Kevin Yee- Airing of Grievances

TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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Jones14 said:
It's funny you mention that, because two years later, I still tell people to visit WWoHP, and to check out the new projections on The Mummy and Spiderman. This is a guy who used to loathe the family trips to Universal because Disney did it so much better. Did, not does. I still love Disney, but I can't help but rave about how great Forbidden Journey is and how excited I am for Transformers. Whether or not they want to, people notice things, and it affects their decision making as far as theme parks go (and in everything, really).

I think one thing that separates Disney even further from the other companies is that Disney markets the crap out of everything. They make an enormous deal over a one-night flying dragon for the opening of an expansion that has so far only added an attraction and a half while ignoring the rest of the parks, while Universal, SeaWorld and Busch Gardens work hard on strengthening the upkeep, customer service, variety in mechandise, and overall experience of their parks, and stay quiet until they can unveil something top-tier (such a Forbidden Journey, Antarctica, Cheetah Hunt, Turtle Trek, Despicable Me, etc.) If Disney didn't call so much attention to themselves, it would be a lot harder to notice the declining details.
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I agree with this whole post, but the second paragraph makes a great point. Disney seems to live to promote -- even when what they're promoting is new benches or a fancy restroom.

I have no problem with hyperbole when it's backed with a high-quality product. But when it's empty words, that's a major turn-off for a lot of consumers.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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A couple of weeks ago when I visited WDW and rode the Mermaid ride, there was a trash can inside that picturesque queue that was overflowing with garbage, and I mean OVERFLOWING. Full to bursting with paper, food, and other guk, and plastic bottles lying on the ground all around it. Horrible. Wish I'd gotten a picture. It sort of illustrated the bored neglect I sensed everywhere I went in the park. Oh how the mighty have fallen...
 
menamechris

menamechris

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Magenta Panther said:
A couple of weeks ago when I visited WDW and rode the Mermaid ride, there was a trash can inside that picturesque queue that was overflowing with garbage, and I mean OVERFLOWING. Full to bursting with paper, food, and other guk, and plastic bottles lying on the ground all around it. Horrible. Wish I'd gotten a picture. It sort of illustrated the bored neglect I sensed everywhere I went in the park. Oh how the mighty have fallen...
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That's crazy - because I saw that too. I don't know if it was the same night - or if someone just hasn't informed the janitorial cast members of the new trash can location...
 
ParentsOf4

ParentsOf4

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CountryBearFan said:
DO NOT pray for failure--it's wrong, just like you are!

Plus, the Admins have got to ban the use of the term "TDO", but I know that they never listen to anyone anyway! :mad:
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Sarcasm on.

Yes, let's ban any thoughts, ideas, or expressions that disagree with ours.

Sarcasm off.

The way to "win" a debate is to present the better argument, not to ban the other side from debating.

My favorite football team will win the Super Bowl every year, once I figure out how to change the rules so that opposing teams are not allowed to score points. I'm working on it.;)

P.S. Kevin, thanks for the article!
 
DisneyWales

DisneyWales

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I have to say, its does sadden me to say that I would much prefer to go to Disneyland over WDW now.

Ive made 16 trips to WDW from the UK, each for two week, my last was in 2010 and I have to say I was deeply depressed walking around WDW.

For me its the effect of things like the parties and reduced hours and entertainment offerings. Having Wishes and MSEP only running on select days means that people CRAM into the parks on these days, which causes an unpleasant experience for all the guests who attend on the two days a week you can watch the night time shows because they would prefer to nickel and dime you do come back on a Party night or there too cheap to run crowd control for more than two nights a week.

I now loathe watching the fireworks at MK because it means fighting the crowds and getting angry parents being rude to me because I'm too tall for their child to see over me and it their only chance to watch the show.

Fant! has the same issues from crowd control point of view, the days that runs (if you can call what it does these days running) getting in and out of the amphitheatre is a total nightmare.

The last trip I had to Orlando, I enjoyed being at Universal and Sea World more than I did at WDW, not because they had better attractions, but the experience and guest journey was a whole lot more pleasurable.
 
Skippy's Pal

Skippy's Pal

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In my opinion, senior Disney management could commission a 3 or 4 million dollar consultant's study of WDW, and not come up with anything more on-point, accurate, and actionable than what Kevin Yee has written. I feel like printing-out his article, putting it in a frame, and mailing it to Tom Staggs. That would at least get someone's attention. In fact, I think I'll do just that.
 
jt04

jt04

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Lee said:
Splash isn't, and won't ever be, changing theme.
Pointless to discuss it outside the Armchair Imagineering forum.
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Some said the same about Test Track I am sure. Test Track will prove out the concept of radically retheming an attraction. It could start a trend of real "spirited change" that actually accomplishes something.

Other examples of such a retheme are Toad, Subs at DL, Mission to the Moon --> Mars --> Alien Encounter --> SGE and others. There is precedent for such retheming. So it is not like my thought is not based on actual experience.
 
drew81

drew81

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Skippy's Pal said:
In my opinion, senior Disney management could commission a 3 or 4 million dollar consultant's study of WDW, and not come up with anything more on-point, accurate, and actionable than what Kevin Yee has written. I feel like printing-out his article, putting it in a frame, and mailing it to Tom Staggs. That would at least get someone's attention. In fact, I think I'll do just that.
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I think I might do the same.
 
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Longhairbear

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Skippy's Pal said:
In my opinion, senior Disney management could commission a 3 or 4 million dollar consultant's study of WDW, and not come up with anything more on-point, accurate, and actionable than what Kevin Yee has written. I feel like printing-out his article, putting it in a frame, and mailing it to Tom Staggs. That would at least get someone's attention. In fact, I think I'll do just that.
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I am loving that idea, maybe we all should.
 
DocMcHulk

DocMcHulk

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Lee said:
It will depend very much on the potential management changes that are likely to happen in the next few months, along with the also likely rescinding of the One Disney initiative.

Part of the reasoning behind these moves is to bring a new philosophy to TDO that, it is hoped, will allow for somewhat of a TDA-style renaissance.

That, along with whether or not NextGen flies or flops, will tell the story of the resort for the remainder of the decade.
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One Disney is going away!?!?!?
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IWant2GoNow

IWant2GoNow

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Lee said:
It will depend very much on the potential management changes that are likely to happen in the next few months, along with the also likely rescinding of the One Disney initiative.

Part of the reasoning behind these moves is to bring a new philosophy to TDO that, it is hoped, will allow for somewhat of a TDA-style renaissance.

That, along with whether or not NextGen flies or flops, will tell the story of the resort for the remainder of the decade.
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That was literally music to my Mickey ears... "TDA-style renaissance". Could it be true?
 

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