I don't think so, I think that paint was done more recent. It was repainted after the Avengers wrap, if I recall correctly. That was about 5 years ago though, so if it's been like that for 5 years, that's sad... :S
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Let's Talk Monorails...
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lazyboy97o
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The catwalks are not accessible and are for emergency egress. The accessibility feature is that the floor of the train and station are level so there is no need for a ramp like at Walt Disney World.
Captain Barbossa
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If I had a dollar for every time a monorail problem thread was started. I don't mind it though. I enjoy talking about the monorail.
Don't hate, I've not poked fun at the monorail in a while, LOL!!!
GlassHalfFull
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I was told by a few disney employees a few weeks ago, that NOT only are they not going to replace them until driverless is running well, but once driverless is going well there is a strong sense that they will allow people to sit in the front/back cars again... that would be my favorite news of the last 10 years
Whether they phase in new monorails, or refurb the current ones for all of this is not clear at this time per the people I talked to. But a big push to bring that front/back cab being open to public is being attempted I've been told.
Whether they phase in new monorails, or refurb the current ones for all of this is not clear at this time per the people I talked to. But a big push to bring that front/back cab being open to public is being attempted I've been told.
Bender123
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Have you been on a New York Subway? Not exactly the magical experience we expect from paying several hundred dollars a night...
The monorails are already well past their expected life span.
ShoalFox
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Trust me, I've been on the subway plenty of times
matt9112
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I can't deal with y'all lolCovfefe is code for solving the world's problems
Honestly though, I know the trains won't be completely driverless, moreso automated. With this in play, there's more safety to allow guests in the front.
ShoalFox
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Matching uniform color to the train?
That was my idea. Either the rainbow style with all 12 colors in a blended band, or a solid style in all 12 colors.
But you don't have to have the uniform that matches the train, you could choose your favorite color. They'd all be identical with just different colors.
Beacon Joe
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They ought to bring in the Japanese to overhaul the system:
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Timon
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Want to dream a little -
My Mark VIII (Innovia 200) prototype:
A much bigger dream coming true:
Bombardier Innovia 300:
Currently under construction in Sao Paulo, Brazil
7 Cars, 1000 passengers, Walk thru design
1st 2 station demo is open, Phase 1 to open 8 more stations by end of 2018
● Line 17 - 26km 18 stations
● Beam .690mm (27.2”)
● 750vdc
● 48,000 per hr per direction (7 cars) 500,000 per day
● 54 7 car trains / 378 cars / 50.2m long / 3.1m wide
● Light Load: 623 Passengers (89 per car)(17 seated per car)(7 car train)
● Max Load: 1002 Passengers (143 per car)(17 seated per car)(7 car train)
● Max Speed 90kmh(56 mpg), normal 80kmh(45 mpg)
● Walk thru design
● Open visual end design
● Fully Automated (CITYFLO 650)
● Train coupling
Notice escape catwalk between tracks:
New trains are arriving, so far about 20
Walk thru train:
No driver, great view (Prototype picture)
Well if Disney wanted to do Monorails they can, the people of Sao Paulo are getting a big one
My Mark VIII (Innovia 200) prototype:
A much bigger dream coming true:
Bombardier Innovia 300:
Currently under construction in Sao Paulo, Brazil
1st 2 station demo is open, Phase 1 to open 8 more stations by end of 2018
● Line 17 - 26km 18 stations
● Beam .690mm (27.2”)
● 750vdc
● 48,000 per hr per direction (7 cars) 500,000 per day
● 54 7 car trains / 378 cars / 50.2m long / 3.1m wide
● Light Load: 623 Passengers (89 per car)(17 seated per car)(7 car train)
● Max Load: 1002 Passengers (143 per car)(17 seated per car)(7 car train)
● Max Speed 90kmh(56 mpg), normal 80kmh(45 mpg)
● Walk thru design
● Open visual end design
● Fully Automated (CITYFLO 650)
● Train coupling
Notice escape catwalk between tracks:
New trains are arriving, so far about 20
Walk thru train:
No driver, great view (Prototype picture)
Well if Disney wanted to do Monorails they can, the people of Sao Paulo are getting a big one
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Sadly, I must interject. These trains you're loving on are far too large for the WDW system. The closest thing relatable would be the Las Vegas system, built off of the size of WDWs system.
I think they want to keep the driver's cab. Even though they won't do much, they'll initiate transit, doors, and watch as a safety measure.
While those full walkthrough trains look very cool, the size constraints don't allow for really any way of doing that. Not walkthrough anyways.
If you look at my Mark VIII plans, I mentioned half walls, dunno if it'll work.
Even if the new trains are not built by Bombardier, I'm sure the new ones will come with a Disney look and style.
Timon
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1. My Mark VIII / Innovia 200 is an existing Bombardier design in the WDW/Vegas class size. With that, the chassis limits you to no walk-thru and you have to have a nose cabin just to look right. FYI: The Vegas cabin happens to be filled with gear and industrial looking control panel.
2. My point about Sao Paulo is monorails can be built if you want them. Money wise they cost more than ground rail transport, less than elevated rail or subway. If can't buy a swath of land to lay tracks you either elevate or dig. Monorail track is quickly constructed compared to elevated rail and cheaper.
3. Bombardier is a major builder of all tracked and flying transport, they have a lot of experience. Most of the past issues with Disney is rooted in Disney's micro managing "we know better than you" practices. Disney could order up a set of new trains tomorrow and only have to provide a signed check and drawings of how it should look.
Oh and heavens sake buy one of these, to keep them clean:
2. My point about Sao Paulo is monorails can be built if you want them. Money wise they cost more than ground rail transport, less than elevated rail or subway. If can't buy a swath of land to lay tracks you either elevate or dig. Monorail track is quickly constructed compared to elevated rail and cheaper.
3. Bombardier is a major builder of all tracked and flying transport, they have a lot of experience. Most of the past issues with Disney is rooted in Disney's micro managing "we know better than you" practices. Disney could order up a set of new trains tomorrow and only have to provide a signed check and drawings of how it should look.
Oh and heavens sake buy one of these, to keep them clean: