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Len Testa - “Disney positions itself as the all-American vacation. The irony is that most Americans can’t afford it.”

Splash4eva

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That’s all I’m saying

The biggest threat to travel and leisure is a disruption to consumer confidence in the “real world”. It’s always the first/easiest thing to cut.

The fact they’ve kinda yo yo and never gotten back to their pre 2020 numbers in Orlando is a huge warning sign. People dismiss that far too easily
Covid made a ton of people especially pixie dusters realize there are other places to go other than disney…
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
That was 2 days ago…

The only “boycott” going on is the prices are too high. Self inflicted wounds.

I’ve said it 1000 times and apparently it will take more: this issue is the price and driving customers away
Is it really or is it more to do with a diminished product shuttered attractions less entertainment & hours so on and so forth? If they execute these current projects flawlessly and that is a BIG IF numbers will come back like never before
 

wannabeBelle

Well-Known Member
Is it really or is it more to do with a diminished product shuttered attractions less entertainment & hours so on and so forth? If they execute these current projects flawlessly and that is a BIG IF numbers will come back like never before
Exactly so. Problem is that Disney does not have a great track record of replacing great attractions with attractions that are different to be sure but of equal or greater value. There are some but many more of the once that flopped. One of the ones that hurt most for me was the termination of Off Kilter. The next act placed on that stage was a carnival sideshow of lumberjacks that someone literlally found on the side of Route 192. Not from Canada, but from Florida. Granted most of Off Kilter wasnt from Canada either but they honored the cuture and music of Canada with their art. The lumberjacks were an insult. They did get replaced after a short stint by a rotating lineup of bands who are actually from Canada. I have seen a few and while they are good, they didnt connect with me the way Off Kilter did. I'm sure that many of the members here can name other examples of a downgrade in the offerings. Marie
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Covid made a ton of people especially pixie dusters realize there are other places to go other than disney…
I will call that effect the “confluence of stupidity”

Bob and Bob completely misplayed it.

The took pent up travel and free money as a greenlight to try to charge increasing retail prices to everyone in 2022…worked for a little bit. But knowing the planning Windows…it crashed behind the scenes HARD almost immediately. What you describe is the lagging response: people started to say “no thanks” ever since…

Because they came off like “Covid profiteers”…an excuse to implement ill advised concepts they had kicked around long before…

Cause and effect
 
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Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
I will call that effect the “confluence of stupidity”

Bob and Bob completely misplayed it.

The took pent up travel and free money as a greenlight to try to charge increasing retail prices to everyone in 2022…worked for a little bit. But knowing the planning Windows…it crashed behind the scenes HARD almost immediately. What you describe is the lagging response: people started to said no thanks ever since…

Because they came off like “Covid profiteers”…an excuse to implement ill advised concepts they had kicked around long before…

Cause and effect
Whats crazy is of they would have ramped up expansion during this “reset” it would have worked marvelously
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
Bob never understood that you build when there’s a lull…he’s an idiot

Mr tech mogul
Its actually sad because he literally has 3 of the most iconic IP’s & somehow has found a way to F it or at bare minimum barely capitalizing on it. People will pay and pay mightily. For some reason he is afraid if they expand and offer longer hours that will stop and its anything but. People will still buy ILL. People will still pay to skip lines. More people will actually stay on property if you reoffer some of these “free”
Perks that im confident were already baked into the price they were charging. ME to keep peoplein the bubble was the dumbest cut. EMH to only Deluxe? So many dumb decisions
 

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