Kids on Chains

[DDuckFan130]

Has anyone heard "The Animal Song" by Savage Garden? Reading these posts reminds me of the line "Animals and children tell the truth, they never lie; which one is more human? There's a thought, now you decide..."

For the record, this is one of my favorite songs of theirs, and this was not intended to offend anyone. I just thought of it because of the ongoing comparison of children and animals.

 

[scorp111]

My Dearest Daughter will be on a CDLRD at WDW in September. It will be likely one of the first times she has ever used it. She is a well-adjusted 1 year old right now, but still loves to wander off. We will definitely not be "dragging" her by as we have seen others.

2 years ago my Mother was using one on my niece in DLP and my wife and I both thought we wouldn't need/use one.

We were wrong.
Used properly, it is just an additional help in allowing the child freedom while ensuring they are safe.

 

[bgraham34]

What a heated argument. I have no kids. as of right now. I dont plan on having any for a few years, at least I hope. But I would never do that to my kid. I understand they want to room and may not sit still. As a youngster I was always roaming around but My father very strict, all he had to do was give me a look. In public I behaved well but at home i was more wild. I just dont think it is necesary. And I have brought little kids to the toy store. 2 at most at the same time, and managed to control them. I have spent time baby sitting and love it. I dont know people just have to be more responsible. I know some kids have learning problems. But many a times when parents have there kids chained up they are not even looking at the kid. Oh forget it. I cant win, but I wont do it no matter what.

 

[Mickifan17]

What a heated argument. I have no kids. as of right now. I dont plan on having any for a few years, at least I hope. But I would never do that to my kid. I understand they want to room and may not sit still. As a youngster I was always roaming around but My father very strict, all he had to do was give me a look. In public I behaved well but at home i was more wild. I just dont think it is necesary. And I have brought little kids to the toy store. 2 at most at the same time, and managed to control them. I have spent time baby sitting and love it. I dont know people just have to be more responsible. I know some kids have learning problems. But many a times when parents have there kids chained up they are not even looking at the kid. Oh forget it. I cant win, but I wont do it no matter what.

Most of us parents probably said the same thing. I know I did. But until you have your own children, you don't know what it's like. I always said how cruel that was when I saw other people doing it. Then I had my own kids. With all the abductions you hear about these days, it's a simple, inexpensive way to keep your kids safe. It's not about laziness of the parents. And it certainly has nothing to do with being responsible. If I didn't do everything I could to keep my children safe, that would not be responsible.

 

[patelaine1953]

I don't think that leads/leashes are bad. It's the parents who are not paying attention to their leashed children in large crowds and allow them to wander a little too far away. That is when the trouble starts. The original post stated that the gentleman was tripped up by a child in a lead running. When he fell and the child also got hurt, the parents lashed out at him. The parents are the ones who were in the wrong. In large crowds, the leash should be kept a little shorter so that the child cannot wander as far. Responsible parents, as I'm sure most of you posting are, do this. Those who just want to keep their children near do not. I'm not trying to be mean or offensive. Both of my children are now grown and I did daycare for about 10 years so I know how kids can behave. Some children DO need to be leashed; but, as I said, in large crowds that leash should be kept shorter so that the child and others around don't get hurt. I would hate to see really small children get seriously hurt because a very large person was tripped and fell on them.

 

[mrtoad]

I think this thread should end now.

As I and others have mentioned throughout this thread. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT JUDGE OTHERS. People should not judge others for this as they should not judge them for being overweight, underweight, black, white, Jewish, Christian, gay, straight, etc. It is not your right to judge. I am not saying don’t be angry if you see someone swearing in a public place, or wearing inappropriate attire in public. Those are things you can judge as it is cut and dry in those cases. You don’t walk around a public place dropping F bombs everywhere. You don’t walk around in public with your privates visible. But to judge someone for how they raise their kid is just wrong. I am not talking about parents who beat the crud out of their kids. (not saying spanking, that is a judgment the parents must make. I do not spank my daughter, but that is up to you if you spank your own kid), I am talking about beating your kid. Yes judge that and judge harshly and call the cops. But to judge a parent for something other than that is just wrong.

You know it, I know it, we all know it.

We should drop this thread.

 

[WDWcouple]

I wonder if we could come up with a Leash for the tour guides for these tour groups that frequent the park in the summer... (((You know who Im talking about)))

Sorry just trying to add levity to the situation

 

[celticdog]

In the pet world, "lead" and "leash" are interchangable.

You know, i never thought about, but you're right. Another thing i was thinking about. I "leash" my dog, but i "lead" my horse.

I actually use a horse lead on my dog. It's much easier on the hands, not like those nylon straps they sell as leashes.

 

[comeoneileen999]

i agree it is horrible to see a kid on a leash and there are plenty other ways to keep controll of your kids... i bet 99% of the parents you asked would say that their parents didnt put them on a leash

 

[Laura]

i agree it is horrible to see a kid on a leash and there are plenty other ways to keep controll of your kids... i bet 99% of the parents you asked would say that their parents didnt put them on a leash

For the 22398th time, it's not about CONTROLLING them, it's about keeping them SAFE! If you think it's horrible to keep a kid safe then I don't know what to tell you.

And you know what? Most parents of young children who are in their 20's or 30's right now, and 20-30 years ago life was a lot safer for little kids. So your little analogy is pointless.

My sister and I were some of the best behaved children you'll ever meet. My parents were incredible in the area of disciplining us. But one time when my sister was 3-4 years old she got lost in the Magic Kingdom (in toontown actually). I still remember how horrifying it was for my parents when they were running around frantically trying to find her. After that situation my sister wore a "leash" whenever we were in busy places like that, not because my parents had trouble CONTROLLING us, but because they never wanted to be in that scary situation again of losing their child.

I'm still disgusted by all the judgements being passed in this thread. And the pathetic thing is most of you have NO IDEA what parenting is all about and you have NO IDEA how valueable our children are to us and how scary it is to be a parent in this day and age. You have NO RIGHT to judge if you don't have children of your own.

If you had a thousand dollars in your possession would you just set it on a bench next to you and assume that as long as you are watching it carefully it will be ok sitting there? No, because that would be too risky. In the blink of your eye someone could come up and snatch that thousand dollars right from under your nose. Well I'll tell you what, my children are worth more than any amount of money to me, and if I'm not willing to take the risk of someone stealing my money by not keeping it secured to me, then I SURELY am not willing to take the risk of having my children being taken from me. So if I am ever in the situation where I need to use the harness, you betcha I will use it. And for all you people who think badly of the harnesses, that just proves you have no idea what it means to VALUE a child.

 

[Testtrack321]

For the 22398th time, it's not about CONTROLLING them, it's about keeping them SAFE! If you think it's horrible to keep a kid safe then I don't know what to tell you.

And you know what? Most parents of young children who are in their 20's or 30's right now, and 20-30 years ago life was a lot safer for little kids. So your little analogy is pointless.

My sister and I were some of the best behaved children you'll ever meet. My parents were incredible in the area of disciplining us. But one time when my sister was 3-4 years old she got lost in the Magic Kingdom (in toontown actually). I still remember how horrifying it was for my parents when they were running around frantically trying to find her. After that situation my sister wore a "leash" whenever we were in busy places like that, not because my parents had trouble CONTROLLING us, but because they never wanted to be in that scary situation again of losing their child.

I'm still disgusted by all the judgements being passed in this thread. And the pathetic thing is most of you have NO IDEA what parenting is all about and you have NO IDEA how valueable our children are to us and how scary it is to be a parent in this day and age. You have NO RIGHT to judge if you don't have children of your own.

If you had a thousand dollars in your possession would you just set it on a bench next to you and assume that as long as you are watching it carefully it will be ok sitting there? No, because that would be too risky. In the blink of your eye someone could come up and snatch that thousand dollars right from under your nose. Well I'll tell you what, my children are worth more than any amount of money to me, and if I'm not willing to take the risk of someone stealing my money by not keeping it secured to me, then I SURELY am not willing to take the risk of having my children being taken from me. So if I am ever in the situation where I need to use the harness, you betcha I will use it. And for all you people who think badly of the harnesses, that just proves you have no idea what it means to VALUE a child.

Mabey for you, but I've seen times when this was used when parents want to conroll their kids. I can understand safety, as in the kid is right next to you, but most of the time they are out as far as they can go, and the parents just use it like a cheap stroller.

 

[M. Racer]

I think some of you people are completely BLIND!!!


People who love their children will keep them SAFE. It sounds to me like some of you are more concerned about appearances than the safety of your child. Even the best behaved child can become seperated from their parents. A harness is NOT an indication of a person's ability as a parent, but it IS an indication that they love their child and that they are willing to get nasty looks and be judged by others so that their child can be safe!

Tell it Laura!! I see no problem with it, in fact, I prefer children tobe harnessed at Disney. :wave:

 

[Kopp8699]

I understand that it's not a question of teaching children how to behave (well at least with the people on this board it isn't) but my main problem with the leash is the way they look. It's like the kid is the pet. If the adult wore a harness around their chest too maybe I'd feel different. How many of you parents would wear the leash around your chest too?

(note this is a sarcastic joke, please don't take offense)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lookaroun

I'm going to be verbally castrated for this...

 

[WDWcouple]

I'm going to be verbally castrated for this...

Nawww if I didint get castrated for my comment about leashing the brazillian tour groups then you should be just fine

 

[Mickifan17]

For the 22398th time, it's not about CONTROLLING them, it's about keeping them SAFE! If you think it's horrible to keep a kid safe then I don't know what to tell you.

And you know what? Most parents of young children who are in their 20's or 30's right now, and 20-30 years ago life was a lot safer for little kids. So your little analogy is pointless.

My sister and I were some of the best behaved children you'll ever meet. My parents were incredible in the area of disciplining us. But one time when my sister was 3-4 years old she got lost in the Magic Kingdom (in toontown actually). I still remember how horrifying it was for my parents when they were running around frantically trying to find her. After that situation my sister wore a "leash" whenever we were in busy places like that, not because my parents had trouble CONTROLLING us, but because they never wanted to be in that scary situation again of losing their child.

I'm still disgusted by all the judgements being passed in this thread. And the pathetic thing is most of you have NO IDEA what parenting is all about and you have NO IDEA how valueable our children are to us and how scary it is to be a parent in this day and age. You have NO RIGHT to judge if you don't have children of your own.

If you had a thousand dollars in your possession would you just set it on a bench next to you and assume that as long as you are watching it carefully it will be ok sitting there? No, because that would be too risky. In the blink of your eye someone could come up and snatch that thousand dollars right from under your nose. Well I'll tell you what, my children are worth more than any amount of money to me, and if I'm not willing to take the risk of someone stealing my money by not keeping it secured to me, then I SURELY am not willing to take the risk of having my children being taken from me. So if I am ever in the situation where I need to use the harness, you betcha I will use it. And for all you people who think badly of the harnesses, that just proves you have no idea what it means to VALUE a child.

Thank you, Laura. I couldn't agree more. I'm so done with this thread and am removing myself from futher notifications of anything new written to it. Thank you :sohappy:

 

[HauntedPirate]

And for all you people who think badly of the harnesses, that just proves you have no idea what it means to VALUE a child.

You have absolutely no idea how utterly stupid that comment was. Or how much it angers me to have someone say that I don't value my children because I think badly of a harness.

I am DONE with this thread. It is serving absolutely no purpose other than to anger everyone. I hope everyone can just take their opinion and walk away.

 

[McArcDes]

This is not an issue of being right or wrong. It is an issue of Parental Choice. I happen to agree with Laura22 but I have also lost my son in Fantasyland for a short time. I have never felt so paniced in all my life.

If parents choose or dont choose to put their child on a CDLRD or not is up to each parent(s). As parents we take on the greatest responsibilty ever in raising our children. We make our decisions based on our best judgments and our particular situations at that moment. Even if we diagree we all still feel we are still doing what we think is in the best interest of our own kids. I have not right to dictate to anyone how to raise their children and I also feel that no one has the right to dictate to me how to raise mine. I have found that when ever I have talked to other parents that my kids do many of the things all kids do. We all have more in common than not.

Some times we just have to agree to disagree and then move on.

 

[mathmagic]

I find it hard to believe that all of the people that think they were well-behaved and didn't need some sort of restraint really remeber what they were like when they were 2, 3 or 4 years old. And I wonder if their parents have the same fond memories, or if they have a slightly different version...

 

[MichRX7]

As a parent who took one girl (5) and three boys (4,3,3) to WDW on our last trip I will say I do not personally believe in having a leash for my children. But, on a side-note I have not walked in the shoes of any other parent and therefore don't judge their decision to leash their kids.

I do know that these four know that my wife and I mean business. When we stay don't touch it means don't touch, when we say watch for others in line they know they are getting a bit wild. I'm not criticizing others parenting skills, actually I feel quite lucky having two healthy boys and two healthy grandchildren who are 100% kids, but listen when we tell them something. I'm not saying they are always perfect at it, I mean they are kids, but they know polite behaviour from impolite, old school behaviour as my grandfather once called it before he passed on. :lol:

 

[csaguy]

On our first trip with kids we used the leash. My son (3 years old) would wander (RUN) away to look at things whenever he could. He was so good at escaping that we tied the leash to his pants. He still needs a reminder, even though he's 17.

Bob