Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[G00fyDad]

Well you do know there are drops right now right? Just like there was with FP+

Disney has day of inventory they drop periodically throughout the day (other than MK)

AK drops: 11:01, 1:01, 3:01 and 5:01

HS drops: 9:31, 12:01 and 2:31

Epcot drops: 11:30, 1:30, 3:30

Just kidding

 

[Jeff4272]

And this would be an argument why you don’t want them to be restricted until you enter a park? I’m confused over what we are arguing about.

We are not arguing....

We are explaining the merits of not having to get up prior to 7am every day on vacation

we are talking that MaxPAss worked because you could only book a ride when you got into the park, not everyone at 7am like Genie+

we are debating whther spreading out supply and demand will help with crowds

 

[Jeff4272]

Check ur Genie+ selections in HS on the said times tomorrow and let me know if the inventory changes

check periodically prior to drop times and then right at drop times


I'll bet you a dole whip it does!

 

[flynnibus]

Why not make it midnight the night before? Everyone should be able to stay up until midnight the night before. If you go to bed earlier, set your alarm, wake up at 11:50pm and make your selections and then go back to bed


Hear how stupid that sounds?

Unlike midnight - 7am is not extra ordinary for the majority of the population. 8am and 9am are common opening times at most businesses. Many school children have to leave the house BEFORE 7am. Everyone who has had children has faced being woken before the time they want to get up. Everyone who works for someone else probably has faced that as well. 7am is not egregious.

No one is asking you to get up and muster for inspection. Do some clicking while still in bed, and go back to sleep if you want. Or delegate the task to someone in the group.

 

[G00fyDad]

Check ur Genie+ selections in HS on the said times tomorrow and let me know if the inventory changes

check periodically prior to drop times and then right at drop times


I'll bet you a dole whip it does!

I was just teasing you.

 

[Purduevian]

Check ur Genie+ selections in HS on the said times tomorrow and let me know if the inventory changes

check periodically prior to drop times and then right at drop times


I'll bet you a dole whip it does!

Thrill Data to the Rescue! Claim is extra inventory drops @9:31, 12:01 and 2:31

I will be looking at Today's inventory at https://www.thrill-data.com/waits/park/wdw/hollywood-studios/

	TSMM	ToT	SDD	RnRC	MFSR
Return Time @9:30	12:15pm	10:10am	N/A	12:35pm	9:30am (wow!)
Return Time @9:35	11:45pm	11:35pm	11:10am	12:35pm	9:30am (??)
Return Time @12:00	2:20pm	4:45pm	N/A	4:05pm	N/A
Return Time @12:05	5:15pm	4:30pm	N/A	4:15pm	N/A
Return Time @2:30	6:15pm	7pm	N/A	6:25pm	N/A
Return Time @2:35	7pm	6:50pm	N/A	7:05pm	N/A

 

[Jeff4272]

Yes, your analogy is stupid - because unlike midnight - 7am is not extra ordinary for the majority of the population. 8am and 9am are common opening times at most businesses. Many school children have to leave the house BEFORE 7am. Everyone who has had children has faced being woken before the time they want to get up. Everyone who works for someone else probably has faced that as well. 7am is not egregious.

No one is asking you to get up and muster for inspection. Do some clicking while still in bed, and go back to sleep if you want. Or delegate the task to someone in the group.

Why all the hostility and name calling?

Ha.....I'll bet you $1 you are wrong..........your logic is stupid.........business openings and school are not vacation

and you cannot delegate (ever hear of people with young kids?) You need AT LEAST 2 people (and likely 3) to book Genie+ and Ill at the same time if you want to get the headliner rides.....

 

[Jeff4272]

Yes, your analogy is stupid - because unlike midnight - 7am is not extra ordinary for the majority of the population. 8am and 9am are common opening times at most businesses. Many school children have to leave the house BEFORE 7am. Everyone who has had children has faced being woken before the time they want to get up. Everyone who works for someone else probably has faced that as well. 7am is not egregious.

No one is asking you to get up and muster for inspection. Do some clicking while still in bed, and go back to sleep if you want. Or delegate the task to someone in the group.

Why cant you wake up at midnight if you're the 3% thats already asleep then and make your selections and go back to bed?

your analogy is stupid.....so you think there are more people awake at 7am then there are at midnight?


and yeah, i agree its stupid, just as stupid (or maybe even more stupid) as 7am

 

[flynnibus]

so you think there are more people awake at 7am then there are at midnight?

Yes, and billions of dollars in economic force stand behind the fact. You can die on this 7am hill - but you're still gonna look like a fool for it.

 

[Jeff4272]

Yes, and billions of dollars in economic force stand behind the fact. You can die on this 7am hill - but you're still gonna look like a fool for it.

we will see

 

[pdude81]

Why cant you wake up at midnight if you're the 3% thats already asleep then and make your selections and go back to bed?

your analogy is stupid.....so you think there are more people awake at 7am then there are at midnight?


and yeah, i agree its stupid, just as stupid (or maybe even more stupid) as 7am

 

[JoeCamel]

Why cant you wake up at midnight if you're the 3% thats already asleep then and make your selections and go back to bed?

your analogy is stupid.....so you think there are more people awake at 7am then there are at midnight?


and yeah, i agree its stupid, just as stupid (or maybe even more stupid) as 7am

3%? OK junior
7 am in when rush hour is. MIdnight is not. Working people do go to be long before midnight, old people go to bed long before midnight. It's the reason "prime time" is 8 - 10 in the east, not midnight. Not enough eyeballs compared to morning news or drive time radio.

 

[MrPromey]

Yes, your analogy is stupid - because unlike midnight - 7am is not extra ordinary for the majority of the population. 8am and 9am are common opening times at most businesses. Many school children have to leave the house BEFORE 7am. Everyone who has had children has faced being woken before the time they want to get up. Everyone who works for someone else probably has faced that as well. 7am is not egregious.

No one is asking you to get up and muster for inspection. Do some clicking while still in bed, and go back to sleep if you want. Or delegate the task to someone in the group.

Nothing you're saying is wrong but nothing you're describing sounds much like a vacation, either.

I know it's a case of "well what do you expect?" at this point and I've written essays about how I squarely blame them for letting things get to this point but I know there are no easy solutions, now.

Still, waking up like you're going to work or going to school when being an early riser isn't your thing doesn't sound like the kind of thing a normal person would want to do on vacation to me, even if it's just to navigate a phone and then pass back out.

I'd do it but I've also spent Thanksgiving evenings pre-covid standing in front of stores and dealing with crazy people. I waited for 6 hours on a cold (for Florida) morning in front of a Toys R Us to get someone else a switch when those were originally hard to get and they'd gotten 4 in for sale.

I deal with crap I hate for those I love but it doesn't mean I want to.

With Disney, I'm sure plenty of people are willing to do this every day of their trip to try to give their families a good vacation but what crap that that's what it has come down to and what a wonderful way to start off each of your vacation days, no?

 

[Chi84]

3%? OK junior
7 am in when rush hour is. MIdnight is not. Working people do go to be long before midnight, old people go to bed long before midnight. It's the reason "prime time" is 8 - 10 in the east, not midnight. Not enough eyeballs compared to morning news or drive time radio.

I remember the days when there were things to do at WDW at midnight.

 

[dreday3]

We look at it the way we did back in the paper fastpass days.

Either you make the choice to get up and rope-drop (run for fast passes) or you sleep in and just be happy with what's left. We would do both on those trips and be happy with both choices.

I have to say in October it didn't seem to be the issue it is now? We didn't even buy ILLs for everyday and had a lot of choices for Genie no matter what time we woke up. I guess it's gotten worse.

I would be happy with allowing resort guests to have the option to purchase (because that's how it is now) their ILLs in advance - maybe 30 days. Less pressure while on the actual vacation. Yes, I'm favoring resort guests.

 

[UNCgolf]

I remember the days when there were things to do at WDW at midnight.

I think that's the biggest problem.

If the parks were still open until 11-12 (or later) on many nights, the early timing wouldn't really make a difference. The people who were going to stay late could just grab the later times that early risers didn't want.

With the parks closing so early (relatively speaking), it's basically forcing everyone to be early risers if they want to maximize their day.

 

[Purduevian]

"Americans spend an average of 7 hours and 18 minutes in bed each night. They go to bed at 11:39 p.m., wake up at 7:09 a.m., spend 23.95 minutes snoring, have an average sleep quality of 74.2 percent, and rate their wake-up mood at 57 on a scale of 100"

https://www.sleepcycle.com/sleep-sc...out-americas-healthiest-happiest-best-rested/

Looks like on average, most people are NOT awake at either midnight or 7am lol

 

[Lilofan]

I think that's the biggest problem.

If the parks were still open until 11-12 (or later) on many nights, the early timing wouldn't really make a difference. The people who were going to stay late could just grab the later times that early risers didn't want.

With the parks closing so early (relatively speaking), it's basically forcing everyone to be early risers if they want to maximize their day.

Its not easy at WDW to have early breakfast and or getting to the parks early when your bodyclock is still on CA time but it can be done .

 

[flynnibus]

Nothing you're saying is wrong but nothing you're describing sounds much like a vacation, either.

If the argument was just "I don't want to" - I'd agree with you. But instead the poster keeps trying to make a 3minute task at 7am you can do from your bed sound like his whole family is being dragged out of bed and sent on a death march because they can't sleep in till 10am.

The size of the ask is trivially small. I get someone can say "I don't want to" - but you don't get to build it up to be this monster or exaggerate everything (like 7am is some egregious time) to support your belief.

Still, waking up like you're going to work or going to school when being an early riser isn't your thing doesn't sound like the kind of thing a normal person would want to do on vacation to me, even if it's just to navigate a phone and then pass back out.

But it's not like someone is asking you to make some huge sacrifice. It's also asking you to do something that is not extreme nor abnormal. It's not asking you to do some extreme thing. I mean, I can make the argument that having to walk to the food court to get food isn't something I want to do vs having food in my room. That situation is far more impactful and requires far more of a commitment to get food vs walking over to my pantry and getting some food. But know what, everyone accepts that going to a food court is a task that is not unreasonable.

Doing a 3min task on your phone (from anywhere) at 7am is not a huge ask. 7am is not considered extreme - most people are used to functioning at that time if they need to. "I don't want to"? Ok, but if you had to, don't ask like I'm asking you to cut your arm off.

With Disney, I'm sure plenty of people are willing to do this every day of their trip to try to give their families a good vacation but what crap that that's what it has come down to and what a wonderful way to start off each of your vacation days, no?

In my view - they shouldn't have the early window at all.

 

[Chi84]

If the argument was just "I don't want to" - I'd agree with you. But instead the poster keeps trying to make a 3minute task at 7am you can do from your bed sound like his whole family is being dragged out of bed and sent on a death march because they can't sleep in till 10am.

That's exactly how the people who hated FP+ made it sound when you had to get up early - once, and not in the midst of your vacation - to make your choices. People always make the things they don't want to do sound like a death march.