RSoxNo1
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I'm of the impression that the cost of Radiator Springs Racers is going to be too prohibitive for TDO.
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Kevin says Crush is coming
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I'm of the impression that the cost of Radiator Springs Racers is going to be too prohibitive for TDO.
Slowjack
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I don't know why everyone is being so hard on Kevin. He's being loose with his wording, but he's not really suggesting that he has confirmed a Crush Coaster. The post is in the form of a question--hey, the building isn't being used for Star Wars Weekend--wonder if they are doing advance work on a new Pixar attraction there? And so he throws in an old concept rumor, the Crush Coaster. He's not claiming he's heard anything new about what's going there, and to say, "Kevin says Crush is coming!" is misleading.
Testtrack321
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MiceAge sets a precedent for breaking news and rumors. If you have an article on MiceAge that has some sort of rumor you have to at least be as sure as Al, otherwise comment on it being speculation or rumor.
Kevin is still great, fantastic stuff! But if you're writing a newspaper you don't put op-ed on the front page next to news with sources.
kirstenoel
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Good ride
I wouldn't call Crush's Coaster a kiddies coaster.... I think it;s a great ride and the theming is beautiful. Much better than that Primeval Whirl (or whatever it's called). I have just come back from Paris and I didn't queue for longer than 35 minutes for this ride. I also went last year and didn't find the queue too long and I didn't find it slow moving either.
DLP is so dead at the moment you can get on and off most rides in 15 minutes - it's nice to have to queue for a bit!
I wouldn't call Crush's Coaster a kiddies coaster.... I think it;s a great ride and the theming is beautiful. Much better than that Primeval Whirl (or whatever it's called). I have just come back from Paris and I didn't queue for longer than 35 minutes for this ride. I also went last year and didn't find the queue too long and I didn't find it slow moving either.
DLP is so dead at the moment you can get on and off most rides in 15 minutes - it's nice to have to queue for a bit!
BrerFrog
Active Member
I have got a better solution. Remove Nemo from The Seas and build him something on Pixar Place, bring the Laugh Floor to the area as well and theme the coaster to the Incredibles. After the playground is themed to A Bug's Life and a Cars ride is built we will have a lot of Pixar movies being represented by attractions on that area.
There is one problem, though: space.
Absimilliard
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Crush Coaster is actually an off the shelf model with the dark ride portion added to the beginning. This is what the coaster portion actually is: http://www.rcdb.com/2164.htm?p=10586 . Its made by a german company (actually the same one that did Rip Ride Rockit at USF) as opposed to a cheap french company for Primeval Whirl.
Disneyland Paris is not happy at all with what the german company delivered. As I mentionned, its a off the shelf version designed to run 6-7 cars at once. Crush can run over 12 cars at once and factor in the year round operation and you got a ride that aged 3 to 5 times faster than what it was supposed to be.
The multiple breakdowns come from a silly mistake on the part of Imagineering and the company. They wanted the dark ride to be silent and not have noises from the pusher tires normally used... So, they made the dark ride portion to run on gravity with a brake zone in the middle of it. So, the result was that each cars run at different speeds in it, based on weight and the wheels, so a faster car would catch up to a slower one and cause the ride to automatically e-stop.
The restraints will require to be modified or changed. The current lap bars on Crush won't allow many people over 6'2 or with large legs to close the lap bar properly.
The loading area would have to be longer or will need a moving walkway like Haunted Mansion. The smaller european guests already have enough problems loading the moving cars, so I can't imagine the guests at WDW doing it without stopping every other car or falling down!
Capacity of Crush is around 700-800 guests an hour on a good hour with little stops and every seats filled. They tried fast pass and it was a complete disaster!
Disneyland Paris is not happy at all with what the german company delivered. As I mentionned, its a off the shelf version designed to run 6-7 cars at once. Crush can run over 12 cars at once and factor in the year round operation and you got a ride that aged 3 to 5 times faster than what it was supposed to be.
The multiple breakdowns come from a silly mistake on the part of Imagineering and the company. They wanted the dark ride to be silent and not have noises from the pusher tires normally used... So, they made the dark ride portion to run on gravity with a brake zone in the middle of it. So, the result was that each cars run at different speeds in it, based on weight and the wheels, so a faster car would catch up to a slower one and cause the ride to automatically e-stop.
The restraints will require to be modified or changed. The current lap bars on Crush won't allow many people over 6'2 or with large legs to close the lap bar properly.
The loading area would have to be longer or will need a moving walkway like Haunted Mansion. The smaller european guests already have enough problems loading the moving cars, so I can't imagine the guests at WDW doing it without stopping every other car or falling down!
Capacity of Crush is around 700-800 guests an hour on a good hour with little stops and every seats filled. They tried fast pass and it was a complete disaster!
They VERY seriously looked at the Incredibles for Tomorrowland.
cheezbat
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Crush's Coaster looks pretty good for what it is: a smaller coaster meant to take up some time and space in guest's day in the park. I'm not too sure it would be a good addition at this time to Hollywood Studios though. I'd add another larger scale attraction before I'd consider something like this. Can you imagine the waits we would probably see for this thing? 2 hours easily.
Personally, I too would like to see a coaster themed to either the Incredibles or Up as well.
Personally, I too would like to see a coaster themed to either the Incredibles or Up as well.
I didn't intend to be hard on him, I enjoy his articles. I was only trying to point out to other posters who may be taking the mention of the Crush Coaster coming to WDW in his article as possible inside info that he is not known for that.
jtizzle1023
Member
rode it in paris and it was great. a spinning version of space mountain with a nemo theme
mp2bill
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Yeah, they really need to have more MI stuff, especially since MI2 will be coming out.
FigmentJedi
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Only reason Incredibles isn't a franchise is that while Brad Bird has ideas for a sequel, he doesn't have the plot in mind, plus he's been busy working on some live-action projects.
It'd be great if Brad Bird could work with Mark Waid on hammering out a plot for the sequel. Waid's done a great job with the Incredibles comic book series, plus he's really good at doing superhero stuff in general from his run on Flash and other DC and Marvel series to his masterpiece Kingdom Come.
Because The Living Seas is a Future World pavilion. :brick:
I am all for creative theming, but simply putting an un-original kid-friendly overlay onto a ride that is supposed to be about future technology and future life is just wrong. Additionally, all the ride does is rehash the movie. "I'm not going to lose you again Nemo!" No creativity. No original thought. NOT what belongs at a park designed to promote the future and world communitues. THAT is why so many of us are against Nemo being in the Seas (though obviously not enough of us). Nemo ruined a very well themed attraction at EPCOT. Nemo belongs in the Magic Kingdom or at DAK. Not at EPCOT.
I am in EPCOT 20+ days a year, and I will not set foot in the Seas pavilion again until the ride is de-Nemoified, nor will I purchase any Nemo related media or toys. I liked "Finding Nemo" when I saw it in theaters, but I have grown to hate it because of the changes it brought to the Seas. I realize it sounds silly, and it sounds over-the-top, but it is how I have grown to feel. Clown fish are the enemy of EPCOT.
Random Vids Inc
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That really scares me! I can't relate The Incredibles to The Land of Tomorrow in any way!
CharlieD
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You do not want Crush's Coaster in Florida! Of the many times I have been to Disneyland Paris queues are always 90 minutes+. The loading is so slow and the roller coaster bit is basically just a track in a large warehouse. Sure it's fun- but there is literally nothing expect a metal track as you're spinning round and round. The only way I can see it working is if they have two tracks next to each other like Primeval Whirl or duel loading. And for Gods sake make the queue more interesting, in Paris it's just a warehouse with a couple of signs referencing Nemo characters. I know Disneyland Paris is strapped for cash, but come on! At least when there's long waits at Toy Story Mania there is plenty to look at. I would compare the current Crush's Coaster queue to Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blast at Universal Studios. Imagine being stuck in that for two hours.
IMO Hollywood Studios is much better off with a clone of Cars Land- at least that looks like it has a quality attraction. Or if we're lucky a Monsters Inc or Incredibles attraction!
IMO Hollywood Studios is much better off with a clone of Cars Land- at least that looks like it has a quality attraction. Or if we're lucky a Monsters Inc or Incredibles attraction!
^Get there early - the line is short. The attraction being installed in the first place was a reaction similar to Temple of Peril to boost park capacity until longer term plans can be realised. Thankfully the ride wasn`t designed for FP and it wasn`t forced. Unlike TSMM.
C'mon - the first part is quite a good dark ride, with scenes very similar to Seas with Nemo. The lift hill is well executed (and a surprise) and the show building visual projections very well done, with some great elements (the EAC style bubble tunnel on the last brake run especially). RnRC is basically a track in a large warehouse too.
Once inside, the queue and load area is fantastically themed. It`s a very good white knuckle D Ride. But one that wouldn`t work at DHS as-is. Of course Cars Land has a quality attraction; it`s one that is costing upwards of $180m.
C'mon - the first part is quite a good dark ride, with scenes very similar to Seas with Nemo. The lift hill is well executed (and a surprise) and the show building visual projections very well done, with some great elements (the EAC style bubble tunnel on the last brake run especially). RnRC is basically a track in a large warehouse too.
Once inside, the queue and load area is fantastically themed. It`s a very good white knuckle D Ride. But one that wouldn`t work at DHS as-is. Of course Cars Land has a quality attraction; it`s one that is costing upwards of $180m.
CharlieD
New Member
I agree with pretty much all of that but if you've ever been in July-August or at any other peak time of the year you will have seen huge queues! We went August last year and raced there as soon as the park had opened, by 10am the queue was stretching across Toon Studio all the way to the entrance of Studio 1.
I haven't been this year yet so maybe queues have died down as it isn't a novelty anymore, but I still find that outdoor bit of the queue incredibly dull. Maybe it's just me but I still feel the ride is cheap and rushed; like almost all of Walt Disney Studios it is just a cheap alternative to boost capacity. Like Toy Story Playland- but that's a whole different story.
Even so, I enjoyed the ride- maybe it's just the experience I had queuing that made it less enjoyable.
And TBH I didn't know the price tag on Cars Land. But cloning is always cheaper than the original because the area has already been designed.
I haven't been this year yet so maybe queues have died down as it isn't a novelty anymore, but I still find that outdoor bit of the queue incredibly dull. Maybe it's just me but I still feel the ride is cheap and rushed; like almost all of Walt Disney Studios it is just a cheap alternative to boost capacity. Like Toy Story Playland- but that's a whole different story.
Even so, I enjoyed the ride- maybe it's just the experience I had queuing that made it less enjoyable.
And TBH I didn't know the price tag on Cars Land. But cloning is always cheaper than the original because the area has already been designed.
what planet are you on Big Thunder Mountain on a Island going under the water then going on the best ever rail way ride in the world. This is Disney Land Paris Best ever ride.