Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Not for a second…Do you think this was really just about selling more G+ at lower prices to people in Epcot and AK?
This is a badly worded attempt to Raise the ceiling by dragging the floor up.
Not for a second…Do you think this was really just about selling more G+ at lower prices to people in Epcot and AK?
BingoNot for a second…
This is a badly worded attempt to Raise the ceiling by dragging the floor up.
Okay, there is no discussion for us to have, then.I'm not 100% sure because his hasn't been implemented yet. But I think it's possible because they will still be making more money this way by selling more. Plus it will help push people to those parks.
Look at the brief history of G+ pricing and tell me how long you expect that party to last?They will make more money now by offering cheaper options for Epcot and AK as few people buy it currently for those parks. Combine that with the endless and ridiculous chase of being a growth company and worshipping at the alter of quarterlies, yes, more money now is a good thing and a good reason to do it.
Now, having said that, there is a zero percent chance they don't raise prices down the line but that was going to happen no matter what because again, got to beat that y/y comp or you are punished by the street.
With that in mind, why not take the win with more options and cheaper ones at that if you happen to be someone who uses G+ at those parks?
Yeah, so the price to get this at just AK on a slow day will be only a few dollars more than the price this thing launched at for property-wide access every day less than two years ago.Bear in mind, when this was originally announced it was $15 a day with maybe a LL for a high demand attraction such as GotG or RotR. Beginning of this thread, some said it was reasonable, in defense of it being “unlimited” and despite it no longer being a free add on.
Now some are “defending” the same 4 park product being at close to double the price, which is probably going to go up on peak days, plus your LL for the high demand ones unless you want that 2 hour wait for Mine Train.
The longer you continue to say “this is fine” and pay up, the more it’s gonna happen.
This is not crowd control…that has been the standard excuse for everything done during the reign of Iger.I'm not 100% sure because his hasn't been implemented yet. But I think it's possible because they will still be making more money this way by selling more. Plus it will help push people to those parks.
I get it and I think I was in a similar place when I first read about it.It's only a win for those who don't hop. Or hop but only plan to use Genie + at one park. It's a loss for people who hopped and used Genie + at both parks when Epcot and AK are involved.
The rest of you can pay cheaper genie prices for DHS, AK and Epcot. Hoppers have to purchase the all 4 pass on top of paying for hopping unless we specifically know what park we want to hop to. And if we will use Genie +.
Previously, we all paid the same. And we got to use it at 2 parks because we already paid for hopping!!!
Gah!
You do realize that the people making these decisions and coming up with these schemes have no understanding that they are only making guests hate this even more.Bob just doesn’t get it…nobody wants his product right now…and he’s trying to sell to his stock lords that’s NOT the case
Spoken like a frog in a pot on a stove.I get it and I think I was in a similar place when I first read about it.
I think what started to change my mind was realizing that people can essentially choose to continue to use the system as it is now by just purchasing the all-park pass on days they want G+. If someone wants to engage with it further and try to min/max spending, they can.
I am keenly aware that I may well end up back here eating these words down the line but for now, as currently presented, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
Yeah difference is they can call that “premium” and Jack the priceI get it and I think I was in a similar place when I first read about it.
I think what started to change my mind was realizing that people can essentially choose to continue to use the system as it is now by just purchasing the all-park pass on days they want G+. If someone wants to engage with it further and try to min/max spending, they can.
I am keenly aware that I may well end up back here eating these words down the line but for now, as currently presented, it doesn't seem that bad to me.
You aren't wrong and I don't entirely disagree but something like this was going to happen eventually. There was no chance they weren't going to try to further monetize this and they couldn't ignore all the complaints from people who purchased G+ for AK or EPCOT.Look at the brief history of G+ pricing and tell me how long you expect that party to last?
Got your reservations in to be there before the holidays this year?
This change removes most of the friction that prevented them from charging more aggressively for it than they already were.
Ask yourself- why now? Why so suddenly? Why on that date? And why when they’ve been taking drastic measures to get people in the parks?
Next earnings call is Aug 8. I’m sure the new guy will be be able to deftly spin those numbers.
Once again, that's not the question.
Someone who plans to have dinner at a resort and then hop to a second park is NOT going to have any issues or confusion with this system. They're going to buy the "all parks" option when they buy Genie+ in the first place, and it's going to work just like it does now.
We're ONLY talking about the people who do not plan to park hop so they buy a one-park Genie+, but then decide to park hop at the last minute. THAT is what I'm saying is rare.
Oh my God.
IT DOESN'T MATTER which park you picked of DHS or Epcot. In the morning, you would have bought the "all parks" Genie+ and you'd be covered.
It looks like @TheMaxRebo is the only one who doesn't have a hard time understanding this.
Well, on the other hand, if they don't make the changes they just annouced your only choice would have been the most expensive, all park option we have now.
This gives you the option if you do know to maybe save some money.
The answer to #4 will likely depend on if you have a 1-park-per-day ticket or park hopper tickets.People now need to decide by 7 AM:
1. if they want an ILL,
2. Do they want a VQ,
3. Do they want G+, and now
4. If yes to #3, do they want a single park or multi-park?
Not necessarily.Yeah difference is they can call that “premium” and Jack the price
We really need to have a mandatory consumer psychology class around here
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