Le Cell already full

[AEfx]

Hey, I make 2 reservations all the time, sometimes at 2 different restaurants, its my vacation and I paid for it, and when Disney says I cannot do this, the I won't, until then, its fair game.

Yup, just like you admitting to it makes you fair game for criticism. Isn't it nice how that works?

It's because of people like yourself that eventually Disney will require a credit card security on ALL reservations. Then we ALL have to pay because instead of planning you hedge your bets.

Thankfully, if Disney does catch wind of your double ressies they have been known to cancel them both. I can only hope that happens to you, and the reservation goes to someone more considerate of other guests.

It's this "as long as I get what I want screw everyone else" attitude that so many of us find the worst part of a Disney vacation - dealing with people like yourself.

Lots of other people, in fact, just about every other family, pays for their Disney vacations as well. And you are actively trying to prevent them from enjoying them because of your selfishness - stand proud. :hurl:

AEfx

 

[cdunbar]

Here here aefx, I might be guilty of booking 2 different restaurants on the same night but 9 times outta 10 we pick the one we want before we leave and cancel the other!

 

[k.hunter30]

Yup, just like you admitting to it makes you fair game for criticism. Isn't it nice how that works?

It's because of people like yourself that eventually Disney will require a credit card security on ALL reservations. Then we ALL have to pay because instead of planning you hedge your bets.

Thankfully, if Disney does catch wind of your double ressies they have been known to cancel them both. I can only hope that happens to you, and the reservation goes to someone more considerate of other guests.

It's this "as long as I get what I want screw everyone else" attitude that so many of us find the worst part of a Disney vacation - dealing with people like yourself.

Lots of other people, in fact, just about every other family, pays for their Disney vacations as well. And you are actively trying to prevent them from enjoying them because of your selfishness - stand proud. :hurl:

AEfx

They would at least let them know that there are conflicting/excessive reservations before canceling them - correct? I would doubt that Disney would just take it upon themselves to completely erase reservations like that. That wouldn't be very good customer service - whether or not the customer was being fair.

 

[LuLaSue]

I believe the point that AEfx is trying to make here is that this other individual is, to put it simply selfish. As long as its good for him/her who cares about the other 10,000 people (with small childern and families) calling to make their ADR's they are most important. They have vacation places for people like that....hedonism!

 

[AEfx]

They would at least let them know that there are conflicting/excessive reservations before canceling them - correct? I would doubt that Disney would just take it upon themselves to completely erase reservations like that. That wouldn't be very good customer service - whether or not the customer was being fair.

Nope.

I've heard of multiple ressies just...disapearing.

It doesn't seem to be as cut and dry as the multiple resort reservation (which I believe is now actually cancelled by computer, but I don't know), which they had to do because of similar abuse. People would book a value and a mod or deluxe, hoping for discounts to come out, taking whatever was best. So Disney had to spend their time cracking down on that .

I'm all for using the system to your own advantage, but not abusing the system, a line some people don't seem to understand. It's just like the one kid in the back of the class who misbehaves and ruins stuff for everyone - so one day soon we won't be able to call up WDW-DINE and quickly make a ressie, we'll have to give a credit card for EVERY SINGLE ONE. Fun fun. And if you don't have a credit card/don't want to give one? Sorry, no sit-down dining for you.

And we will all know who to thank, our friend above who comes here and not only admits but seems to brag about it.

AEfx

 

[k.hunter30]

They would at least let them know that there are conflicting/excessive reservations before canceling them - correct? I would doubt that Disney would just take it upon themselves to completely erase reservations like that. That wouldn't be very good customer service - whether or not the customer was being fair.

Nope.

I've heard of multiple ressies just...disapearing.

It doesn't seem to be as cut and dry as the multiple resort reservation (which I believe is now actually cancelled by computer, but I don't know), which they had to do because of similar abuse. People would book a value and a mod or deluxe, hoping for discounts to come out, taking whatever was best. So Disney had to spend their time cracking down on that .
AEfx

Hmmm... I think this is highly doubtful. Just going along with their emphasis on customer appreciation. I think I'd have to see it to believe it.
And... um... even if this were true, automatically canceling reservations it not a reason to smile...:lookaroun ...:shrug: Especially when you take into consideration human error - or even people WANTING to do two meals in a four hour time span.

 

[hansel1]

Hmmm... I think this is highly doubtful. Just going along with their emphasis on customer appreciation. I think I'd have to see it to believe it.
And... um... even if this were true, automatically canceling reservations it not a reason to smile...:lookaroun ...:shrug: Especially when you take into consideration human error - or even people WANTING to do two meals in a four hour time span.

I have heard of numerous ADRs being cancelled for this very reason.

As far as people wanting to do two meals in a four hour span, that is allowed (disney looks for people making two or more dinner reservations).

If you book two dinner ADRs you will most likely lose both of them. This policy was established in late April due to booking problems for the upcoming free DDP dates.

 

[k.hunter30]

I have heard of numerous ADRs being cancelled for this very reason.

As far as people wanting to do two meals in a four hour span, that is allowed (disney looks for people making two or more dinner reservations).

If you book two dinner ADRs you will most likely lose both of them. This policy was established in late April due to booking problems for the upcoming free DDP dates.

So then what the one poster did is allowed and his reservations would not be canceled. I believe his reservations were at least four hours apart. :shrug: I'm not saying it's right. But I would just think canceling them without notice is rather "un-Disney".

 

[AEfx]

Hmmm... I think this is highly doubtful. Just going along with their emphasis on customer appreciation. I think I'd have to see it to believe it.
And... um... even if this were true, automatically canceling reservations it not a reason to smile...:lookaroun ...:shrug: Especially when you take into consideration human error - or even people WANTING to do two meals in a four hour time span.

Well it's a good thing I'm not out in life to impress you, LOL. Believe me that I have indeed heard of this happening, or don't.

It makes me smile when I hear about it because I enjoy it when people who try to screw over the system get screwed. It's called karma.

AEfx

 

[AEfx]

But I would just think canceling them without notice is rather "un-Disney".

LOL let them complain. "Yeah, I was trying to cheat your system, make you loose out on a dining party, and to keep a family turned away from eating at WDW. How dare you do this to me..."

Contrary to popular belief, Disney is not the huge pushover some people seem to think. On property, if you make a scene, yes, they will bend over backwards to keep you from disturbing other guests, but they have no problem cancelling fraudulent ADR's, nor should they. Someone making ADR's at a restaurant at 6 and 8PM *the same night* deserves what they get.

AEfx

 

[k.hunter30]

Well it's a good thing I'm not out in life to impress you, LOL. AEfx

:lookaroun
:shrug:
:lol:

LOL let them complain. "Yeah, I was trying to cheat your system, make you loose out on a dining party, and to keep a family turned away from eating at WDW. How dare you do this to me..."

Oh, as probably like you, I don't care too much about THOSE people complaining. As I wrote in an earlier post, it's the regular guest who might accidentally have their reservations deleted that I was thinking about.

 

[AEfx]

Oh, as probably like you, I don't care too much about THOSE people complaining. As I wrote in an earlier post, it's the regular guest who might accidentally have their reservations deleted that I was thinking about.

I don't think it happens to occasional accidents. I think it happens when you have someone, like the person bragging about it above, who has SIX reservations for SIX meals over three nights at the SAME RESTAURANT, each of whom are only a couple of hours apart, one is 3.5 hours later). We aren't talking about making a ressie at Sci-Fi and making one at LTT the same night, we are talking about a BLATANT screw over of the system. Is he even planning on going three times? Or just ONCE for six ressies? Abuse, abuse, abuse.

And precisely why this thread exists in the first place, when someone can't get one stinking ressie when this guy takes up six in one week and thinks "it's okay 'cause I paid for this here vacation!"

It's people like him that are going to send us to a CC-reserve only system, like they already do for Cindy's, Norway, and all the dinner shows. Heck, they even make you pay in advance for the dinner shows now when you book. It wasn't that long ago you didn't even need to secure it with a credit card. But unfortunately, as great as the internet is for some things, it ruins other things - people figure out how to screw the system, post about it online, more people do it...and next thing you know, we all pay the price.

I honestly don't know if Disney contacts the people or not...I just know that ressies like that do disapear. I also know that a few people that would have the power to know and or do so are reading this and hope they catch up with this guy, who so conveniently gave the dates and times of his multiple infractions.

There is absolutely no reasonable justification of booking a meal at the same restaurant two hours apart. And I hope he looses them to tech him a lesson.

AEfx

 

[reptar77]

No wonder you can't walk up anywhere and get a table anymore. They are waiting for people who had no intention of showing.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Funny, I made these reservations all at once and was told by my vacation specialist they were good as long as I had the confermation number. So the little theory of them just vanishing is plain folly, as I have done this before in the past as well.

I have multiple ADR's my entire trip due to the fact I have a rather large party. I also have booked private sections to watch Illuminations, Fantasmic and a boat ride to watch Wishes, next thing you know people will be complaing about that, even though its offered by Disney, *Jimmy roll's his eyes*.

I will admit, my 3rd ADR at Le Cellier is selfishness personified :fork:

 

[AEfx]

Funny, I made these reservations all at once and was told by my vacation specialist they were good as long as I had the confermation number. So the little theory of them just vanishing is plain folly, as I have done this before in the past as well.

I have multiple ADR's my entire trip due to the fact I have a rather large party. I also have booked private sections to watch Illuminations, Fantasmic and a boat ride to watch Wishes, next thing you know people will be complaing about that, even though its offered by Disney, *Jimmy roll's his eyes*.

I will admit, my 3rd ADR at Le Cellier is selfishness personified :fork:

Wow, you admit to making fraudulent ADR's, brag about it, are called on it, and come back to try to justify it "due to the fact (you) have a rather large party".

Okay, man, you are right, that makes it okay. You needed LOTS of tables, so you aren't just taking tables away from one or two families, but MANY families because of your greed. That just makes it even worse, and the fact that you would admit such a thing really makes you look like a very nasty, inconsiderate person.

It's not "folly", it's actually happening to people like you. And I hope it does. You bragging that you have done this before is just sick. You take pleasure in keeping other people from enjoying their Disney vacations. I can't think of anything more offensive than that. Man, your karma must be stellar...

But you paid for it, right. It doesn't matter that everyone else did too.

Oh well, when we all have to put a credit card down on every last ressie we make, we'll know who to thank. I'll be sure to point to this thread and your extreme example of crass arrogance as exactly why.

I take Wishes cruises too. But I don't think that entitles me to be an...a word that I can't use on a family board.

AEfx

 

[Dwarful]

We are going in August with a big group (girl scouts). Thankfully, Pam made most of my adr's, except for the restaurants that you must contact directly for large groups (over 23 people). On one day we had breakfast at one restaurant held, then I called the other restaurant directly (because not even Disney GG Dining specialists can help w/groups over 23 people at many restaurants now! huge pain having to call multiple number and try to organize your dining...thankfully we have Pam!). Anyway, I had two breakfasts within 5 mins. of each other and had to call back and cancel the one we didn't want.

This double/triple booking reminds me of the website a few years ago that had masses of people making calls to get the coveted Cinderella's Breakfast reservations and then giving them out to people who needed them.

Reminds me of a saying my dad always said:
Take what you need, but be sure you need what you take.

 

[LuLaSue]

So then what the one poster did is allowed and his reservations would not be canceled. I believe his reservations were at least four hours apart. :shrug: I'm not saying it's right. But I would just think canceling them without notice is rather "un-Disney".

Seems to me, the person making 2 reservations for the same restaurant in the same night is an UN-DISNEY thing to do. I say his/her ADR's should be dismissed.

 

[LuLaSue]

Funny, I made these reservations all at once and was told by my vacation specialist they were good as long as I had the confermation number. So the little theory of them just vanishing is plain folly, as I have done this before in the past as well.

I have multiple ADR's my entire trip due to the fact I have a rather large party. I also have booked private sections to watch Illuminations, Fantasmic and a boat ride to watch Wishes, next thing you know people will be complaing about that, even though its offered by Disney, *Jimmy roll's his eyes*.

I will admit, my 3rd ADR at Le Cellier is selfishness personified :fork:

We are arriving in November, with a party of 11 and we to are taking the boat ride to watch Wishes and booked the Illuminations and Fantasmic packages. To be frank with you, I would never think to take advantage of the system in ways you have. Everyone wants to optomize their Disney experience, I have taken the pains to Properly Plan. You, IMHO have planned in a way inwhich may hinder another Disney Guest from enjoying their trip to the fullest extent. I just think it is shameful. I have 3 nieces that I want to ensure have the full experience yet, I would never be so selfish as to take away another childs happy time.

 

[MickeyTigg]

I was making ADR for our 14 day Dec trip, Le Cell is already booked for dinner on every day .
It never used to be this way, for the past 2 years things have gotten progressively worse. You can hardly walk up and get a table anymore. Do you think it is because of free dinning?

Not the "free dining" but rather the Dining Plan.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Wow, you admit to making fraudulent ADR's, brag about it, are called on it, and come back to try to justify it "due to the fact (you) have a rather large party".

I don't seem to remember being "called", on anything, I'm only stating the facts on how I do Disney, and if Disney does not seem to have a problem with it, I don't know why you should? If I remeber correctly, its Disney's system, not yours...

Okay, man, you are right, that makes it okay. You needed LOTS of tables, so you aren't just taking tables away from one or two families, but MANY families because of your greed. That just makes it even worse, and the fact that you would admit such a thing really makes you look like a very nasty, inconsiderate person.

My group is, as of right now, 60 people, with several of them arriving at different times all week. If your there, stop by and say Hi, just look for the group with blue tee-shirts.

It's not "folly", it's actually happening to people like you. And I hope it does. You bragging that you have done this before is just sick. You take pleasure in keeping other people from enjoying their Disney vacations. I can't think of anything more offensive than that. Man, your karma must be stellar...

I've been doing it for over three years now, without a single ADR getting dismissed. So the first time it happens to me, I'll let you know.:ROFLOL: As for my karma, my job as a police officer balances that out.

But you paid for it, right. It doesn't matter that everyone else did too.

Well, hopefully I taught you all a lesson in Disney planning. First course is on me, the lesson that is, I tend to keep my ADR's

Oh well, when we all have to put a credit card down on every last ressie we make, we'll know who to thank. I'll be sure to point to this thread and your extreme example of crass arrogance as exactly why.

I take Wishes cruises too. But I don't think that entitles me to be an...a word that I can't use on a family board.

AEfx

Honestly, I think you take yourself way to seriously. Smile once in a while, and book early, some people live for making ADR's, and taking out your anger on me does nothing but make you lose another ADR to someone else, possibly me:king: