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EPCOT Is the End of Innoventions Near?

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
I've had friends straight up ask me "why are there so many characters here? I'm not a kid" when it comes to Epcot. If your attractions are good enough, you don't need to stoop down and include IP. If you're lazy (or budget limited) and unsure of your work then sure, stick something in there to ensure max ROI.

ROI also includes assets that are IP. Otherwise you start calculating individual classes of assets like shrubbery.
 

GhostlyGoofy

Well-Known Member
I've had friends straight up ask me "why are there so many characters here? I'm not a kid" when it comes to Epcot. If your attractions are good enough, you don't need to stoop down and include IP. If you're lazy (or budget limited) and unsure of your work then sure, stick something in there to ensure max ROI.
This is a weird complaint I find about epcot and "IP."
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They tried to go for characters. But in wrestling terms they never got over. Had they been popular who knows maybe they'd have gotten a film like pirates or HM.

So bring in the mouse.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
New logos - oooooh! :rolleyes:

But basically, just what we already know about the Spine project. The good and the bad.

I hate that phrase “More Disney, more family-friendly” though. Urgh! Families can like Epcot without needing IPs everywhere, why can’t they understand that? (That’s a rhetorical question btw).
They also posted this image when they mentioned the new logos.
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danlb_2000

Premium Member
Why would they call the building that is in the east of the park west, and the building in the west of the park East? It would make no sense? East and West aren't relative, they are fixed. Maybe you'd prefer Innoventions Left and Innoventions Right? But then that gets confusing if you're facing SSE....

Since guest areas are considered to be "on stage" they should be called Innoventions Stage Left and Innoventions Stage Right.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
This is a weird complaint I find about epcot and "IP."
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They tried to go for characters. But in wrestling terms they never got over. Had they been popular who knows maybe they'd have gotten a film like pirates or HM.

So bring in the mouse.
They were used before in America on Parade..Where else can you see the Salem Witch Trials as a float....Only Disney.
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I thought I said it in perfectly english, but it's obvious you guys aren't understanding it. If I said to my Grandpa whose a first time visitor.

"Grandpa meet me in Innoventions West". He would think he'd have to go left. But because Disney goes from a birds eye view direction and what it is based on the world map for Epcot it is the opposite.

I thought at least one of you would get it, but oh well. I'll try to describe things better for you guys in the future.

No need.
 

mikejs78

Well-Known Member
I thought I said it in perfectly english, but it's obvious you guys aren't understanding it. If I said to my Grandpa whose a first time visitor.

"Grandpa meet me in Innoventions West". He would think he'd have to go left. But because Disney goes from a birds eye view direction and what it is based on the world map for Epcot it is the opposite.

I thought at least one of you would get it, but oh well. I'll try to describe things better for you guys in the future.
This makes no sense. It has nothing to do with a Bird's eye view. There is only one direction called "West". It doesn't change because of the way the park is oriented, or because you
think it's confusing.
 

*Q*

Well-Known Member
I thought I said it in perfectly english,
The irony of this statement is just absolutely delectable. *chef's kiss*

but it's obvious you guys aren't understanding it. If I said to my Grandpa whose a first time visitor.

"Grandpa meet me in Innoventions West". He would think he'd have to go left. But because Disney goes from a birds eye view direction and what it is based on the world map for Epcot it is the opposite.
I cannot even begin to guess at what in blazes this sentence is trying to say or the thought processes that must occur in order for it to come into existence. Regardless, you either just ask a Cast Member for directions or look at a map (and hopefully you have common sense enough to be able to use the giant 180 foot tall geosphere to orient you). No one is expecting anyone to whip out their compass or have an innate connection with the magnetic fields of the Earth. That's what maps, signage, and Cast Members are for. I'm sure it didn't even occur to the park planners that there would be random knuckleheads who... just automatically assume they're facing north every time they ever enter any theme park, I guess? That's as much I've been able to surmise at what you're trying to get at.

He or She was saying the eastern and western sides of the park.

I agree with them it is confusing. They should have called it left and right or some other less confusing name. No one cares what the directions are from the sky.
Y'all know that compass directions are used for navigation on the land, right? Like it's not some kind of magical sky code. Please tell me you know that. If someone tells you to go down I-4 West or something you don't just start foaming at the mouth and shut down because your brain has entered an impassable logic paradox, you read the damn road signs and get on I-4 West.
 

nor'easter

Well-Known Member
I thought I said it in perfectly english, but it's obvious you guys aren't understanding it. If I said to my Grandpa whose a first time visitor.

"Grandpa meet me in Innoventions West". He would think he'd have to go left. But because Disney goes from a birds eye view direction and what it is based on the world map for Epcot it is the opposite.

I thought at least one of you would get it, but oh well. I'll try to describe things better for you guys in the future.
I hope your English teacher isn't reading your posts.
 

Epcot_Imagineer

Well-Known Member
Maybe I'm naive, or just try too hard to see the best in people, but I don't think @MickeyMouse10 was trying to troll anyone over this. Maybe a bit argumentative, ;) but not intentionally trolling. I still have to go through the "Never Eat Shredded Wheat" mnemonic device when remembering cardinal directions. So maybe ease up a bit over the insults for mixing up East and West Innoventions? Lord knows I've mixed up and gone to the wrong one in the park before.
 

Ripken10

Well-Known Member
He or She was saying the eastern and western sides of the park.

I agree with them it is confusing. They should have called it left and right or some other less confusing name. No one cares what the directions are from the sky.
I have to think you are joking. Calling something "left" or "right" as opposed to "east" or "west"?!? Please tell me you were joking? How many times I have heard the question "is that your left or my left"...

While it should be completely logical that East is always East and West is always West, there is a lot of people that always refer to North as "Up" and South as "Down"...no it still doesn't make any sense why anybody would be confused with this naming convention that the East building is on the East side.
 

PizzaPlanet

Well-Known Member
I thought I said it in perfectly english, but it's obvious you guys aren't understanding it. If I said to my Grandpa whose a first time visitor.

"Grandpa meet me in Innoventions West". He would think he'd have to go left. But because Disney goes from a birds eye view direction and what it is based on the world map for Epcot it is the opposite.

I thought at least one of you would get it, but oh well. I'll try to describe things better for you guys in the future.
But if Grandpa was coming from World Showcase, then east and west would be backwards. That's why it only makes sense to do it based on the "birds eye view" because it's consistent.
 

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