LETS FIX WDW

mouse_luv

Well-Known Member
I would have the RFID bracelet thingies keep track of whenever you enter the bathroom. After a certain number of entries in a day (3 if you're off property, 5 if you're on) you would be unable to flush, thus conserving water. Now, you may be entering a bathroom from time to time without using a potty, so there would be cameras scattered about recording. Since your RFID chip would record the time you entered the bathroom (say those tucked away behind Pirates of the Caribbean) you could call one of the bathroom monitors and say, "I know I'm at my potty usage limit, but if you watch the recording of my 9:53 AM entry into bathroom such and such you will see that I did not do any flushing of significance. I'm the guy in the blue blazer and the festive holiday tie." They could then credit your potty usage account with a credit re-enabling you to flush. Simple really. It would fix the parks by conserving water, forcing people to think before engaging in biological functions, and create shorter lines making "tinkle time" a more efficient experience for all.


Please tell me this is a joke. This would not go over well with those of us that have illnesses that make us use the bathroom a lot.
 

rucifee

Well-Known Member
1. No. More. Uncharged. Parties.
2. HS is about 15 years late on a reboot. Reboot it, completely.
3. Epcot is about 15 years late on a reboot. Reboot it, completely.
4. All things Frozen need to die a fiery death.
5. Bring back the variety, I strongly dislike that nearly every store has 90% of the same thing, and 10% unique goods.
6. Eisner-esque innovation needs to come back! (Movie rides, Architecture, emphasis on families)
 
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MaryJaneP

Well-Known Member
"LETS" is a new entity that is coming up with all sorts of positive changes planned for all of WDW. Thus it is appropriate to title the thread "LETS FIX WDW". Whether you believe anything will actually be done is an entirely different thread. We are very interested to hear what "LETS" has planned.
 

Miss Heinous

Well-Known Member
1. No. More. Uncharged. Parties.
2. HS is about 15 years late on a reboot. Reboot it, completely.
3. Is about 15 years late on a reboot. Reboot it, completely.
4. All things Frozen need to die a fiery death.
5. Bring back the variety, I strongly dislike that nearly every store has 90% of the same thing, and 10% unique goods.
6. Eisner-esque innovation needs to come back! (Movie rides, Architecture, emphasis on families)
I'm going to say this once... FROZEN IS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THERE IS A MASSIVE DEMAND FOR IT. GET. OVER. IT.
They did the same thing for Lion King in the 90's and there is 1,000,000x more Mickey crap than Frozen I assure you.
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
What's wrong with Epcot? That's my favorite place on Earth, and the theme park I go to more often than any of the other Disney parks, Universal parks, or Sea World each year. (I know, I go through my Theme Park Journal every New Year's Eve and take score.) There are things I would change, mind you, like France needs an updated film, but not the whole park.
There's a thing or two wrong. :cautious:
 

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
4. All things Frozen need to die a fiery death.
You know, in some threads, I find your approach to, er, debate to be a bit much. But I gotta say, I'm with you on this one.

And, yes, I understand WHY Frozen is everywhere. Doesn't mean I have to think it's what should be there.

I will say, though, that at our recent visit last month it seemed less pronounced than it did during our visit last year, so maybe it's improving?
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Oh for the love of all that is holy, will you PLEASE give your endless "Let's raise the prices!!" campaign a freaking rest. We get it. You are well off. Money is no object. You want the prices sky high so that only you and your financially elite comrades can enjoy the park and the rest of us scum can just play in traffic instead. But the whole thing got incredibly tiresome about the 250th time you advocated for this. Enough already. Sheesh.
You mad or something, bro? Although I do believe increased prices can address some issues, that was only a small part of my post.

You're clearly looking for a reason to get upset.

I'm not just indiscriminately spouting off about being "well off" or telling you I'm rich. I'm discussing a point and offering one possible solution to address the issue. Not only am I right on, Disney agrees with me and is even taking steps to introduce dynamic pricing to implement exactly what I'm preaching.
 

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
You mad or something, bro? Although I do believe increased prices can address some issues, that was only a small part of my post.

You're clearly looking for a reason to get upset.

I'm not just indiscriminately spouting off about being "well off" or telling you I'm rich. I'm discussing a point and offering one possible solution to address the issue. Not only am I right on, Disney agrees with me and is even taking steps to introduce dynamic pricing to implement exactly what I'm preaching.
Would you be okay with keeping prices as-is, or heck maybe even reducing them, *if* Disney invested the resources into significant enough park expansions to handle the capacity problem? Like, what if they actually opened a fifth park?
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Would you be okay with keeping prices as-is, or heck maybe even reducing them, *if* Disney invested the resources into significant enough park expansions to handle the capacity problem? Like, what if they actually opened a fifth park?
I don't agree with the premise of opening a 5th park only because there are so many areas of improvement and expansion needed at the current parks, particularly EPCOT.

That said, my motivation for increased pricing across the board is primarily based upon controlling crowds. Disney is simply too cheap to deter people from going. I'd also vote for limiting outside Disney property guests or significantly reducing their access.

I also understand this isn't going to happen if it will affect the bottom line, so I'm willing to pay double to decrease crowds by say, 30%.

Disney needs to raise prices, but also reduce the allowed guests because I doubt they'd increase prices enough to actually deter enough people. They have been raising prices, but still draw record crowds.

I think $160 for a one day pass might be a start, along with increased hotel, food, and drink prices.
 

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
I don't agree with the premise of opening a 5th park only because there are so many areas of improvement and expansion needed at the current parks, particularly EPCOT.
I agree to a point. However, Epcot is the only park I can think of at the moment -- not counting the water parks, of course -- that hasn't either seen expansion or is headed for expansion. We have had the New Fantasyland expansion at Magic Kingdom, we've got the massive Star Wars and Toy Story expansions coming to Hollywood Studios, and we've got Avatar coming to Animal Kingdom. That is a *lot* that they've put into updating and expanding the current parks. Even if I think it should have come sooner and been completed faster (which I do), at least it's happening.

Epcot does need a lot of love, but I'm not sure what's realistic expansion-wise at the other three parks given that. Which is why I suggested a fifth park. Which, BTW, I happen to think will happen at some point, but I'm not sure when.

That said, my motivation for increased pricing across the board is primarily based upon controlling crowds. Disney is simply too cheap to deter people from going. I'd also vote for limiting outside Disney property guests or significantly reducing their access.

I also understand this isn't going to happen if it will affect the bottom line, so I'm willing to pay double to decrease crowds by say, 30%.

Disney needs to raise prices, but also reduce the allowed guests because I doubt they'd increase prices enough to actually deter enough people. They have been raising prices, but still draw record crowds.

I think $160 for a one day pass might be a start, along with increased hotel, food, and drink prices.
I understand your premise. And, certainly, the crowds we saw last month when we were there during a traditionally "off peak" time make me believe they have capacity issues. But I still favor adding capacity rather than raising prices. Walt Disney World is already a luxury item, outside the realm of financial viability for many, as it is. To further put it out of reach of the average American family -- and pardon me for falling back on invoking Walt -- seems like something Walt Disney would have been aghast at. I think he'd much rather have seen his company invest and expand enough to accommodate the people, rather than working on ways to keep more people out.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
I don't agree with the premise of opening a 5th park only because there are so many areas of improvement and expansion needed at the current parks, particularly EPCOT.

That said, my motivation for increased pricing across the board is primarily based upon controlling crowds. Disney is simply too cheap to deter people from going. I'd also vote for limiting outside Disney property guests or significantly reducing their access.

I also understand this isn't going to happen if it will affect the bottom line, so I'm willing to pay double to decrease crowds by say, 30%.

Disney needs to raise prices, but also reduce the allowed guests because I doubt they'd increase prices enough to actually deter enough people. They have been raising prices, but still draw record crowds.

I think $160 for a one day pass might be a start, along with increased hotel, food, and drink prices.
I agree, fix the existing parks before anything else. That goes for the two water parks. Another I wish would go away, The free dining plan.
 

rucifee

Well-Known Member
I'm going to say this once... FROZEN IS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THERE IS A MASSIVE DEMAND FOR IT. GET. OVER. IT.
They did the same thing for Lion King in the 90's and there is 1,000,000x more Mickey crap than Frozen I assure you.

Nope, but thanks for yelling. It almost had me convinced. LMAO
 

rucifee

Well-Known Member
You know, in some threads, I find your approach to, er, debate to be a bit much. But I gotta say, I'm with you on this one.

And, yes, I understand WHY Frozen is everywhere. Doesn't mean I have to think it's what should be there.

I will say, though, that at our recent visit last month it seemed less pronounced than it did during our visit last year, so maybe it's improving?

Yeah, it seems to be slowly fading, thank goodness.
 

theRIOT

Active Member
What's wrong with Epcot? That's my favorite place on Earth, and the theme park I go to more often than any of the other Disney parks, Universal parks, or Sea World each year. (I know, I go through my Theme Park Journal every New Year's Eve and take score.) There are things I would change, mind you, like France needs an updated film, but not the whole park.

I love EPCOT just about more than life itself (look at my avatar, sweet right?), but let's be honest. Right now it's a shell of what it used to be. So think of how much you love it now and times that by 2. It has the most potential but it's not living up to it right now.
It needs direction. It deserves better.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
What's wrong with Epcot? That's my favorite place on Earth, and the theme park I go to more often than any of the other Disney parks, Universal parks, or Sea World each year. (I know, I go through my Theme Park Journal every New Year's Eve and take score.) There are things I would change, mind you, like France needs an updated film, but not the whole park.

Let's see....
Universe of Energy has major problems
Wonders of Life a SBNO Festival (If you want to call it that) Pavillion
Journey Into Imagination...Do we need to say a reason..
Circle Visions to HD Projections
Since they are making World Showcase New Fantasyland 2:The Tie-in's Continue Let's just toss the DLP Ratatouille Ride to the Left of France and expand it...
Ratatouille-Ride-La-Place-De-Remy.jpg
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
I would have the RFID bracelet thingies keep track of whenever you enter the bathroom. After a certain number of entries in a day (3 if you're off property, 5 if you're on) you would be unable to flush, thus conserving water. Now, you may be entering a bathroom from time to time without using a potty, so there would be cameras scattered about recording. Since your RFID chip would record the time you entered the bathroom (say those tucked away behind Pirates of the Caribbean) you could call one of the bathroom monitors and say, "I know I'm at my potty usage limit, but if you watch the recording of my 9:53 AM entry into bathroom such and such you will see that I did not do any flushing of significance. I'm the guy in the blue blazer and the festive holiday tie." They could then credit your potty usage account with a credit re-enabling you to flush. Simple really. It would fix the parks by conserving water, forcing people to think before engaging in biological functions, and create shorter lines making "tinkle time" a more efficient experience for all.

Smart. In fact, I like this idea so much, I'll even let TDO have access to the cameras I've already installed in the stalls. I'm a generous guy that way.
 

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