Is this really a service dog?

[jloucks]

Where does a dog relieve itself when in the passenger cabin of an airline?
The rest of the human passengers have to deal with that.

Not trying to be snarky, but "exactly where their handler tells them to".

Owners of legit service dogs, or shoot, smart owners of normal pet dogs, can and do manage the intake of food and liquid before going into a long no-break scenario.

That being said, longer than 8 hours gets dicey.

 

[jloucks]

Soon, there'll be more ECVs and service animals than people strollin' right down the middle of Main Street USA.

And crazy sugared up kids. And feral cats.

 

[HouCuseChickie]

There are a few things about this dog that makes me think it is probably legit.

• Right size
• Realistic (but uncommon) Breed
• shoes
• Handle

I wasn't so much questioning the larger ones, but I've just never seen an assembly of poodles in France before...and was trying to figure out why, since it seemed to involve CMs. Oh well. May never know.

 

[21stamps]

Soon, there'll be more ECVs and service animals than people strollin' right down the middle of Main Street USA.

At this point I may choose the animals over people.

 

[correcaminos]

I would have been kicked off the plane if I was that woman.. no way would I have put my dog in that bin. It was was a heartbreaking story though.

I would have eaten the fare or something myself. There is no way I would have ever done that. Disgusting and so sad

Soon, there'll be more ECVs and service animals than people strollin' right down the middle of Main Street USA.

ECVs are a real pain though. Those who think there is a ton of abuse in that haven't toured a park with it. Someone would do it for one day and be done. While I love my aunt dearly, I hated park touring with her because of it. Nothing is easy or quick in one of those.

 

[jloucks]

At this point I may choose the animals over people.

 

[larryz]

I wasn't so much questioning the larger ones, but I've just never seen an assembly of poodles in France before...and was trying to figure out why, since it seemed to involve CMs. Oh well. May never know.

Weird Al did a song called Genius In France.

That song was on his Poodle Hat album...

1+1=2.

 

[EOD K9]

Weird Al did a song called Genius In France.

That song was on his Poodle Hat album...

1+1=2.

Australian Poodles look like full Poodles and are pretty big. As I said, the service dog I saw was genuine and was an Aussie Poodle.

 

[JIMINYCR]

This is one of the many reasons why I think it should be illegal to self train.

And you are very correct in everything you said. ..suspiciously accurate. Betting you are a trainer or owner?

I was a Guide Dog trainer and service dog trainer for many years, and my DW has a service dog from CCI. This is her second dog, we self trained her first one. I am a professional trainer with almost 45 years experience, having worked dogs in almost every field of training.
I am torn between self training owners, having seen many do an excellent job with the proper guidance .. but have also seen some horrible examples of owner trained dogs that dont come close to being trained properly. Unfortunately the fed. gov. hasnt set down strict enough guidelines on who can and cant train dogs and there are many incompetent trainers scamming people because of the high demand of people applying to real service dog schools.

 

[joejccva71]

I was a Guide Dog trainer and service dog trainer for many years, and my DW has a service dog from CCI. This is her second dog, we self trained her first one. I am a professional trainer with almost 45 years experience, having worked dogs in almost every field of training.
I am torn between self training owners, having seen many do an excellent job with the proper guidance .. but have also seen some horrible examples of owner trained dogs that dont come close to being trained properly. Unfortunately the fed. gov. hasnt set down strict enough guidelines on who can and cant train dogs and there are many incompetent trainers scamming people because of the high demand of people applying to real service dog schools.

Sounds like you guys have a great deal of experience and knowledge. What is your opinion on the video on first page?

 

[Incomudro]

Not trying to be snarky, but "exactly where their handler tells them to".

Owners of legit service dogs, or shoot, smart owners of normal pet dogs, can and do manage the intake of food and liquid before going into a long no-break scenario.

That being said, longer than 8 hours gets dicey.

In the carrier in the passenger compartment?
Remember, I'm not talking about service dogs here.

 

[21stamps]

In the carrier in the passenger compartment?
Remember, I'm not talking about service dogs here.

Do you know that ‘service dogs’ are dogs who have been trained to do specific commands/tasks/awareness.. they’re still dogs. Dog Pets can also be trained to do many things, the most essential of which is- potty training.

 

[DisneyRoyalPaws]

If you would like for me to explain...

Hello to those that think that My Mother's service animal may be a fake, SHE is not a fake, we have Doctors letters to training records. Even though I don't have to explain myself, I'm still going to so... We carry Vet records and my mother's Doctor letter with us every where we go. Nana Darling has been going to Disney World with us for over a year and half now. Yes I personally trained her with a help of a professional dog trainer from the age of 3 months old, which she will be 4 years old next week. I have followed every ADA law. She alerts to PTSD and COPD attacks and task of DPT aka Deep pressure therapy. She has saved my mother's life more then you would think she could and faster then I could so myself. Nana does hold her potty thank you very much, and for the sand video, she went potty in the grass before hand and even left alone the rabbit next to her the whole time. I also clean up after Nana after every time she goes potty unlike some other SD handlers do at the parks. They even have doggy potty bags at guest relations if you forgot yours.

Yes there are A LOT of fakes at the park. we go to the parks about 1 to 3 times a week. Just the other day at EPCOT there was an ESA vested as a ESA barking at Nana over and over again, making it unavoidable no matter how far we got into the park, I had to tell a CM to get security.

Nana Darling has been poke, petted, kicked, finger snapped at, barked at, and even almost attacked by another Dog at WDW. Yes I don't like how Disney has opened its doors to resort guest to allow dogs to stay at the hotels. Even though by Disney Rules, they have to be crated in side the room, they can still bark unsupervised. Good luck to the people trying to take a nap because I know that would tick me off with uncontrolled barking.

Most SD handlers can tell by body language and commends if its a real service dog, but because of a less then 2 min video of my dog seeing sand for the very first time in her life, you had to really make a post about it? I personally invite you to spend a day with us if you would like to get to know us.

https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html

 

[correcaminos]

Australian Poodles look like full Poodles and are pretty big. As I said, the service dog I saw was genuine and was an Aussie Poodle.

I have a friend who is allergic to most dogs and gets a standard poodle. I've been seeing more and more poodles out there. They are quite brilliant animals.

 

[NelleBelle]

I have a friend who is allergic to most dogs and gets a standard poodle. I've been seeing more and more poodles out there. They are quite brilliant animals.

We have a standard poodle and can’t believe how easy she is to train (we recently put our 17 yr old toy poodle to sleep and thought he was pretty darn smart but our standard is way beyond him in ease of training/intelligence). We are working with our standard to recognize when I have low and high blood sugar as I don’t recognize the symptoms anymore. She certainly is treat driven (I guess which makes it initially so easy to train her in combo with a clicker) but she has no desire for human food (which makes mealtimes great, she automatically lays under my chair). And we love that she doesn’t shed! But boy, is she expensive to groom !

 

[correcaminos]

We have a standard poodle and can’t believe how easy she is to train (we recently put our 17 yr old toy poodle to sleep and thought he was pretty darn smart but our standard is way beyond him in ease of training/intelligence). We are working with our standard to recognize when I have low and high blood sugar as I don’t recognize the symptoms anymore. She certainly is treat driven (I guess which makes it initially so easy to train her in combo with a clicker) but she has no desire for human food (which makes mealtimes great, she automatically lays under my chair). And we love that she doesn’t shed! But boy, is she expensive to groom !

So very sorry for the loss of your other poodle. My friend has had a few poodles and I just love them. If we were to ever get a dog I likely would go for one myself. They really are such smart creatures, and glad that yours will be able to help you as well with the blood sugar issue. I know it can be scary if you don't catch it on your own.

 

[21stamps]

We have a standard poodle and can’t believe how easy she is to train (we recently put our 17 yr old toy poodle to sleep and thought he was pretty darn smart but our standard is way beyond him in ease of training/intelligence). We are working with our standard to recognize when I have low and high blood sugar as I don’t recognize the symptoms anymore. She certainly is treat driven (I guess which makes it initially so easy to train her in combo with a clicker) but she has no desire for human food (which makes mealtimes great, she automatically lays under my chair). And we love that she doesn’t shed! But boy, is she expensive to groom !

I’m so sorry for your loss.
I have a 12 year old Maltese, so I definitely feel you on the grooming!!! He’s so high maintenance. I’ve always kept his hair in a puppy cut though, still requires daily brushing and lots of grooming, but I like this cut much better than the long hair, it keeps him looking young .
My dog is also the same as yours with human food, never begs, never has any interest.. I can literally sit on the sofa with a plate of cheese and crackers, pizza, etc.. and he will calmly lay on my lap or curled up next to me.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Nothing. You can complain to a CM, they will do nothing. You can all out the person as a liar and they will likely just laugh in your face. Sad fact is there isn't anything you as a visitor can do.

Though I have wondered what would happen on a plane if some passengers said they were deathly allergic to dog hair. I mean no one ever has to show proof that their child is allergic to peanuts to get the airline to stop serving peanuts because of a supposed allergy (yes I said supposed because from my experience the whole peanut on a plane is way overblown, I used to get annoyed when I didn't get my peanuts so now I just take along a can of peanuts and after lord knows how many flights where they've made announcements that peanuts aren't happening I've yet to see any fellow passengers gasping for breath and I open my peanuts on ever flight).

Maybe everyone should always tell the airline that they are deathly allergic to dogs so the airline will have an excuse to boot these animals into the cargo hold.

Um...as someone with a peanut allergy, I find the fact that you disregard the announcement very disturbing.

First off, an airplane is a giant floating box. Under normal circumstances, you would be able to get away from an irritant, but on an airplane, you're stuck.

Second, if someone does have a reaction that requires an Epi Pen, then they have to go to the ER. That means the plane has to land, delaying the flight for everyone and causing backups down the line. Not to mention the person could potentially DIE.

I am not normally as obsessive about my peanut allergy, but the knowledge that if I were to have a reaction, I'd inconvenience everyone on board means I tell the airline about my allergy, and there's no peanuts on the plane.

How about just enjoying your peanuts after the flight instead of potentially putting someone at risk and inconveniencing everyone, including yourself?

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I do hope you have a nice flight.
I’m not trying to get the last word, I just need to make clear that It is dangerous for many dogs to be in a cargo area.. this is proven. I think it’s imperative for people realize that when talking about where dogs should or shouldn’t be on a flight.

I can see it both ways, as both an animal lover and someone with allergies.

On one hand, you've got animals who need to travel, like service dogs and such (someone I know has a cat that she keeps at college with her because of her severe depression, so she flies with her cat).

On the other hand, allergic reactions are not good either.

I think a good compromise would be to have certain flights that are pet-free and some that are not. Allergy sufferers can avoid the flights with pets. Believe me, we won't mind. I hate inconveniencing others because of my allergies, especially over something like food that normally wouldn't be an issue.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

That’s not true. The number sounded high so I just looked it up.

Approximately 250,000 people in the entire World die from asthma per year.

Approximately 3,600 people in the U.S. die from asthma per year. I don’t know the percentage from animal related asthma attacks.
Source- https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/asthma.htm

I was also curious about food allergies. It looks like around 150 people per year die form all food allergies combined, in the US.
You’re definitely correct about that being less than asthma related deaths.

There's a very good reason for that.

I can guarantee you that a good bit of asthma-related deaths were people whose asthma was not well-controlled. When you have a disease in an uncontrolled state, then you'll have people die from it. That's why I see an allergist twice a year and take two inhalers per day.

Severe allergies are a bit different. For one, you learn very quickly to avoid the allergen and you are very cautious, and epinephrine can save your life. But believe me, you don't want to stick yourself with the epi pen. It's not something you have to worry about keeping under control. I've accidentally eaten peanuts once eight years ago since discovering my allergy. I've had plenty of asthma episodes. I'm more worried about the asthma because it likes to pop up constantly and sometimes without warning.