EPCOT Is the End of Innoventions Near?

Victor Kelly

Victor Kelly

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AK has not deviated because of Joe Rohde. It is not because Disney has not tried, I am sure of that.

How does that pertain to Epcot? Well, it never innovated after it opened. It was lefet to fend for itself.

I miss Epcot Center. I was 8 when it first opened, and I saw it the year after it opened. I just was not old enough to appreciate it like I would now. TT and M:S are not suitable or better replacements. Ellen made Energy better for a few years. And truth is, World Showcase is nothing but a bunch of themed gift shops. And a place for people to get drunk off their feet. Nothing more charming than people urinating and vomiting into the bushes.

I would hate to see the Communicores be razed but if it is needed then it is needed. I have concerns about Spaceship Earth. I have this dread feeling in my stomach, like it is going bye bye and will be replaced with an IP attraction.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Victor Kelly said:
AK has not deviated because of Joe Rohde. It is not because Disney has not tried, I am sure of that.

How does that pertain to Epcot? Well, it never innovated after it opened. It was lefet to fend for itself.

I miss Epcot Center. I was 8 when it first opened, and I saw it the year after it opened. I just was not old enough to appreciate it like I would now. TT and M:S are not suitable or better replacements. Ellen made Energy better for a few years. And truth is, World Showcase is nothing but a bunch of themed gift shops. And a place for people to get drunk off their feet. Nothing more charming than people urinating and vomiting into the bushes.

I would hate to see the Communicores be razed but if it is needed then it is needed. I have concerns about Spaceship Earth. I have this dread feeling in my stomach, like it is going bye bye and will be replaced with an IP attraction.
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To that point, Rohde has pointedly said that at the outset he was vehemently against Pandora, but then was given the authority to do exactly what he wanted on it and it fit seamlessly.
 
DreamfinderGuy

DreamfinderGuy

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Kidblacksmith said:
Did you happen to get any good footage of Communicore West on the last night of operation? You said you were one of the last handful to be in there, yeah?
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Funny story about that, I tried to and my camera died. I shot a portion of IllumiNations from the hallway on my phone (freehand) and took a bunch of photos before they forced me out. I actually did an entire B-Roll style video of shots around the building from different angles which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56FFAidhR5U
 
Victor Kelly

Victor Kelly

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matt9112 said:
Isnt that tied to how those garages were funded or built that they cant?
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Not sure. But if you look at the track record with parking, now they charge at the hotels per night. We see price increases in parking at the parks. We know they spent a ton on the Springs, Fox, Magic Bands. Does anyone believe this is not Chapeks next move? Think also, Universal does it. Universal also charges for Express Pass and soon Disney will do the same. I cannot direct quote but someone at Disney stated they are raising prices to control crowds.

Disney is about money not magic. They will ride this out until it breaks.
 
JayKZ

JayKZ

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My guess would be that if they begin to charge for parking at DS, they'll have parking validation with purchases, and touchpoints for hotel guests and AP holders to bypass charges. All of which is just intended to prevent people from gaming the system by parking at DS instead of the parks.
 
michmousefan

michmousefan

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Victor Kelly said:
Not sure. But if you look at the track record with parking, now they charge at the hotels per night. We see price increases in parking at the parks. We know they spent a ton on the Springs, Fox, Magic Bands. Does anyone believe this is not Chapeks next move? Think also, Universal does it. Universal also charges for Express Pass and soon Disney will do the same. I cannot direct quote but someone at Disney stated they are raising prices to control crowds.

Disney is about money not magic. They will ride this out until it breaks.
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Of course, the important distinction between Disney and Uni is that Universal's parking is for both parks and shopping... while Disney's at DS is just for shopping. Are many individuals *actually* gaming the system by parking at DS?
 
jt04

jt04

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michmousefan said:
Of course, the important distinction between Disney and Uni is that Universal's parking is for both parks and shopping... while Disney's at DS is just for shopping. Are many individuals *actually* gaming the system by parking at DS?
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It isn't gaming the system to park at DS and access WDW transportation. They built those massive garages for guest convenience and not solely for DS patrons.

the Disney difference.
 
Goofy Ninja

Goofy Ninja

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I think it is odd to keep the buildings on one side and not the other. But oh well... as long as it is an improvement then it is all good in the hood.
 
kthomas105

kthomas105

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Are the tunnels under innoventions being demolished as well? I would assume so since they are a part of the foundation and would not really serve much of a purpose any more but figured I would ask.
 

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