Is this really a thing or is it April 1ST? Cabanas in the parks.

[MrHappy]

I feel you may be in line for some criticism for comparing a waterpark to a theme park ... just sayin

Thanks for the heads-up I know this thread is a little testy at the moment, but I'm just curious. Yes, MK is sacred ground compared to the water park. But the theory is the same.

BTW: I just hate it when I bump into the cabana's guest's Butler fanning his employer from the walk way, otherwise, it fits within the environment nicely.

 

[jakeman]

Thanks for the heads-up I know this thread is a little testy a the moment, but I'm just curious. Yes, MK is sacred ground compared to the water park. But the theory is the same.

BTW: I just hate it when I bump into the cabana's guest's Butler fanning his employer from the walk way, otherwise, it fits within the environment nicely.

It's not really testy as it is bat-guano crazy right now.

 

[MrHappy]

Remember back in the 'Good Eisner' era TS dining had probably 2x the number of available tables than we do today and remarkably they STILL made a profit even though crowd levels were half of those seen today.

Is this true? Hard to tell with TS restaurants like San Angel and Le Cellier where the common complaint is that tables are too closely packed in. Not looking to start something, just wondering if your post is factual. Interesting if true. Thanks ford.

 

[jakeman]

Is this true? Hard to tell with TS restaurants like San Angel and Le Cellier where the common complaint is that tables are too closely packed in. Not looking to start something, just wondering if your post is factual. Interesting if true. Thanks ford.

Impossible to verify, but based on his posting history it is safe to say that it is more than likely fabricated.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I'll just have to suffer the ignominy of disapproval stemming from your moral superiority....

Might as well. It's here to stay. There is a way to fix that though, just respond with a counter argument and not try and make it into something that doesn't have any meaning, then you won't conjure up any disapproval. And we will all live happily every after.

 

[wm49rs]

Might as well. It's here to stay. There is a way to fix that though, just respond with a counter argument and not try and make it into something that doesn't have any meaning, then you won't conjure up any disapproval. And we will all live happily every after.

Or, I'll just keep doing as I will.

 

[ford91exploder]

Is this true? Hard to tell with TS restaurants like San Angel and Le Cellier where the common complaint is that tables are too closely packed in. Not looking to start something, just wondering if your post is factual. Interesting if true. Thanks ford.

EPCOT has jammed many of the 'popular' restaurants full to the gills but many less popular venues have had tables taken away or no longer take walk ups so it's difficult to determine the actual capacity

Lots of Closed TS restaurants in WDW these days, I don't have a complete list and I really have not paid attention
a couple of biggies for you though.

Odessey which is now used for convention space in EPCOT it's that hexagonal building by the koi pond
Diamond Horseshoe in MK

Skipper Canteen was closed for almost 20 years till it reopened this year.

I could go on

 

[Goofyernmost]

That's the crazy thing. I remember loving the show as a child.. haven't seen it in 20+ years now, but I definitely don't remember thinking "oh wow. women are so different now".

Well, they are and it was a hard earned battle. I have two daughters and two granddaughters and I cringe when I hear the narrow minded people talk about how women belong barefoot and pregnant. Women have come a long way, and they still have a distance to go, but, it is a good thing that a show like CoP exists, because that is the way it was, and it is important to see that things have changed even if it isn't enough yet. To many people see it as a one solution situation when all it requires is that ability to chose what direction to take in life, not be told what one's roll is. We can all live in harmony if we just try even a tiny bit.

Many were upset that we didn't get a female head of state, but, we must remember that it was less then two decades ago that even having the chance was denied. When one looks at the actual outcome, it really did happen at least in reality, if not politically. No one would have believed it years ago and as soon as the "pigs" die off, it may have a chance again, maybe even before I wander off this mortal coil.

 

[jakeman]

EPCOT has jammed many of the 'popular' restaurants full to the gills but many less popular venues have had tables taken away or no longer take walk ups so it's difficult to determine the actual capacity

Lots of Closed TS restaurants in WDW these days, I don't have a complete list and I really have not paid attention
a couple of biggies for you though.

Odessey which is now used for convention space in EPCOT it's that hexagonal building by the koi pond
Diamond Horseshoe in MK

Skipper Canteen was closed for almost 20 years till it reopened this year.

I could go on

You are postulating that Disney has less than half the table service capacity than it did 20 years ago. You're going to need to provide more evidence than two restaurants and a blithe "I don't pay attention".

 

[Goofyernmost]

Or, I'll just keep doing as I will.

Who am I to stop you... go for it if it doesn't matter how others see you. That's the way I am, no reason for me to do anything other then point something out when I think it is really a whole lot of words with no meaning.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I like to iron! Is something wrong with me???? I like doing laundry too. oh well..............................

Nothing at all. But, you should be free to chose without someone saying you don't belong no matter which one you chose. It isn't a put down it is an attempt at broadening ones possibilities based on ability and not on gender.

 

[MrHappy]

You are postulating that Disney has less than half the table service capacity than it did 20 years ago. You're going to need to provide more evidence than two restaurants and a blithe "I don't pay attention".

Mehhh, I'm clearing ford on this. His statement was based on a different perspective than what I had in mind. His is basically there's less seats now than the mid-90s. Which I guess is valid. There's also been openings and more planned openings since '94. Not enough for me to consider it a hard-business-driven-conspiracy, but I appreciate the passion!

 

[jakeman]

Mehhh, I'm clearing ford on this. His statement was based on a different perspective than what I had in mind. His is basically there's less seats now than the mid-90s. Which I guess is valid. There's also been openings and more planned openings since '94. Not enough for me to consider it a hard-business-driven-conspiracy, but I appreciate the passion!

You probably shouldn't give him that pass. While folks can delve into hyperbole rather easily here (I don't claim I'm immune to its siren song either), @ford91exploder knowingly and willfully lies in most of his postings.

 

[wdisney9000]

You probably shouldn't give him that pass. While folks can delve into hyperbole rather easily here (I don't claim I'm immune to its siren song either), @ford91exploder knowingly and willfully lies in most of his postings.

I enjoy the balance that Ford brings. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says, but the pendulum for doom vs pixie duster swings very far on both sides here.

And by "both sides" I'm not referring to any sexual orientation.... and by "swings", I'm not isolating or highlighting any particular lifestyle or belief system, and by "pendulum", I'm not assigning any distinctly recognized gender to any or all clocks with a pendulum.

Hope the warriors of justice are satisfied that my answer is nuetral, equal and fair to all species.

 

[NearTheEars]

You know, I should stay out of this, but, it is getting so old that something needs to be said. This constant implication that Siren is a WDW employee, is so completely irrelevant and really nothing more then a diversionary statement to avoid justifying your own stand. The OT comment was cute, but, seriously unfunny and useless. A person, employee or not, has a right to their opinion and the right to comment on stuff that is equally over the top except in the other direction. They could start arguing your points by saying that you need to hurry before you're late for your shift at Universal. Two can play those games. It is childish and as insulting as perhaps saying that you need to get to the Dumpster behind IHop before all the good stuff is gone and you have to miss breakfast.

It is impossible to have adult discussions with factual interchange if not everyone is an adult. Why not try taking the high road or just not responding. Remember it is better to remain quiet and be thought the fool then to speak out and erase all doubt.

Not worth fighting. I've tried twice, but @Siren and @wm49rs appear to have a beef that extends beyond this board and it's not going to change.

 

[spacemt354]

EPCOT has jammed many of the 'popular' restaurants full to the gills but many less popular venues have had tables taken away or no longer take walk ups so it's difficult to determine the actual capacity

Lots of Closed TS restaurants in WDW these days, I don't have a complete list and I really have not paid attention
a couple of biggies for you though.

Odessey which is now used for convention space in EPCOT it's that hexagonal building by the koi pond
Diamond Horseshoe in MK

Skipper Canteen was closed for almost 20 years till it reopened this year.

I could go on

The onus is on you to provide the facts since you're the one making the claim.

You say there's lots of closed TS restaurants then name one that just reopened in the same post. Not to mention all of the Disney Springs dining that opened this year.

 

[jakeman]

I enjoy the balance that Ford brings. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says, but the pendulum for doom vs pixie duster swings very far on both sides here.

The only balance that @ford91exploder is that he balances facts that others bring to the table with his own lies.

If that's the kind of discourse you want to have here then have at it. Personally, I get enough of that in the real world nowadays

 

[tirian]

LOL. You complain about the tents, Avatarland, Toy Storyland, Rivers of Light, Disney Springs, etc. Where does it end? When is it time to move on?

I didn't complain about any of that except the Home Depot tents.

Edit: And I might as well point out I was a CM for years, and I'm now a creative director at a huge agency in Texas, so any opinion I have is based on being a creative industry professional.

 

[BrerJon]

Is this true? Hard to tell with TS restaurants like San Angel and Le Cellier where the common complaint is that tables are too closely packed in. Not looking to start something, just wondering if your post is factual. Interesting if true. Thanks ford.

I don't know about TS but the trend at QS has definitely been to pack people in like sardines and reduce offerings.

In the 90s there were more QS restaurants - Adventureland Veranda in MK, Odyssey in EPCOT for example.. closing them down meant the remaining ones became more crowded, or people were pushed to higher priced table service restaurants, and staffing levels could be far lower.

Then there's places like Tomorrowland Terrace that became seasonal at first, then open two or three days a year if that, so there's definitely been a big reduction in casual dining facilities.

 

[21stamps]

I just got back from 2nd time at MK. Didn't see the tents this time either.