James Alucobond
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Yeah, it’s pretty hard to be worse than an industrial wasteland. Even if this is a total bust content-wise, it’ll be attractive space to walk through, which is kinda 40% of EPCOT anyway.
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Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot
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Disstevefan1
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No drama, just an individual's opinion, I think that's still allowed on these boards, lol
Disstevefan1
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True, the barges are so ugly and you can't avoid them!!! I can at least avoid Moana.
OK the barges are the worst thing. Moana is just a waste of time, money and theme park space...
Vegas Disney Fan
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Have you seen concept artwork? We’ve been looking for any clues of what it’s going to look like.
Disstevefan1
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My issue is this does not belong in EPCOT, it seems to me it would fit better in Animal Kingdom.
If feels like when they were deciding what to put in EPCOT, they had all the possibilities on a dart board, put on a blindfold and threw a dart to decide.
And what are they doing in the Moana dirt pile? Every time I see photos, it looks worse, not better, like they are working in reverse!
Are they secretly fixing a sinkhole?
At this point i am just looking forward to the walls coming down no matter what we end up with.
A Journey of Water leading to The Seas isn't thematic?
Would that every "Future World" pavilion had such a well-developed thematic frontage other than 'nice landscaping.'
Disstevefan1
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The original Living Seas really had that Edutainment vibe. That went away when nemo moved in so we really have no choice but to rationalize Moana is somehow frontage to Nemo.
I must say, there is nothing better than stepping into The Nemo building on a hot day - fabulous!
Unless they have cranked down the AC due to COVID. Every cost saving move they make for the next 10 years will be blamed on COVID..
Vegas Disney Fan
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I was thinking more of an overview rather than one scene, they’ve been so quiet on this I can’t figure what it’s going to be, the Epcot artwork made it look like a few tree lined trails with streams and a few waterfalls but the amount of infrastructure, metal, and concrete going in seems much larger in scale.
I don’t think anyone, other than the designers and builders, have any idea what we’re ultimately getting.
Bocabear
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I would have been more on board with this if it didn't jut out into the core...Like the first thing you see after passing under Spaceship Earth's magnificent theme building is Moana Whatever it is and don't call it a splashpad thing... Like this amazing futurist building followed by a Polynesian waterfall garden not-a-play-structure-thing...It would be gorgeous in the Animal Kingdom...but it doesn't seem to fit the park...especially at that particular location... but I guess we will see what we get...
WDWJoeG
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An addition like this shows there is no vision and all of the hip Imagineers wearing retro Epcot t-shirts trying to convince us "they get it" isn't helping.
No Name
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It’ll be done by summerLooks like this could be done by summer...I mean how much longer can it take?
…2023
(this is not a joke)
BrianLo
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Pshh, get with the times. The Guardians ship stand is the worst thing in Epcot. Soon to be replaced by Connections Cafe.
Harmonious is one popcorn bucket (and a CEO) away from being a classic.
Casper Gutman
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How far away will this be from Seas? How does a Moana attraction segue into a Nemo ride? From a design perspective, how does it make sense that Seas has a “lead in” landscape feature that stretches to the core when every other Future World pavilion is largely self-contained?
The Seas line reeks of post hoc justification, and the Moana rocks seem like lonely remnants of some earlier, more ambitious plan (which we know they are, but I’m talking about some OTHER, more coherent plan).
GladToBeHear
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This was my thought as well.
Disstevefan1
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Agreed, there are so many bad things happening in EPCOT it's difficult to try to rank them..
Bocabear
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If it had been at least pushed back and was the lead-in from The Land, it would make more sense...but not extending all the way into the hub...Which is not just going to be grass and a statue of Walt.... and an event lawn. I don't understand the vision... or even if there is one anymore....
Disstevefan1
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I think the designers had a design then the accountants made their cost saving cuts and no one really knows what we will end up with so there is literally no renderings of what we will end of with because no one knows.
Whatever it is, there looks to be a lot of work going on; a lot of holes and dirt piles. It really looks like 90 percent of the work is infrastructure and the remaining 10 percent is what we will see above ground level.
My expectations are extremely low so whatever we get will seen acceptable.
Trying to keep IP out of EPCOT is not a losing battle. It's an already-lost one.
At least the Journey of Water has the hope of being the edutainment version of The Water Cycle we all learned in 5th grade Earth Science. And it's next to The Seas, which already has its IP in the form of Nemo.
RSoxNo1
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I'm expecting green and blue space. This is fundamentally a good thing.