Knockout Game: Why Do Teens Do It?

[Cesar R M]

I think social media plays into this too - how many stupid things get posted every day that make you scratch your head and wonder what in the world would possess anyone to do that?

agree, I blame the "Jackass" Generation
also.. I'm surprised this as been getting attention now, as kids been doing this for YEARS.

They used to attack commercial mascots in my country too.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Yup. Preferably something like a Gerber. 4 inches is more than enough. When they're close enough to punch you, don't slash, puncture. Definitely an attention-getter.

I'm just still impressed that you referenced NCIS...and knew the exact rule (which I had to go look up)

 

[unkadug]

Yup. Preferably something like a Gerber. 4 inches is more than enough. When they're close enough to punch you, don't slash, puncture. Definitely an attention-getter.

However...just randomly puncturing/slashing those who you feel have violated your personal space is just as bad (if not worse) than randomly punching someone. I'm not a judge, but I'm pretty sure the courts would agree.

I'm just still impressed that you referenced NCIS...and knew the exact rule (which I had to go look up)

I'm impressed that you actually took the time to look it up...I just skimmed over it thinking it was nonsense.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I'm impressed that you actually took the time to look it up...I just skimmed over it thinking it was nonsense.

I picked up on what it most likely was (an NCIS reference) and looked it up quickly.

 

[KeithVH]

However...just randomly puncturing/slashing those who you feel have violated your personal space is just as bad (if not worse) than randomly punching someone. I'm not a judge, but I'm pretty sure the courts would agree.


I'm impressed that you actually took the time to look it up...I just skimmed over it thinking it was nonsense.

"violating personal space" also has another term - assault (legal definition). Self-defense, as long as I don't go for a major artery or organ, is acceptable. Then again, I'm from Texas and we have a more common sense approach to this crap.

 

[unkadug]

"violating personal space" also has another term - assault (legal definition). Self-defense, as long as I don't go for a major artery or organ, is acceptable. Then again, I'm from Texas and we have a more common sense approach to this crap.

By simply violating personal space is NOT assault...without threat of battery, there can be no assault.



tort.laws.com/intentional-interference

Assault in the United States is a broadly defined charge of violent crime which constitutes an attempt to commit battery
Assault charges may be as minor as the classification of Simple assault, which does not result in any bodily injury upon the plaintiff. Simple assault is the violation of one's personal space without consent that does not result in physical harm. Importantly, simple assault charges, unlike menacing charges, must result in physical contact.​

 

[Cesar R M]

By simply violating personal space is NOT assault...without threat of battery, there can be no assault.



tort.laws.com/intentional-interference

Assault in the United States is a broadly defined charge of violent crime which constitutes an attempt to commit battery
Assault charges may be as minor as the classification of Simple assault, which does not result in any bodily injury upon the plaintiff. Simple assault is the violation of one's personal space without consent that does not result in physical harm. Importantly, simple assault charges, unlike menacing charges, must result in physical contact.​

So, the laws say that as soon you get pushed it could be classified as simple assault?

I think kids in our generation do a lot of dumb stuff that neither of us would ever consider doing, nor would the majority of teens consider doing. Plus, it's about the crowd, and I don't think you hang out with the wrong crowd, nor did I in high school.

Yes; but I think the difference is.. "doing something stupid with you and your friends".... to "doing stupid and dangerous things with your friends , filming it while harming or killing third party innocent bystanders". D:

 

[ScoutN]

I sense a ton of smoke being blown in this thread.

This is just another reason I CC near daily now.

 

[Tom]

I sense a ton of smoke being blown in this thread.

This is just another reason I CC near daily now.

Definitely inching toward doing that myself.

 

[The Mom]

By simply violating personal space is NOT assault...without threat of battery, there can be no assault.



tort.laws.com/intentional-interference

Assault in the United States is a broadly defined charge of violent crime which constitutes an attempt to commit battery
Assault charges may be as minor as the classification of Simple assault, which does not result in any bodily injury upon the plaintiff. Simple assault is the violation of one's personal space without consent that does not result in physical harm. Importantly, simple assault charges, unlike menacing charges, must result in physical contact.​

The 2013 Florida Statutes

Title XLVI
CRIMES Chapter 784
ASSAULT; BATTERY; CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE View Entire Chapter
784.011 Assault.—
(1) An “assault” is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.
(2) Whoever commits an assault shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.—s. 5, Feb. 10, 1832; RS 2400; GS 3226; RGS 5059; CGL 7161; s. 1, ch. 70-88; s. 729, ch 71-136; s. 17, ch. 74-383; s. 7, ch. 75-298; s. 171, ch. 91-224.
Note.—Former s. 784.02.

The important phrase is well-founded fear. Not just fear, but well founded. If I'm walking by myself, and I fear the person invading my personal space due to his/her actions/words towards me, a jury might agree that my fears are well-founded - even if no physical contact has actually occurred.

If someone approaches and asks, "Excuse me, but do you know how to get to ___ ? Do you have the time? etc" not well founded.

If someone approaches and asks "Hey, got any spare change? " while continuing to get closer? Grey area - would just be on high alert.

If someone approaches and asks "Yo b****! What the ....... you doing here?" and continues to approach aggressively - well founded.

There is no way to definitely know which of the above scenarios would lead to an actual crime - some criminals can be very polite; some people just act tough but are not going to really hurt anyone. It's a "more likely than not" judgement, which has to be made in a split second, and if you make the wrong decision it can ruin your life - or end it.

But as the saying goes, "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

 

[luv]

Stories like this are why I stopped watching the news.

I was recently called to Jury Duty and am dreading it for all the usual reasons as well as the fact that I might get picked and really don't want to hold someone's future in my hands. Such an overwhelming and depressing responsibility.

I'd be happy to be on that kind of case, though. Vicious little punk who punches the old lady? Guilty of whatever they want to charge him with. Person who shot vicious little punk? Not Guilty of everything.

The human race never ceases to amaze me with its kindness or viciousness.

 

[Tom]

Stories like this are why I stopped watching the news.

I was recently called to Jury Duty and am dreading it for all the usual reasons as well as the fact that I might get picked and really don't want to hold someone's future in my hands. Such an overwhelming and depressing responsibility.

I'd be happy to be on that kind of case, though. Vicious little punk who punches the old lady? Guilty of whatever they want to charge him with. Person who shot vicious little punk? Not Guilty of everything.

The human race never ceases to amaze me with its kindness or viciousness.

I'd probably be asked to leave because I would share those exact sentiments.