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Jungle Cruise Update

NobodyElse

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I wish they'd leave things alone even when the changes have nothing to do with political correctness. I had such mixed feelings about the Matterhorn redo because the yetis were neat, but the original was far more charming. When they put the old junk vehicles into the crystal chamber as a meta reference to extinct rides, I wish they'd just left the old scene because it was charming.
Wen you say "the original (Matterhorn)", can you describe what you're referring to? I think we may be picturing two different things.
 

el_super

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I guess as a quick take, I think it's a bit of a mixed bag in the art. I like the meta humor of the gift shop idea, but the monkeys, props and gag signs are a little much. It starts to look cluttered and unfocused, and it feels like it's lacking a main character/theme. Always open to the idea that there may be more to come though.
 

Stevek

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The shop looks pretty good to me and the fact that they are continuing with the Trader Sam name gives me faith that they won't change my favorite tiki bar.
 

NobodyElse

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The 1970s redo with Jim Henson-esque yeti, glowing red eyes in the dark, a strobe light and a crystal chamber that looked like the Fortress of Solitude.

Ah. For me, the original Matterhorn looks more like this:
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While even this was a bit before my time:
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It just goes to show that perspective should be considered when we complain about changes. Somewhere out there are little kids that will only know this new version of the Jungle Cruise. Then when the next round of changes come along, they can complain that they liked "the original" better.
 

MoonRakerSCM

Well-Known Member
Trader Sam was owner and self proprietor of his own burgeoning business in the Jungle selling goods and wares to passing tourists. Disney shut down his business and he has now been demoted to running the lost and found desk under Ms. Falls' tour company... Being this change was done with political correctness forefront and center... Where's the outcry?
 

D.Silentu

Well-Known Member
I'm no fan of the chimp boat, but the souvenir stand is a change that I can live with. However, I find it interesting that Trader Sam has been shifted into this mythical figure. Does it mean that they are too timid to create a new Sam at the risk of offending someone?
The monkeys fighting over the underwear are giving me serious Compsognathus vibes.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one! I could do without them; one monkey spinning on the victrola is enough.
 

chadwpalm

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
What kinda bothers me more than the PC changes is this:

"The new scene is one of several that are interconnected and build on the original story and humor of the Jungle Cruise."

Aside from the inaccuracy that there was an "original" story and humor, I always liked that the ride was meant to be a voyage around the jungle and that the stories and jokes came later and were left up to the imaginations of the JC skippers and guests. This always allowed for the freedom to create new jokes and puns without trampling on anything "official". I'm not a JC historian and maybe I don't know all the historic details of the ride, but this has always been my perception as a casual guest.

Now Disney has taken these jokes and puns and "canonized" them, making them part of an "official" overall story that to me cheapens the work some of the skippers had done over the years to come up with funny puns and the freedom they had to play around with their own material.

Hopefully, they'll still be able to do that to an extent. Why do all the new things at Disney have to have backstories? I just want to go on a simple cruise with a funny skipper guiding me along, not some intricate story that I have to think about in order for the attraction to make sense.
 

MoonRakerSCM

Well-Known Member
Disney has taken these jokes and puns and "canonized" them, making them part of an "official" overall story that to me cheapens the work some of the skippers had done over the years to come up with funny puns and the freedom they had to play around with their own material.
Reminds me of what Disney did with Star Wars land... Instead of opening the place and letting the lore naturally develop over several years... They created their own convoluted backstories and shoved it down guests throats. It cheapens the experience and takes the magic away from the guest's mind.
 

SuddenStorm

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Reminds me of what Disney did with Star Wars land... Instead of opening the place and letting the lore naturally develop over several years... They created their own convoluted backstories and shoved it down guests throats. It cheapens the experience and takes the magic away from the guest's mind.

Tony Baxter said it best- backstory is there to inform the designers but can't be a requirement for someone to understand the attraction. If that happens, people often end up more confused.
 

raven24

Well-Known Member
This news doesn’t make me want to experience this new version of Jungle Cruise.

It is what it is. I’m not going to be too bothered about any of this. Whatever.
 

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