James Alucobond
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I feel like it's actually moving fairly quickly now? There's very obvious progress on a week-to-week basis at this point.
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Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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wbostic12
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- In the Parks
- No
I think it’s because of the new people that were working on Cosmic rewind being moved to this area. I would expect at least Moana to be opened (or ready, as we saw with Rémy) by the 40th. Unless Tron starts going at warp speed, I don’t that has a shot of being the addition for October 1, and I think EPCOT will be recognized enough for its 40th that they will want better flow through the entrance by then.
Would it make you feel better if you told us it wasn't going to happen?
lazyboy97o
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That’s not really how it works. Attractions are built by different third party contractors and sub-contractors. Disney can’t move employees from one company to another company. They’re also very different skill sets involved. Someone doing finishing work isn’t switching between that and concrete work. Even an actual Imagineering doing test and adjust for ride or show systems isn’t going to switch to doing scenic rock work. Journey of Water is just at a point where progress is very clearly visible to most anyone, which always gets people commenting about how much faster things are moving.
Bocabear
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how does this look like an edutainment offering? It looks in all art we have seen and current construction, like a water play area. Yes I love waterfalls and fountains...Shade would be nice as well...and while I try and be optimistic about it I can't shake the feeling that this will end up another "Little Mermaid's Grotto" with some splashy elements added in leading to the Moana Meet and greet... and it just feels so completely wrong for this park in every possible way.
James Alucobond
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I’m not sure how much this will edutain or how much actual interaction with the water there will be, but “water play area” and “splash pad” seem like language continually used to diminish anything this attraction might have to offer when it’s probably much more comparable to an Animal Kingdom walking trail.
Bocabear
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I think we can all agree where there is water that sprays, and you can touch it or interact with it, it is going to be a water play area... Maybe not a "Splash Pad" or "Diaper Wash"...but a water play area for sure... So while that language may be diminishing to what it will be, I also dislike language that makes it seem like it will be some lofty old EPCOT edutainment pavilion... If it is just landscaping and fountains with a play or interactive element so be it, but unless there is some completely major hidden component we don't know about yet, I have trouble thinking it is going to be an edutainment experience... Especially if there will be a Meet & Greet component...
James Alucobond
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I don’t see people here using lofty language, forthcoming Zach Instagrammery notwithstanding. The suggestion is that the content may be somewhat comparable to what was in the space before, with light science museum-level interaction and tangential educational elements. I don’t really count Innoventions among the great pavilions of olde, so I don’t see it as a particularly high bar to clear in order to compare, even if their goal should have been to outdo rather than make a lateral move that cuts on AC costs.
GimpYancIent
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Jeez, soooo much interpretation and analysis. The "Splash Pad" analogy is kind of simplistic, ha, ha, ha the caveat to the descriptor should be Elaborately Themed Splash Pad.
Bocabear
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Wait, it's about cutting down AC costs? lol
I agree innoventions was not an amazing offering especially the last decade where it was just lost... Tearing down 100k sqft building which was large enough to hold multiple attractions (real attractions) and the destruction of the main framework of the park doesn't even seem lateral, but a backward slide... Again, I am hopeful that whatever this ends up being will be nice, but I don't hold high hopes...
Innoventions was only dated and lame because TDO allowed it to become so... not because of any other reason... Obviously Moana Journey Of Water will be better than a closed empty building... like Play! will be better than a closed empty building, but will these additions be better than what they were?
UNCgolf
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Based on the designs we've seen, a meet and greet seems impossible. I don't think there's room to have people line up for a Moana meet and greet and also allow other people to walk through the area.
Unless the whole area is just the queue for a meet and greet, but I think they'd have been very happy to announce it was a Moana meet and greet instead of calling it something inspired by Moana.
Unless the whole area is just the queue for a meet and greet, but I think they'd have been very happy to announce it was a Moana meet and greet instead of calling it something inspired by Moana.
Bocabear
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Innoventions was a pretty massive building, so yeah, it is going to be waaaay shorter. I think there is one taller piece which hasn't started taking shape yet, the large logo waterfall. Hopefully it will be much larger than what we have seen as it is the main focal point.
Innoventions buildings were at least two stories in height, though they never separated it that way... I would venture the ceiling height was probably 30' plus... The scale of the park was massive as opposed to Magic Kingdom which was smaller to appear quaint and charming.
Innoventions buildings were at least two stories in height, though they never separated it that way... I would venture the ceiling height was probably 30' plus... The scale of the park was massive as opposed to Magic Kingdom which was smaller to appear quaint and charming.
James Alucobond
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Incomudro
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No, we can't all agree on that.
Bocabear
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Then you have not been to the parks when I have and seen people playing in the leap-frog fountains etc... They were designed for play, they are water... hence a water play area... I didn't say it was a swimming pool.
wbostic12
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- In the Parks
- No
It’s got to be different passageways just for exploration, right? Unless they think that their park capacity problem is so big that this would help.
James Alucobond
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This is deep into the attraction. I can’t imagine there being any sort of queue here. As you said, these are likely just separate explorable caverns that pass under the main waterfall. There are already several areas “off the main track”, as it were, including an alcove of rain falls behind the Heart of Te Fiti and the leaping fountain passage that runs parallel to the largest of the canopies.