Is this really a service dog?

[StarWarsGirl]

I seriously doubt it. When my kids were in grade school some years we would get notes from the teachers that a class couldn't have peanuts or peanut products because someone was deathly allergic. We still gave out kid peanut butter sandwiches and not once did any kid have any reaction. For someone to have an allergic reaction to a peanut they need to get the peanut protein into their bodies. Even the smell of peanuts is harmless to people that are allergic because the protein isn't in the scent of the peanut. To many parents of these "allergic" kids seem to have no idea of what the allergy is, nor do they seem to really care about fixing it because there are treatments for the allergy and you would think if you had a kid that was deathly allergic to something and you could cure it that you would.

I used to buy into that lie too. One day, when I was a teenager, I decided it would be fine if I made my brother a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if I wore gloves. After two benadryl, some claratin, and a very nice nap, I figured out I was WRONG! And my parents started buying Uncrustables after that for my brother and have not kept peanut butter in the house since then.

Just believe people when they tell you they have an allergy. It's not pleasant for us to have to ask others for something, but in the end, we're doing it to protect ourselves.

 

[RickyM]

If you would like for me to explain...

Hello to those that think that My Mother's service animal may be a fake, SHE is not a fake, we have Doctors letters to training records. Even though I don't have to explain myself, I'm still going to so... We carry Vet records and my mother's Doctor letter with us every where we go. Nana Darling has been going to Disney World with us for over a year and half now. Yes I personally trained her with a help of a professional dog trainer from the age of 3 months old, which she will be 4 years old next week. I have followed every ADA law. She alerts to PTSD and COPD attacks and task of DPT aka Deep pressure therapy. She has saved my mother's life more then you would think she could and faster then I could so myself. Nana does hold her potty thank you very much, and for the sand video, she went potty in the grass before hand and even left alone the rabbit next to her the whole time. I also clean up after Nana after every time she goes potty unlike some other SD handlers do at the parks. They even have doggy potty bags at guest relations if you forgot yours.

Yes there are A LOT of fakes at the park. we go to the parks about 1 to 3 times a week. Just the other day at EPCOT there was an ESA vested as a ESA barking at Nana over and over again, making it unavoidable no matter how far we got into the park, I had to tell a CM to get security.

Nana Darling has been poke, petted, kicked, finger snapped at, barked at, and even almost attacked by another Dog at WDW. Yes I don't like how Disney has opened its doors to resort guest to allow dogs to stay at the hotels. Even though by Disney Rules, they have to be crated in side the room, they can still bark unsupervised. Good luck to the people trying to take a nap because I know that would tick me off with uncontrolled barking.

Most SD handlers can tell by body language and commends if its a real service dog, but because of a less then 2 min video of my dog seeing sand for the very first time in her life, you had to really make a post about it? I personally invite you to spend a day with us if you would like to get to know us.

https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html

People always find things to complain about. People act like they never see a dog outside Disney ... my biggest problem when I see a dog at Disney is I can’t pet those sweet babies! Lol.

 

[21stamps]

I can see it both ways, as both an animal lover and someone with allergies.

On one hand, you've got animals who need to travel, like service dogs and such (someone I know has a cat that she keeps at college with her because of her severe depression, so she flies with her cat).

On the other hand, allergic reactions are not good either.

I think a good compromise would be to have certain flights that are pet-free and some that are not. Allergy sufferers can avoid the flights with pets. Believe me, we won't mind. I hate inconveniencing others because of my allergies, especially over something like food that normally wouldn't be an issue.

I would be completely fine with and willing to do that... Although I still think that a good number of ‘dog’ allergy sufferers would have a worse reaction sitting next to someone who just left their German Shepherd at home, than they would from a Yorkie, Maltese, or Toy Poodle in an underseat carrier a few rows away. However, I do think accommodations should be made to help the person with allergies. I don’t think (most) dog owners want to cause a nuisance or any kind of pain to anyone else.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I would be completely fine with and willing to do that... Although I still think that a good number of ‘dog’ allergy sufferers would have a worse reaction sitting next to someone who just left their German Shepherd at home, than they would from a Yorkie, Maltese, or Toy Poodle in an underseat carrier a few rows away. However, I do think accommodations should be made to help the person with allergies. I don’t think (most) dog owners want to cause a nuisance or any kind of pain to anyone else.

I can't speak to that since pets are the thing I'm not allergic to (thank goodness) but I'm not entirely certain that would be the case. Call it gut instinct from being allergic to basically everything else, but I don't see a little bit of animal dandruff on someone's shirt causing an issue. Whereas the actual pet on board I think would cause an issue, regardless of breed. Some breeds are obviously going to be more of an issue that others due to how much they shed.

 

[thomas998]

Um...as someone with a peanut allergy, I find the fact that you disregard the announcement very disturbing.

First off, an airplane is a giant floating box. Under normal circumstances, you would be able to get away from an irritant, but on an airplane, you're stuck.

Second, if someone does have a reaction that requires an Epi Pen, then they have to go to the ER. That means the plane has to land, delaying the flight for everyone and causing backups down the line. Not to mention the person could potentially DIE.

I am not normally as obsessive about my peanut allergy, but the knowledge that if I were to have a reaction, I'd inconvenience everyone on board means I tell the airline about my allergy, and there's no peanuts on the plane.

How about just enjoying your peanuts after the flight instead of potentially putting someone at risk and inconveniencing everyone, including yourself?

The better question is why don't you get your allergy treated. Or do you simply prefer to ignore your own problem and seek to force everyone around you to change for you? You seem to think it is better to inconvenience everyone on a plane instead of you treating your own problem... how do you justify that?

 

[thomas998]

I used to buy into that lie too. One day, when I was a teenager, I decided it would be fine if I made my brother a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if I wore gloves. After two benadryl, some claratin, and a very nice nap, I figured out I was WRONG! And my parents started buying Uncrustables after that for my brother and have not kept peanut butter in the house since then.

Just believe people when they tell you they have an allergy. It's not pleasant for us to have to ask others for something, but in the end, we're doing it to protect ourselves.

The smell does wasn't the trigger. The only way you could have had any reaction would be if you ate of the protein or wiped it in your eyes which is probably what you did. Most likely you thought because you wore glove you didn't need to wash your hands, when the reality is you didn't need gloves at all as the allergic reaction wouldn't happen from skin contact some of the peanut protein needs to enter your body which is only possible if you snorted the peanut butter, ate it, or had some on something you touched and then rubbed your eyes.

 

[correcaminos]

The better question is why don't you get your allergy treated. Or do you simply prefer to ignore your own problem and seek to force everyone around you to change for you? You seem to think it is better to inconvenience everyone on a plane instead of you treating your own problem... how do you justify that?

I'm confused - get an allergy treated?

 

[21stamps]

I can't speak to that since pets are the thing I'm not allergic to (thank goodness) but I'm not entirely certain that would be the case. Call it gut instinct from being allergic to basically everything else, but I don't see a little bit of animal dandruff on someone's shirt causing an issue. Whereas the actual pet on board I think would cause an issue, regardless of breed. Some breeds are obviously going to be more of an issue that others due to how much they shed.

Maybe, I’ve just never seen anyone sniffing, or complaining while on a flight near me..But I guess it could happen. I did have a flight attendant flip out once when my dog was a puppy..he somehow wrapped his leg around the leash in the carrier, I had to open it to take him out and fix it, then put him back in. She saw me and said “Dogs must remain under the seat inside the carrier!” I explained what I was doing and why, and she stood there repeating herself. I’m glad it was in 2007 and not today, I may have been kicked off the flight.

The better question is why don't you get your allergy treated. Or do you simply prefer to ignore your own problem and seek to force everyone around you to change for you? You seem to think it is better to inconvenience everyone on a plane instead of you treating your own problem... how do you justify that?

StarWarsGirl literally wrote that she does treat her allergies and that she take precautions. Sounds responsible to me, nothing to ‘justify’ there.

 

[xdan0920]

The smell does wasn't the trigger. The only way you could have had any reaction would be if you ate of the protein or wiped it in your eyes which is probably what you did. Most likely you thought because you wore glove you didn't need to wash your hands, when the reality is you didn't need gloves at all as the allergic reaction wouldn't happen from skin contact some of the peanut protein needs to enter your body which is only possible if you snorted the peanut butter, ate it, or had some on something you touched and then rubbed your eyes.

Hey Doc, what Med school did you attend?

 

[StarWarsGirl]

The better question is why don't you get your allergy treated. Or do you simply prefer to ignore your own problem and seek to force everyone around you to change for you? You seem to think it is better to inconvenience everyone on a plane instead of you treating your own problem... how do you justify that?

Yeah, because the five years of allergy shots, the two trips to the allergist every year, the allergy pill that I take every morning, the epi pen I carry for emergencies...I'm definitely not treating my allergies, am I?

Besides, if I were to have an emergency and ground the plane, isn't that way more inconvenient than just having everyone eat pretzels on the plane?

The better question for you would be when someone asks you not to do something simple like not eat peanuts on a plane why you ignore that and put someone at risk.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

The smell does wasn't the trigger. The only way you could have had any reaction would be if you ate of the protein or wiped it in your eyes which is probably what you did. Most likely you thought because you wore glove you didn't need to wash your hands, when the reality is you didn't need gloves at all as the allergic reaction wouldn't happen from skin contact some of the peanut protein needs to enter your body which is only possible if you snorted the peanut butter, ate it, or had some on something you touched and then rubbed your eyes.

Why thank you for explaining my own allergy to me. I've already had a professional tell me differently, not to mention I've been allergic for over ten years now and know exactly how I react, but thank you for your kind explanation. You clearly know more than both me and my doctor.

 

[21stamps]

Yeah, because the five years of allergy shots, the two trips to the allergist every year, the allergy pill that I take every morning, the epi pen I carry for emergencies...I'm definitely not treating my allergies, am I?

Besides, if I were to have an emergency and ground the plane, isn't that way more inconvenient than just having everyone eat pretzels on the plane?

The better question for you would be when someone asks you not to do something simple like not eat peanuts on a plane why you ignore that and put someone at risk.

I think some people should ask themselves how they justify something, rather than asking someone else.

Peanuts in the face of someone allergic.. and yet lie to the airlines that you’re allergic to a dog so you can risk the dog’s life in the cargo hold.

I’m kind of hoping that he’s purposely joking.

 

[Club34]

It is dangerous for a lot of dogs to be in the cargo area. It’s cruel to even say that. Many small dogs are hypoallergenic.. so that makes the ‘allergy’ claims even more ridiculous.

Even the ones who aren’t hypoallergenic- they’re in a carrier, not sitting on the passengers lap.

I’m sorry, but your comment could be one of the most selfish things that I’ve read here. Don’t like dogs? Fine. But omg, seriously, to talk about banning them from an airplane cabin by lying about allergies does what? Give a person satisfaction that they are causing pain to an animal? A dog is not a peanut, it’s a living thing.

There are no such things as hypoallergenic dogs. If it is a living thing, it has hair and dander.

 

[21stamps]

I’ve commented a lot in this thread, there’s just way too much misinformation to ignore.

Here’s what we could “all” do to make things easier on everyone-

1. Follow Rules.
Don’t lie about a service dog or ESA dog to gain entry somewhere or a free flight for said dog.

2. Leave dog owners alone., the one’s who actually do pay for their pets to travel. You don’t have any validation in criticizing them for doing something that they are allowed to do.

3. If you are allergic to dogs- ask about it before boarding, ask to sit far away from one, or take medication. Don’t try to harm the dog and their owner for simply following correct procedures.

4. If you’re traveling with a dog in a carrier and someone tells you they’re allergic- work it out with the person where one of you will move.

It’s not that difficult to follow any of these 4 scenarios.

 

[21stamps]

There are no such things as hypoallergenic dogs. If it is a living thing, it has hair and dander.

Correct, they aren’t truly allergen free.. but there is a difference between breeds. Especially ones who don’t shed, don’t have fur, and tend to have higher grooming needs- which is the majority of non-service-dogs/non-ESA dogs who will be in the passenger cabin of a plane.

 

[xdan0920]

I’ve commented a lot in this thread, there’s just way too much misinformation to ignore.

Here’s what we could “all” do to make things easier on everyone-

1. Follow Rules.
Don’t lie about a service dog or ESA dog to gain entry somewhere or a free flight for said dog.

2. Leave dog owners alone., the one’s who actually do pay for their pets to travel. You don’t have any validation in criticizing them for doing something that they are allowed to do.

3. If you are allergic to dogs- ask about it before boarding, ask to sit far away from one, or take medication. Don’t try to harm the dog and their owner for simply following correct procedures.

4. If you’re traveling with a dog in a carrier and someone tells you they’re allergic- work it out with the person where one of you will move.

It’s not that difficult to follow any of these 4 scenarios.

Here is the simplest thing you missed.

Leave your child dog home.

Dog parents owners have been bullying their way into to non-dog areas way too much lately.

 

[21stamps]

Here is the simplest thing you missed.

Leave your child dog home.

Dog parents owners have been bullying their way into to non-dog areas way too much lately.

No, what you’re seeing is people abusing systems that aren’t supposed to be abused.. small dogs have been allowed on planes(in a carrier) for many years. Small dogs have been allowed in a lot of hotels, for many years now.

The only thing that has changed is the abuse.. and also the the uncalled for lashing out at all dogs/dog owners because people see the abuse and paint a blanket picture of all owners/dogs. Legit dog owners hate the abuse too.. you think we enjoy paying $250 for our dog in our supposed-to-be-free carry on , while watching some idiot lie about their Yorkie being an Emotional Support Animal and therefore having the dog travel for free. It’s infuriating.. but it’s not the majority of dog owners who are doing this...and that abuse isn’t restricted to dogs. Your frustration lies with the government if it was channeled correctly..the lax rules on “ESA” and “Service Dogs”.

Edited to add- The other thing that has changed “lately” is the ‘I DON’T LIKE IT SO YOU CAN NO LONGER DO IT!’ mentality. Rid the world of anything that ‘you’ don’t like..because seeing anything that ‘you’ don’t like would be completely unacceptable.

 

[wdisney9000]

It could quite possible be a Emotional Support Service Dog.

As a professional dog trainer (who trains real service K9's), I can tell you there is no such thing as an Emotional Support Service dog. They are two COMPLETELY different type of dogs. ESA (Emotional Support Animal) does not require any training and does not have the same legal access that a true Service K9 is allowed. The ADA governs the guidelines for Service Animals and their website has the explicit rules for both.

 

[xdan0920]

No, what you’re seeing is people abusing systems that aren’t supposed to be abused.. small dogs have been allowed on planes(in a carrier) for many years. Small dogs have been allowed in a lot of hotels, for many years now.

The only thing that has changed is the abuse.. and also the the uncalled for lashing out at all dogs/dog owners because people see the abuse and paint a blanket picture of all owners/dogs. Legit dog owners hate the abuse too.. you think we enjoy paying $250 for our dog in our supposed-to-be-free carry on , while watching some idiot lie about their Yorkie being an Emotional Support Animal and therefore having the dog travel for free. It’s infuriating.. but it’s not the majority of dog owners who are doing this...and that abuse isn’t restricted to dogs. Your frustration lies with the government if it was channeled correctly..the lax rules on “ESA” and “Service Dogs”.

Edited to add- The other thing that has changed “lately” is the ‘I DON’T LIKE IT SO YOU CAN NO LONGER DO IT!’ mentality. Rid the world of anything that ‘you’ don’t like..because seeing anything that ‘you’ don’t like would be completely acceptable.

You whinging about abuse and cheating systems makes me laugh 100 out of 100 times.

 

[wdisney9000]

Emotional support animals, also known as ..... pets

When I pet my cat, I feel better. That makes it an Emotional Support cat. When I have my gun in car for protection, I feel more safe which makes it an Emotional Support Gun. When I ride my motorcycle, I feel great, which makes it an Emotional Support Motorcycle. The difference is that I dont need my cat, gun or motorcycle inside WDW.