Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[Vegas Disney Fan]

yes, but at least they aren't paying extra or feeling they have to pay extra that day and less % taken from the LL should make standby lines at least move more (even if same time will feel more productive) and people who pay will use more on the bigger rides so really should make lines at C and D tickets flow better, etc

And then the people that are willing to pay, should be shorter LL lines and more availability for LL so feel like gettig more for their money - at least my thinking ... like at Universal, it costs a lot more but if you get it you feel like you get more out of it

The longer lines at the “lessor” rides is my biggest complaint with Genie. We all expect lines at the E tickets but Genie has created lines that never used to exist. The Little Mermaid (in DCA) was previously a 10 minute wait (or less) until they put Genie on it, now it’s 20-30 and often longer. Monsters Inc was usually 5-15 minutes before Genie, now it’s often over 45. Genie has ruined the walk on rides that used to make the occasional long line bearable.

Had they gone with just ILLs on the biggest rides it would make sense but Genie is purely a money grab, it’s not necessary on most of the rides they’ve put it on but they had to put it on those rides to justify the price they are charging.

 

[DCBaker]

Genie+ at Disney's Animal Kingdom has sold out.

 

[JD80]

Oh wow.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Genie+ at Disney's Animal Kingdom has sold out.

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Genie+ is obviously a HUGE SUCCESS and everyone loves it

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Dang, more than a 4.5 hour wait for FoP ... And even more surprising, 25 min wait for TriceratopSpin

 

[SamusAranX]

Good lord that FoP wait time.

But no, no expanded capacity needed folks. Move along folks

 

[LSLS]

Dang, more than a 4.5 hour wait for FoP ... And even more surprising, 25 min wait for TriceratopSpin

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Makes you wonder how everyone got reservations and they didn't hit capacity.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

How many of the “first time visitors” who came to WDW this week to pay an extra $160 per day for a family of four to ride two rides at HS and spend the rest of the day in hours long lines do we think are every coming back again?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Good lord that FoP wait time.

But no, no expanded capacity needed folks. Move along folks

No expanded capacity + Genie+ = 280 minute standby for FOP.

 

[surfsupdon]

Weren’t Park Passes supposed to spread the masses out?

I’m still bitter we need to make park pass reservations moving forward as a group and Disney charges us $1 to make them for a system that isn’t even needed.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Weren’t Park Passes supposed to spread the masses out?

I’m still bitter we need to make park pass reservations moving forward as a group and Disney charges us $1 to make them for a system that isn’t even needed.

I think Park Pass Reservations was a test.

Just like FastPass was free and now we pay, some day, I predict we will PAY for Park Pass Reservations.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I think Park Pass Reservations was a test.

Just like FastPass was free and now we pay, some day, I predict we will PAY for Park Pass Reservations.

I thought they might do something like that with annual passes, and more likely at Disneyland than WDW, but where your pass grants you access to book days and each day has a cost - maybe some are free but then like if you want to go on NYE if is $40 or something

 

[mightynine]

Genie+ at Disney's Animal Kingdom has sold out.

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Disney Parks, Products & Experiences accountants when thinking about their Q4 numbers:

 

[nickys]

First DHS, then AK…

It couldn’t be a way to market the “new , improved” system to guests, could it???

 

[DCBaker]

Genie+ at Disney's Hollywood Studios/Multiple Parks has already sold out.

 

[mattpeto]

Genie+ at Disney's Hollywood Studios/Multiple Parks has already sold out.

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Just looking at current return windows:

MMRR: +4 hours
MFSR: +7 hours
RnRC: +7 hours
SDD: N/A
ToT: +3.5 hours

By restricting more Genie+ guests, guests who have DHS Genie+ should be able to get a valuable 2nd and 3rd LL at the 3rd standard draw (12:30 pm).

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Obviously an imperfect system but am glad they aren't just raising the # they sell and instead letting it sell out so those that buy it can get some use out of it

More reminder to just not visit this week though lol

(At least for a "regular" trip - it like an extra trip where just going for experience and not rides, then that is one thing)

 

[monothingie]

Just looking at current return windows:

MMRR: +4 hours
MFSR: +7 hours
RnRC: +7 hours
SDD: N/A
ToT: +3.5 hours

By restricting more Genie+ guests, guests who have DHS Genie+ should be able to get a valuable 2nd and 3rd LL at the 3rd standard draw (12:30 pm).

Possible that they have progressively lowered the G+ allocation due to guest complaints about not being able to redeem LL returns due to the large number of purchases. Also possible that they have also spread out return times as to improve the balance between LL and Standby admissions at queue merge points, because with so many G+ purchases, standby times just became too onerous because the ratio of LL to Standby admissions went way out of spec.

 

[mattpeto]

Obviously an imperfect system but am glad they aren't just raising the # they sell and instead letting it sell out so those that buy it can get some use out of it

More reminder to just not visit this week though lol

(At least for a "regular" trip - it like an extra trip where just going for experience and not rides, then that is one thing)

For many parents it's either this week or the summer.

 

[monothingie]

I'm sure keeping guests in the park because popular attractions are still running to clear out queues for an extra hour or two or more after close isn't a desirable thing.