Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I will be withholding any additional jokes and attempts of humor at the expense of $lappie until Steve posts more. :)
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mightynine

Well-Known Member
"We want to raise prices to reduce the number of guests in the parks"

It’s amazing how many people didn't - nor still don’t - realize what a lie that is

For anyone who did believe that, I would just ask if they think there is anyone who wants to be the CEO of The Walt Disney Company fielding questions about attendance dropping at their theme parks.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Genie seems to have been designed with the goal of keeping guests in the parks from open to close. That's not how a lot of guests do the parks. It's as if Disney doesn't know their guests at all.

Oops, I slipped back and called us "guests" again, darn it. We are "consumers" now, sorry about that.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Although with the move to 60 minute early entry during the next few weeks, there's going to be a lot of people trying to book LL whilst rope dropping. Could lead to all kinds of hilarity. ;)
Grab a sausage-egg-and-cheese from Starbucks and pop open a collapsible traffic cone in that little circle between Crystal Palace and the Adventureland bridge.

You Are The Magic ™️
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
I love how every step they make to try and make the Disney experience better always makes it more complicated and frustrating.

Standby had slow moving lines but at least they were constant.
Fastpass was basically a virtual queue and it worked ok...the best of Fastpass.
Fastpass+ was just a joke basically needing to book 2 months in advance basically preventing you from swapping your park days while on vacation.
Now Genie+. It gives you bad recommendations, tries to upsell you and, if you do follow it, could have you traversing back and forth through the parks rather than moving at a gradual pace.

I long for the days of waking up on vacation, going to the parks, being able to experience what I wanted to experience, eat where we wanted to eat, and heading back to the resort...without constantly checking wait times and when my reservation window would open and can we do attraction X before needing to rush to our dinner reservation...

Universal isn't perfect by any means but I just got back from a day at Islands of Adventure and Volcano Bay... We walked around the lagoon and hit every attraction along the way. We didn't have Express Pass. We just took our time and didn't feel rushed to get to reservations or attraction times. It was really refreshing.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
For anyone who did believe that, I would just ask if they think there is anyone who wants to be the CEO of The Walt Disney Company fielding questions about attendance dropping at their theme parks.
I’d be really good at that…it’s be a hoot 🦉
I'd imagine they'd gloss over that little tidbit with, "Per-guest spending was up over 42% last quarter! MAGIC!!! Attendence was down 108%"
And that’s all that matters…because it’s about abstract “potential”…not production

anyone see what happened after the fed basically announced austerity this week?

good lord…the brokers turned that into an escorts and blow party
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I love how every step they make to try and make the Disney experience better always makes it more complicated and frustrating.

Standby had slow moving lines but at least they were constant.
Fastpass was basically a virtual queue and it worked ok...the best of Fastpass.
Fastpass+ was just a joke basically needing to book 2 months in advance basically preventing you from swapping your park days while on vacation.
Now Genie+. It gives you bad recommendations, tries to upsell you and, if you do follow it, could have you traversing back and forth through the parks rather than moving at a gradual pace.

I long for the days of waking up on vacation, going to the parks, being able to experience what I wanted to experience, eat where we wanted to eat, and heading back to the resort...without constantly checking wait times and when my reservation window would open and can we do attraction X before needing to rush to our dinner reservation...

Universal isn't perfect by any means but I just got back from a day at Islands of Adventure and Volcano Bay... We walked around the lagoon and hit every attraction along the way. We didn't have Express Pass. We just took our time and didn't feel rushed to get to reservations or attraction times. It was really refreshing.
The Bobs never intended to “make the experience better”

a dead giveaway is forcing the term “experience” on everyone…a marketing/psychological tactic to separate the product cost from the value. Like day 2 of psych and day 1 of marketing.

The goal has been…and continues to be…to recenter the prices to the maximum tolerable levels and then fill the places to record highs…

…and then sell shortcuts to try and get around that.

this isn’t rocket science.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Welp, It'll be an interesting 15 days at the parks. More Genie+ options. I am interested to see how things play out. I can't imagine some rides being an individual cost some of the time and included in G+ at other times. But watching things unfold for the past month, never say never!
WDW MOVING SOME ATTRACTIONS FROM ILL TO G+
As I understand it…genie+ is useless at about 7:01 each morning anyway…

the result is a more pain in the butt, schedule restrictive version of fastpass that has you on the phone the whole day

definition of magic
 

jpinkc

Well-Known Member
As I understand it…genie+ is useless at about 7:01 each morning anyway…

the result is a more pain in the butt, schedule restrictive version of fastpass that has you on the phone the whole day

definition of magic
That was pretty much our experience over Thanksgiving. MK was the ONLY place it felt like it did anything at all, but the system needs major work on return times etc....
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
How has Universal not taken advantage of the Genie+ mess? Simple and effective trolling of WDW--> Buy an Express Pass, go on (nealry) every ride once gauranteed. No 7 a.m. clicking, no messed up meal plans, no planning needed. Just go on a ride when you want. Then show Genie+ as something like this:
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You haven't seen the "Express is free when you stay at..." ads? They're everywhere
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
For anyone who did believe that, I would just ask if they think there is anyone who wants to be the CEO of The Walt Disney Company fielding questions about attendance dropping at their theme parks.

I'd imagine they'd gloss over that little tidbit with, "Per-guest spending was up over 42% last quarter! MAGIC!!! Attendence was down 108%"

They already did this and it completely worked. When attendance started to slide in 2019 due to price increases, they were able to point to a 7% increase in revenue and honestly, that's all the investors care about.

The only scenario where this is an issue, is if attendance AND revenue fall.


I love how every step they make to try and make the Disney experience better always makes it more complicated and frustrating.

It's only confusing and frustrating because they're trying to make everyone happy. We could all go back to having the same experience we had in the 80s and 90s if they would just increase the admission to $300 or $400 a day. They won't do it because they're worried too many people would be priced out.
 

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