Just a thought on Epcot's 25th...

[speck76]

Yeah, those estimates were not correct for the WDW parks. Then again, they rarely are. Those people still use the last public number Disney ever admitted to as the basis for their estimate (17 million at the Magic Kingdom in 1997), and just use the quarterly reports that Disney releases to guide their guesswork along. I guess that would be fine, but the 17 million figure was a marketing gimmick so Disney could claim they had the most attended park in the world that year.

MGM is significantly below Animal Kingdom. This spring break is another clear example of that, where AK was the only park that had any significant chance of hitting phase 1. Since MGM and AK have about the same capacity, one would expect MGM to have been in the same situation if the attendance estimates had that park actually outdrawing AK.



Agreed. They were also expecting LMA to be a big draw for the park. That never happened.

The unfortunate thing is that MGM is SO broken, it is going to take significant capital to reinvent the park.

LMA did not do it, and I doubt Midway Mania will either. The park needs almost every attraction to be upgraded or replaced.....

 

[8<:-)]

We're going to send EPCOT a birthday card.

-thedisneycast

 

[pheneix]

The unfortunate thing is that MGM is SO broken, it is going to take significant capital to reinvent the park.

LMA did not do it, and I doubt Midway Mania will either. The park needs almost every attraction to be upgraded or replaced.....

Indeed. They need to have a strong focus for the park. MGM has a really good run when it was the Hollywood That Never Was joined at the hip with the "Real Working Movie Studio." I think moving away from that has hurt the park tremendously. It probably says a lot that the two most popular attractions in the park are holdovers from that era. MGM was at its best when it was a more mature park.

They could go in the "Ride The Movies" direction, but honestly Universal is already there and they do a pretty decent job with it.

Irregardless, if they keep throwing in random attractions like LMA and Toy Story Mania with reckless disregard for the theme or what the audience expects from the park, three years from now we're still gonna be having this conversation.

 

[speck76]

Indeed. They need to have a strong focus for the park. MGM has a really good run when it was the Hollywood That Never Was joined at the hip with the "Real Working Movie Studio." I think moving away from that has hurt the park tremendously. It probably says a lot that the two most popular attractions in the park are holdovers from that era. MGM was at its best when it was a more mature park.

They could go in the "Ride The Movies" direction, but honestly Universal is already there and they do a pretty decent job with it.

Irregardless, if they keep throwing in random attractions like LMA and Toy Story Mania with reckless disregard for the theme or what the audience expects from the park, three years from now we're still gonna be having this conversation.

MGM became something so different that its original design (theme park + working studio, most areas were closed to guests). The park was too successful too early, and that caused the first variance from plan (with the opening of some tour areas, and then the dead-end Sunset Blvd.) The park also had to keep pace with USF in the early days....

now, it wallows in previous poor planned expansion.


[pssst ....irregardless is not a real word]

 

[jedimaster1227]

We're going to send EPCOT a birthday card.

-thedisneycast

We are doing more than that... :animwink:

 

[dxwwf3]

It is funny to re-read the 2yr old speculation on Epcot's 25th

No need to rub it in :lol:

I know you have to be loving that Disney isn't celebrating this.

 

[speck76]

No need to rub it in :lol:

I know you have to be loving that Disney isn't celebrating this.

yes....but for the reason that it would be a bad business decision....

I don't understand why people can not see through their own emotions and get this point....

 

[marni1971]

yes....but for the reason that it would be a bad business decision....

I don't understand why people can not see through their own emotions and get this point....

A lot of us are talking about a low key public acknoweldgement for the price of a night at the GF - not `25` on every lamp post and a special parade :wave:

-or the price of a few desks and a bit of carpet in the TDO building

 

[dxwwf3]

yes....but for the reason that it would be a bad business decision....

That's not the only reason and you know it

 

[dxwwf3]

A lot of us are talking about a low key public acknoweldgement for the price of a night at the GF - not `25` on every lamp post and a special parade :wave:

-or the price of a few desks and a bit of carpet in the TDO building

No kidding. I don't know where this "Disney should have a big celebration" stuff got started.