Large Piece Falls off Monorail - Being Evacuated

[SourcererMark79]

 

[Monorail_Red]

This thread is great. A monorail broke and we have people arguing about calling 911 and another group of people arguing about the safety of riding a gondola in a lightning storm.

I can only imagine what the forums will look like the next time a door falls off while opening/closing in the station

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I'm hoping in the next 5 years..gotta be optimistic, right?

If it takes much longer than that I might have to pass - I'm that vain!

 

[monothingie]

I can only imagine what the forums will look like the next time a door falls off while opening/closing in the station

Personal experience?

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Not to mention a power failure leaving guests stranded in a stuff gondola for hours in the air.

At Six Flags Great Adventure, the skyride there (like the old ride @ WDW) has a VW diesel engine that they will use to get all the riders down...I'm SURE WDW has a "plan B" for just that sort of emergency

 

[21stamps]

At Six Flags Great Adventure, the skyride there (like the old ride @ WDW) has a VW diesel engine that they will use to get all the riders down...I'm SURE WDW has a "plan B" for just that sort of emergency

Irrelevant.
logic has no place here.

If it takes much longer than that I might have to pass - I'm that vain!

Ha ha!

 

[raven]

Sure, to an extent. I've seen it. And some people truly flat out don't care. But people know the pay rate before they're hired, so if they make the argument "I'm not paid enough to do a 10 minute checklist correctly," then they should have never taken the job in the first place.

Oh, buddy. There's obviously a lot that you don't know about theme park employees. That would be the obvious answer but in reality it's a whole other story. Thousands get hired, are trained, then do the bare minimum to get by and usually management says nothing to them so they don't care. It's not all pixie dust on the other side.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Irrelevant.
logic has no place here.



Ha ha!

LOL...I keep forgetting that everyone one here expects perfection when they go to WDW...perfection is only in Heaven (where I hope to be @ 113!!)

 

[Cesar R M]

My point is.. I would like someone to admit/confirm, that there probably isn't a chance of a runaway monorail or a disabled dangerous monorail that just merrily continues on it's route, unknown to all, and putting everyone in danger.

I actually wonder the same. Isnt the automation supposed to remove all human errors on these kind of events?
but if the automated system does NOT detect these kind of malfunctions, thing go could go BAD.
Specially if it takes someone to call the control center room to SHUT DOWN the damaged monorail...

 

[Rhinocerous]

CMs are trained to not take on situations themselves but to contact their chain of command or emergency services.

More than likely the CM probably just didn't realize how literal the guy was. These people hear thousands of stupid people statements a week

Thank you.

 

[21stamps]

I actually wonder the same. Isnt the automation supposed to remove all human errors on these kind of events?
but if the automated system does NOT detect these kind of malfunctions, thing go could go BAD.
Specially if it takes someone to call the control center room to SHUT DOWN the damaged monorail...

I wish I knew the answer, I don't think anybody here can answer that.

 

[natatomic]

Oh, buddy. There's obviously a lot that you don't know about theme park employees. That would be the obvious answer but in reality it's a whole other story. Thousands get hired, are trained, then do the bare minimum to get by and usually management says nothing to them so they don't care. It's not all pixie dust on the other side.

I've been working there for nearly 8 years. I am well aware of the wide variety of people that come and go through the company. That still doesn't change the expectation of the job. Nor does it mean every "theme park employee" is doing a half-@$$ job just because there are some that do the bare minimum. (I don't care what company you work for, there are terrible employees everywhere, whether they get paid minimum wage or more, but the bad ones don't represent the company as a whole). You make it sound like people are luckily to escape Disney alive on a daily basis due to bad employees. Granted, people die on property occasionally, but people die everywhere, and there's no grave danger just from stepping foot inside the park.

 

[danlb_2000]

I actually wonder the same. Isnt the automation supposed to remove all human errors on these kind of events?
but if the automated system does NOT detect these kind of malfunctions, thing go could go BAD.
Specially if it takes someone to call the control center room to SHUT DOWN the damaged monorail...

Assuming that the piece that fell off was a bus bar shoe, since that's what it looks like, I can't imaging a driver having any more knowledge of it happening then an automated system would. It's unlikely the driver would see it happening, so they only way they would know is if there was an indicator of some sort in the cockpit in which case an automated system would have access to that same sensor. The only other way is that someone reports it to the tower. If there is a driver the tower would call the driver and tell them to stop, if it's automated they would send a signal to the automation system to shut it down.,

 

[RustySpork]

Dialetric Breakdown is a concern when there are poor paths to ground available. This isn't the case here.. and you sitting in a gondola do not represent any better path for the current to go anywhere. You are a dead-end because are you are at the same potential as the rest of the gondola. Even if arcing did goto the gondola, the current will flow in the gondola structure to the grounded cable to the towers or arc to something else instead of trying to arc between the interior through you to... what? Out the windows to something outside the gondola? Arc across the gondola interior... arcing open air.. instead of flowing through the conductive gondola itself?

Please stop this foolishness.

Spoiler

 

[andysol]

This guy sounds like a real peach.

Not to go too much more off topic on this unnecessary subject- but thought this might make some people chuckle.
The Alvey talk made me remember that TPR has a thread on seaworld San Antonio- so I went to see the new San Antonio wavebreaker ride and saw the little man child going on a tirade- then remembered he used to pimp his forum over here Every time he got on.

His 2nd most recent post:

Nope. They aren't. They are mine. I don't mind you re-posting them, but some credit would have been nice. The full report can be found here: http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61014

His tirade last week:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1800744#p1800744

That should give you a nice nugget as to the type of guy he is- if you even needed evidence.

 

[lentesta]

Please stop this foolishness.

<muppets>What foolishness would you like to see?</muppets>

 

[raven]

I've been working there for nearly 8 years. I am well aware of the wide variety of people that come and go through the company. That still doesn't change the expectation of the job. Nor does it mean every "theme park employee" is doing a half-@$$ job just because there are some that do the bare minimum. (I don't care what company you work for, there are terrible employees everywhere, whether they get paid minimum wage or more, but the bad ones don't represent the company as a whole). You make it sound like people are luckily to escape Disney alive on a daily basis due to bad employees. Granted, people die on property occasionally, but people die everywhere, and there's no grave danger just from stepping foot inside the park.

Not making it sound bad at all. Just don't want people to believe it's all Magic and Fairy Tales working there. A job is a job, I get it. But when Disney will basically hire anyone then they will get every kind of personality. Some people just want a job and could care less about checklists, proper ways of doing tasks or even following safety procedures. To some, it's just a job. But often management isn't around or even step in to correct their behavior and these employees do the same things day after day, year after year. And no, a Disney recruiter doesn't know everything about each and every role in the company. They just go over a list of typical daily requirements with the applicant before they hire them. So CMs don't know everything about what their roles will entail the moment they take the job.

 

[Nubs70]

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Dialetric Breakdown is a concern when there are poor paths to ground available. This isn't the case here.. and you sitting in a gondola do not represent any better path for the current to go anywhere. You are a dead-end because are you are at the same potential as the rest of the gondola. Even if arcing did goto the gondola, the current will flow in the gondola structure to the grounded cable to the towers or arc to something else instead of trying to arc between the interior through you to... what? Out the windows to something outside the gondola? Arc across the gondola interior... arcing open air.. instead of flowing through the conductive gondola itself?

Please stop this foolishness.

Gondolas are the same as a bird on a wire.

 

[Cesar R M]

The same thing happened to me on the Beast a few years ago in October. Just before the first tunnel, a deer was standing right next to the track. They must all be used to the noise and all.

plot twist, it was a super realistic animatronic used to cheap scare.

 

[21stamps]

Not making it sound bad at all. Just don't want people to believe it's all Magic and Fairy Tales working there. A job is a job, I get it. But when Disney will basically hire anyone then they will get every kind of personality. Some people just want a job and could care less about checklists, proper ways of doing tasks or even following safety procedures. To some, it's just a job. But often management isn't around or even step in to correct their behavior and these employees do the same things day after day, year after year. And no, a Disney recruiter doesn't know everything about each and every role in the company. They just go over a list of typical daily requirements with the applicant before they hire them. So CMs don't know everything about what their roles will entail the moment they take the job.

So are you saying that Disney has entry level employees in charge of inspecting the rides daily? This is the wdw maintenance team, the same people who are checking your seatbelt?