Is the clock ticking on the Sorcerer Mickey Hat icon at the Studios? YES!

zakattack99

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
makes you wonder just how much the hat parts weight.
If they are so heavy and big that they need to be cut in these smaller rings.

I am do not have any consturction background so take what I say with a grain of salt. But size and weight probably are not the only factors involved. I would hate to see what a good gust of wind would do if it caught a secton of hat mid lift. Those parts comming off now would be like a giant sail!
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
I am do not have any consturction background so take what I say with a grain of salt. But size and weight probably are not the only factors involved. I would hate to see what a good gust of wind would do if it caught a secton of hat mid lift. Those parts comming off now would be like a giant sail!

You are exactly right. I have seen a crane almost topple over lifting sheets of aluminum. As they say time is money so it is a real balancing act to take off as large of sections as possible and still stay safe.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
So, are they doing this work at night? Is that why suddenly this morning there were all these updates showing the top part off? I ask because the majority of people who have squashed the "it should just take a few days" concept have done so by saying they can't just bring out a wrecking ball and knock it down while guests are in the park. If it's being done at night then I have to ask... now what is the reason it's going to take so long? Are we sure they are just saving it for a dumpster and not for something else? It seems fairly methodical what they are doing, as if it isn't being trashed.

You don't use wrecking balls to tear stuff down on a job site you plan on keeping clean and intact. Big falling steel tends to do very bad things to the stuff it falls on :) It's not so much about people, but where it is and what they plan on doing with the space afterwards. It's also very messy and inconsistent to tear things apart with force. Structures that are simply steel skeletons are easier to just cut apart and drop methodically. You also then control the size of your materials to remove offsite. You can drop stuff right onto a flatbed and go... where as if you were just bashing it with a wrecking ball, you have tangled webs of debris you must sort and get into manageable pieces to transport. All of that must be done on site and takes more room, increases the size of the jobsite and risks more damage.

Methodical leads to predictable, safer, and cleaner job.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Well, while I get that, I keep seeing the Horizons demolition in my head (yes I know.. totally different structure) and can't help but think that if it's being done at night, they really could get it done quicker

Horizons was on a pad that was totally removed from guest areas, on a site that was completely cleared to the foundations/ground afterwards.

Surgical vs clean-slate.
 

zakattack99

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
You are exactly right. I have seen a crane almost topple over lifting sheets of aluminum. As they say time is money so it is a real balancing act to take off as large of sections as possible and still stay safe.

Thanks for the clarification! Dose anyone know what the BAH is made of? I know the structure is steel but what about the hat itself I have heard everything from aluminum, steel, to fiberglass any clerification?
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
You don't use wrecking balls to tear stuff down on a job site you plan on keeping clean and intact. Big falling steel tends to do very bad things to the stuff it falls on :) It's not so much about people, but where it is and what they plan on doing with the space afterwards. It's also very messy and inconsistent to tear things apart with force. Structures that are simply steel skeletons are easier to just cut apart and drop methodically. You also then control the size of your materials to remove offsite. You can drop stuff right onto a flatbed and go... where as if you were just bashing it with a wrecking ball, you have tangled webs of debris you must sort and get into manageable pieces to transport. All of that must be done on site and takes more room, increases the size of the jobsite and risks more damage.

Methodical leads to predictable, safer, and cleaner job.
In the post you quoted I actually said I understood they couldn't just knock it down with a wrecking ball and needed to be methodical. :)
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
In the post you quoted I actually said I understood they couldn't just knock it down with a wrecking ball and needed to be methodical. :)

Honestly I don't know what you were trying to say how.. you ask "If it's being done at night then I have to ask... now what is the reason it's going to take so long?"

... because it's at night on a jobsite they must setup and reset every night? Because they are doing it methodically and in the middle of a controlled jobsite?

3-6 weeks isn't that long. I bet we see the majority of the structure down in 5-10 days... with another 5+ days to get the beefier stuff down and the rest of the time doing the ground level changes.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
G1TTasd.jpg

So here is the real Chinese Theatre behind Craig Ferguson, who used to work for CBS but before that was Mr. Wick on the Drew Carey Show on ABC, the network that Disney owns, and he comes from Scotland which is in the UK which is a lot like England in EPCOT, so of course it all must be connected, right? So it's obvious that the newest icon for the Studios must be a giant animatronic Geoff Peterson, because (after all) his arm works which is more than you can say for the Yeti.

And that, my friends, is how logic works on one of these boards.
I'd support that.
 

dstrawn9889

Well-Known Member
i thought it was an observation that the undersides of the panels were painted grey-green, and they SEEMED to be fiberglass. but i doubt that fiberglas alone would be strong enough at that king of windload, so making a calculated assumption. you also do NOT USE A TORCH TO CUT FIBERGLASS...
 

ExtinctJenn

Well-Known Member
Honestly I don't know what you were trying to say how.. you ask "If it's being done at night then I have to ask... now what is the reason it's going to take so long?"

... because it's at night on a jobsite they must setup and reset every night? Because they are doing it methodically and in the middle of a controlled jobsite?

3-6 weeks isn't that long. I bet we see the majority of the structure down in 5-10 days... with another 5+ days to get the beefier stuff down and the rest of the time doing the ground level changes.
3-6 weeks isn't what folks kept responding with when I'd ask for the theories on how long it'll take. April/May was the time frame people were giving me and thus I was responding to that line of thinking. Either way, I was simply commenting that if they are doing nice and slow and very methodical then it sure implies they aren't just dumping it in a dumpster and are considering keeping it. In other words, they have other options, that are still methodical and don't involve a wrecking ball, that could probably bring it down quicker but it seems, based on the steps they've taken thus far, that they are trying to ensure it's intact. Was simply a comment, wasn't a debate in anyway.
 

dstrawn9889

Well-Known Member
3-6 weeks isn't what folks kept responding with when I'd ask for the theories on how long it'll take. April/May was the time frame people were giving me and thus I was responding to that line of thinking. Either way, I was simply commenting that if they are doing nice and slow and very methodical then it sure implies they aren't just dumping it in a dumpster and are considering keeping it. In other words, they have other options, that are still methodical and don't involve a wrecking ball, that could probably bring it down quicker but it seems, based on the steps they've taken thus far, that they are trying to ensure it's intact. Was simply a comment, wasn't a debate in anyway.
there are no other options, they are cutting it up to toss it. the dumpster in the foreground picture is a scrapyard. they are likely separating the different materials for recycling
 

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