Splash4eva
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Is this Bob Iger’s burner account?Mid June with temps pushing 100 degrees is not an accurate barometer of the average Disney day.
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Is this Bob Iger’s burner account?Mid June with temps pushing 100 degrees is not an accurate barometer of the average Disney day.
I’m not sure I understand the idea that “you’ll only be able to get one Tier 1 ride” with the new system - it should be exactly the same day of availability for additional Tier 1 as G+. Thought exercise: assuming that everyone buying G+ used it exclusively to get what is a Tier 1 ride at 7am. The availability for a second Tier 1 ride at 9am or after using the first LL would be exactly the same availability as what would be available to book with the new system day of after using one of the 3 pre-books.
The lack of re-rides should I think make a big difference with availability (as well as not everyone purchasing) compared to FP+ day of availability. Though admittedly countered by taking the ILL rides out of the pool.
But the day of availability would be the same as with G+. What would be less available is day of spots for Tier 2 (“lesser”) rides which should be easy to get regardless. And everyone purchasing would have two of them regardless.
Inventory drops have been quite accurate since inception im sure Disney would continue to do so with the nee system… just a question of do the times stay the same or get adjusted and what happens at MK when Tiana goes liveI'm far from an expert on Genie+ as I've never come close to needing it with how dead it's been when we have gone, but, wasn't it if I sign up at 7am, I could get Remy at 9:00, Frozen at 4:00, and Soarin at 6:00? Now, I get to plan 3 days out, but I get Remy at 9:00, then I need to take like the Seas at 10:00 and Figment at 11:00. And now, everyone else buying is doing the same thing, meaning by the time 9:15 rolls around and I've used Remy up, all the LL for Frozen and Soarin are gone (because everyone else needed to select Tier 1's as well).
The system alocates inventory for parties, not individuals. Any party up to 12 should see the exact same availability as any other.While technically true I think a key thing here is also party size. For a smaller party size, it’s just way easier to check and find things that open up. I tend to travel with a large group (7-9 people) and it is harder to get LLs that open up for everyone because there’s just not that block all together available ( and they can often disappear between seeing it and confirming).
That’s another reason I prefer pre-booking while more availability overall exists to choose from.
I don't know for sure but if it is like what they have done in the past each leg of your split stay is its own trip. So, you should be able to book one week out from your check in day for each segment. At least that is how FP+ worked.Though I'm not sure anyone would have the answer to this but what happens to someone who's doing a split stay between a few on-site resorts. I'm going in November and my arrival day is at the Dolphin, then I'm switching to Old Key West 4 for 3 nights then Boulder Ridge for 5 nights. I have a 14 day ticket that starts the day I arrive on November 7th. Will I be able to set up all of my fast passes 1 week prior to my arrival at the Dolphin through the full 14 day ticket? All three resorts are linked to mde.
That's weird, I don't ever remember it working like that for fast pass. The only part I ever remember it doing that was when you were booking dining reservations. Just wasn't sure if anything officially was put out since a lot of what they're doing here is not exactly the way fast plus worked prior to covid. Guess I'll just have to wait and see what happensI don't know for sure but if it is like what they have done in the past each leg of your split stay is its own trip. So, you should be able to book one week out from your check in day for each segment. At least that is how FP+ worked.
You're right. It's not better, other than the ability to potentially spend a little less time staring at your phone. You're still paying handsomely for something that used to be free, AND that used to offer access to more (and more popular) attractions.People keep talking about how this is better than Genie+ and I don't see it. With Genie+, you only could book one LL at a time. Which helped with availability. Now you are back to people booking 3 before the day starts, which by the time you get to your 4th it's not going to leave much left.
I'm sorry but I can't see paying an extra $800 for 3-4 rides. If I'm paying for shorter waits I expect to be able to use it for every attraction each day.
I could be misremembering. I know we stopped doing split stays during the FP+ years due to not being able to get reservations. In my memory that was for FP+ and dinning but it could have just been dining.That's weird, I don't ever remember it working like that for fast pass. The only part I ever remember it doing that was when you were booking dining reservations. Just wasn't sure if anything officially was put out since a lot of what they're doing here is not exactly the way fast plus worked prior to covid. Yes I'll just have to wait and see what happens
I'd forgotten about that whole book a campsite for a night mess. Good times.I want to say FP+ was related to ticket length for multi day ticket holders not the length of stay, as booking cheap throwaway rooms for one night to book used to be a thing. Dining was definitely the length of stay though.
I think starting in January you must cancel your throwaway room 8 days in advance to get a full refund. So yes campsites will be in demand again as they are the cheapest way to extend your stay. Currently it's 5 days in advance so there's still a bit of a needle eye to squeeze through. They may go back to manually checking for cancellation abuse like they did under FP+.I'd forgotten about that whole book a campsite for a night mess. Good times.
You could book everything across linked split stays before the pandemic but can’t any longer.I could be misremembering. I know we stopped doing split stays during the FP+ years due to not being able to get reservations. In my memory that was for FP+ and dinning but it could have just been dining.
I’m convinced that the average international visitor wanders into the park without any real idea of how to use the LL system. Maybe they purchase genie+ and try to muddle through it, having no real idea how to work the 2 hour countdown rule, stacking, etc. Do they get a headliner **now**? They probably don’t realize they should be making their selections right at 7. The type of people who post on this forum are not the “average” international visitor.
That is not correct from what I've heard.Another thing (correct me if I'm wrong) I remember back during the fast past plus days when the rides were tiered then too, You booked 1 tier one and 2 tiered two rides. I do remember you had to use all 3 rides before you were allowed to book another and obviously Disney is changing that with this new system. But I'm almost positive you will not be allowed to book another tier one until you use your first tier one ride like it was prior to covid. Since with the new system it looks like you'll be able to book another ride the minute you use your first fp, do we honestly think we will be able to book something like Aladdin's Magic Carpets at 9 AM so that you can quickly book an additional tier one? So many people new to this (and many of the groups I belong to) assume they're gonna book a couple of quick throw away rides at the beginning so they can stack on multiple tier one rides.
welcome back the 7am day of lottery scrambleThat is not correct from what I've heard.
Day off, there are no Groups. This means at 7 am, you can modify Group 2s to Group 1s if availability is present. The groups are for pre-planning only.
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