OK arm chair imagineer.....What should have WDI done to The Living Seas?
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Is Innoventions really needed anymore?
- Thread starter Figment632
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1. Well there is the Atlantis theme ( and no it wasn't based off of the faliure Disney film) from the original concept.
2. Sea base Delta keep the same theme but put a new ride maybe a simulator or new thrill ride, like they did with SOarin and the land. A new ride especially if it was a trhill ride would have brought in just as many people.
Thats just two ideas, to claim that the only way to fix TLS was to make it a Nemo shrine is completely ridiculos.
I have never claimed that Nemo was the only way, nor do I think anyone else has. You have claimed that it was a bad choice in spite of the fact that it has been a financial success.I have claimed that it was the easiest way to transform the pavilion with an already established fan base, huge merchandising potential, and it was able to be done at a relatively low cost. I like the Atlantis concept but it has been done before and the change would have been incredibly more expensive with no assurance that it would work.
EPCOT Explorer
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SeaBase 2.0. Make it edgier...make it sleeker...Make it an adventure! EPCOT could use that!
Bottom line is they took the very cheap and easy way out and sacrificed the theme of the whole pavilion.
I thought that the theme of the pavilion was exploring the seas and discovering all the wonders that it holds. I fail to see how Nemo takes away from that. It would appear that the almost endless stream of people now heading into that pavilion would agree.
Well it is supposed to be the future of this what we can someday expect out of the sea, kind of like Sea Castle in Horizons.
mcjaco
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He's the imbodiment of Imagination, which in turn, creates the future through innovation, creativity, and what about science...science...science...:lol:
I don't think my imbodiment of Imagination would be a little purple dragon. More like a half naked supermodel telling me to come hither. Oh wait, that's what's happening in my imagination......... :lookaroun
Thus ends my argument if Innoventions is needed. You don't even know what's in there.
You're welcome. :ROFLOL:
We've rehashed it numerous times. You just fail to retain the answers. Or simply ignore them.
No one has ever claimed that a Nemo layover was the only way to fix the pavilion.
How so? It's the SAME pavilion it was before Nemo. They just repainted it. :hammer:
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't recall TLS ever being anything about what "we can someday expect out of the sea." It was, and always has been, a large aquarium with a few little tidbits of what they're "studying" there. Those poor manatees have been studied in that tank for over twenty years. :lol:
Please enlighten me as to what attractions regarding our future in the sea are now missing....and the hydrolators do not count.
Well you just made my point for me, I retain but you still haven't told me how he fits in FW.
They were part of the futuristic them so sure they count.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
AGAIN!?:fork::fork::lookaroun:lol:
:lookaroun
TLS was more the the experience of exploring and living in the Seas. IT was an adventure to a "future destination"...Almost as if they took Sea Castle from Horizons and built it. In that, you learned about our involvement in the Seas, and the tech to be used there. They could have easily rehashed that in 2006 with a new look, more to do, edgier approach....:shrug:
....In the FUTURE, however. That's not covered in TSwNaF....while it is a Future World PAvilion.:shrug:
Good imagination!
:lookarounTLS was more the the experience of exploring and living in the Seas. IT was an adventure to a "future destination"...Almost as if they took Sea Castle from Horizons and built it. In that, you learned about our involvement in the Seas, and the tech to be used there. They could have easily rehashed that in 2006 with a new look, more to do, edgier approach....:shrug:
But would it have been as successful? As a general rule adding a bell or whistle to a tired product might gain you a little interest it will rarely have staying power.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Sure, if they rebranded it. Look at how Tokyo tackled Discovery Bay.
raven
Well-Known Member
Thus creating a more inviting and recognizable environment for younger guests maximising revenue. How dare they! :lol:
Mansion Butler
Active Member
Yes, I think a 12/7/365 technology expo in the middle of Epcot is a great thing that they need in the park. Innoventions, by its nature, will be hit or miss, and you can argue that they don't really have too much compelling technology on display right now. But I don't think that's an argument that Innoventions shouldn't exist, I think it's an argument that Innoventions is currently being misused.
Technology expos can be cool, and Epcot should try and get companies to show off their wares to the legion of people that come in every day. And instead of advertising new Disney and sports games, partner with a company or two and try and get them to showcase the future of gaming. Let us see what might change our lives in the near future and what we might want to change our lives now. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's something that should be in Epcot.
This is, btw, the place I first learned about small cell phones and hybrid cars.
Future World shouldn't become less about the future. Nemo and Friends should not be the M.O. of the rest of the park.
If used properly, yes.
Probably. What should really take its place is more interesting displays of relevant technology and consumer products.
Also, why does Innoventions need a theme? A tech expo with Disney's standard of quality would be just enough theme for me.
Mansion Butler
Active Member
Wait. I LIKE THIS!they should rename it EPCOT Center...as a homage.
Mansion Butler
Active Member
That seems like what they did.
THEMEPARKPIONEER
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Innoventions used to be packed with futuristic items as I can remember. The only place I go is club cool and did wheres the fire. I guess it is like main street USA in a way. I do like the courtyard and just hanging out around that area with the ambiance, the sound of the fountain waterfall and the fountain shows.
A bell or a whistle would have been plussing what was there and not re-theming the entire pavilion.