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EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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DonniePeverley said:
When you take into account the sheer volume of time it took to make, the reported cost of this :

This is absolutely terrible.

It does not belong in Epcot. Never ever.

Whoever greenlit this deserves to never ever be involved in a Disney project again. Quite frankly i'd put this absurdity as one of the worst value additions to any Disney park.

A sheer utter waste.
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T r O p H y 👍
 
J

J4546

Well-Known Member
DonniePeverley said:
When you take into account the sheer volume of time it took to make, the reported cost of this :

This is absolutely terrible.

It does not belong in Epcot. Never ever.

Whoever greenlit this deserves to never ever be involved in a Disney project again. Quite frankly i'd put this absurdity as one of the worst value additions to any Disney park.

A sheer utter waste.
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sorry you feel this way, most people seem to really enjoy it.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
DonniePeverley said:
When you take into account the sheer volume of time it took to make, the reported cost of this :

This is absolutely terrible.

It does not belong in Epcot. Never ever.

Whoever greenlit this deserves to never ever be involved in a Disney project again. Quite frankly i'd put this absurdity as one of the worst value additions to any Disney park.

A sheer utter waste.
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What did you think of it when you saw it in person?
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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but now seriously when they take literally years and hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new attraction do you think "Cute" is the response they were going for? "they raved about it saying it was "pleasant"...lol
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Bocabear said:
but now seriously when they take literally years and hundreds of millions of dollars to build a new attraction do you think "Cute" is the response they were going for? "they raved about it saying it was "pleasant"...lol
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TWDC spends hundreds of millions on movies that are legit BAD and that was not their intent either.

The good thing about a bad movie, after the damage is done, you can forget about it.

A bad attraction will be around for a long, long time.
 
Horizon1

Horizon1

New Member
It's a walkthrough edutainment attraction about the cycle of water, in front of the seas pavilion, I think it's a great fit, but I still haven't seen it in person, planning on a trip back to FL when the communicore plaza is open!
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I think it would have been a better fit at AK instead of randomly placed at Epcot.

It‘s a cool walkthrough but just feels out of place. I know world of nature etc but I just think a better fit would have been AK
 
Centauri Space Station

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
DonniePeverley said:
When you take into account the sheer volume of time it took to make, the reported cost of this :

This is absolutely terrible.

It does not belong in Epcot. Never ever.

Whoever greenlit this deserves to never ever be involved in a Disney project again. Quite frankly i'd put this absurdity as one of the worst value additions to any Disney park.

A sheer utter waste.
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Absolutely incorrect it builds on Epcots original edutainment purposes and adds a fun aspect for all ages. It is the most Epcot fitting addition in ages
 
osian

osian

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Centauri Space Station said:
Absolutely incorrect it builds on Epcots original edutainment purposes and adds a fun aspect for all ages. It is the most Epcot fitting addition in ages
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"Here, human achievements are celebrated through imagination, wonders of enterprise and concepts of a future that promises new and exciting benefits for all. May EPCOT Center entertain, inform and inspire and, above all, may it instill a new sense of belief and pride in man’s ability to shape a world that offers hope to people everywhere."

Not quite sure how it showcases human achievements, industry and shaping the world of the future but there you go. "Edutainment" was never the aim, the end goal. It was a way in which the aim can be achieved, which is to celebrate human achievements, enterprise, shaping the world etc. EPCOT isn't the "edutainment" park, as if there can only be one and that's where edutainment lives, Disney has always done it through edutainment. Animal Kingdom also does things through edutainment, and given the subject matter, the theme and the execution, that's probably where Journey of Water should have gone, if not Magic Kingdom.

Yes, EPCOT is changing. No official word on into exactly what, but trying to claim that JoW fits in with EPCOT's original vision is misplaced.
 
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Mireille

Mireille

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But it is part of the Nature of the World, which, while not part of the original missions statement of EPCOT Center, does fit the theme of the current World Nature. Honestly, I don't really care where it is. My first WDW trip was in 1985 or 1986... I'd been to Disneyland before, but EPCOT is what actually made me a fan of Disney Parks. I loved Horizons and Dreamfinder and World of Motion and I miss it and wish it was all still here... but it's not and there's nothing I can do to bring it back. I just like WDW and am happy when they make new things that are fun or interesting. If it had ended up in AK, I'd feel the same about it. I dunno... Disney's corporate profit maximization strategy makes it hard for anything good to ever happen and I hate it but it's not a Disney problem, it's a capitalism problem, an America problem, and corporate poopy-heads directing the world at the behest of investors problem.
 
Mireille

Mireille

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lazyboy97o said:
Disney’s Animal Kingdom is about the power and value of nature. Animals also need water to survive.
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Yeah, but to make it fit the "theme" it would need to be changed to how water impacts the animals and their environment, rather than the lifecycle of water in and of itself. They could probably salvage some of it, but I think it would be a different attraction. Not saying that's good or bad, but as is, it fits no better in AK than World Nature, other than it has lots of plants in it.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Mireille said:
Yeah, but to make it fit the "theme" it would need to be changed to how water impacts the animals and their environment, rather than the lifecycle of water in and of itself. They could probably salvage some of it, but I think it would be a different attraction. Not saying that's good or bad, but as is, it fits no better in AK than World Nature, other than it has lots of plants in it.
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Again, the value of nature is a core theme of the park. Water is part of nature.

It fits World Nature because it’s not really well defined.
 
Epcot82Guy

Epcot82Guy

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The idea of JOW works pretty well in current Epcot. Leaving aside its physical placement (it should have been an addition in the center not overtaking the entirety of a CC wing), I actually enjoy it. But, I think there is valid criticism in execution. It's trying to dance the balance between being a Moana attraction and an Epcot attraction. Some would say it dances the line well, enhancing it. Others would say it doesn't do each ok, but it succeeds on neither. Both are valid opinions to me.

I think a major issue is the new sections of World Nature feel very disjointed from World Nature itself (i.e. the Land and Seas). You have a very planted, very tropical entry now that leads to Journey of Water. Then the more corporate/modernist ascetic of Seas and The Land. I get 100% the idea that JoW fits into World Nature. But, from a design and landscaping standpoint, the idea doesn't translate to what you actually see in the park. If they redo the landscaping around The Seas and The Land to be more lush/tropical/dense in line with the new entry areas, that would change. But, JoW feels more separated from World Nature than it should.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Epcot82Guy said:
The idea of JOW works pretty well in current Epcot. Leaving aside its physical placement (it should have been an addition in the center not overtaking the entirety of a CC wing), I actually enjoy it. But, I think there is valid criticism in execution. It's trying to dance the balance between being a Moana attraction and an Epcot attraction. Some would say it dances the line well, enhancing it. Others would say it doesn't do each ok, but it succeeds on neither. Both are valid opinions to me.

I think a major issue is the new sections of World Nature feel very disjointed from World Nature itself (i.e. the Land and Seas). You have a very planted, very tropical entry now that leads to Journey of Water. Then the more corporate/modernist ascetic of Seas and The Land. I get 100% the idea that JoW fits into World Nature. But, from a design and landscaping standpoint, the idea doesn't translate to what you actually see in the park. If they redo the landscaping around The Seas and The Land to be more lush/tropical/dense in line with the new entry areas, that would change. But, JoW feels more separated from World Nature than it should.
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Its a cute walk through water play area for the kids. Kids love to play in water.

I wish they would clone it for AK but make the IP for the AK one, Avatar: The Way of Water
 

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