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Rumor Is Indiana Jones Planning an Adventure to Disney's Animal Kingdom?
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Cmdr_Crimson
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Unfortunately, the plot for the novel of Indiana Jones and the Dinosaur Eggs revolves around China/Russia sections..
Here's the synopsis
Fresh from a ride on a Nazi submarine, Indiana Jones is persuaded by a beautiful missionary to search for her missing father in Mongolia. Professor Angus Starbuck has discovered a dinosaur bone in the Gobi Desert. But unlike other such discoveries, this bone isn't ancient!
As Indy crosses from China through a treacherous mountain pass to Outer Mongolia, he runs afaul of the region's fiercest warlords. Meanwhile the world's last innocent people, dwelling in a Stone Age paradise, are poised on the brink of destruction. Suddenly Indiana Jones is dueling wild dogs and bloodthirsty killers in a desperate effort to save the most historic discovery of the twentieth century: the last living triceratops
So, either they think of something where Jones meets breathing Dinos within a temple or just a curse based theme is the only way to go..
Here's the synopsis
Fresh from a ride on a Nazi submarine, Indiana Jones is persuaded by a beautiful missionary to search for her missing father in Mongolia. Professor Angus Starbuck has discovered a dinosaur bone in the Gobi Desert. But unlike other such discoveries, this bone isn't ancient!
As Indy crosses from China through a treacherous mountain pass to Outer Mongolia, he runs afaul of the region's fiercest warlords. Meanwhile the world's last innocent people, dwelling in a Stone Age paradise, are poised on the brink of destruction. Suddenly Indiana Jones is dueling wild dogs and bloodthirsty killers in a desperate effort to save the most historic discovery of the twentieth century: the last living triceratops
So, either they think of something where Jones meets breathing Dinos within a temple or just a curse based theme is the only way to go..
Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
- No
- If they actually follow through with this, cloning the ride would actually be an incredibly complex operation that I think they are unlikely to do, given their track record. Track layouts aside, everything else about the ride is just about as different as can be. Scenery taken out and replaced, animatronics removed and different ones added in, hookups for specific special effects (thinking about that wall that makes you look like you're moving backwards especially)...all of this coupled with an Encanto ride built-from-scratch and the other aspects of the South American land, I think all of this is just too expensive and won't happen like that.
- Much more likely (in my opinion) is an entirely new Indy storyline that involves him deep in the Argentinian jungle (preferably with a Carnotaurus or three chasing him) looking for some sort of artifact. If they're going to go this route, tying dinosaurs in would make it a little bit better, especially since Carnotaurus was discovered in Argentina. That's quite a serendipitous coincidence. But I'll bet there's no way we get a huge, cavern room with a skull face and lava.
And it continues. My contact says that the pushback of replacing It's Tough to Be a Bug is now having them consider replacing each of the World Showcase national pavilions with a corresponding Zootopia biome. Norway is obviously getting the arctic biome, for example.
What about, "Eeek! Yeti!"?
MerlinTheGoat
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For the most part, I don't really have a particularly strong preference for the Tokyo variant of Indy (upkeep aside). The main room at Tokyo is extremely blue tinted, and I actually prefer CA's more diverse color scheme. It helps the detail of the paint pop more and I find it generally more attractive. The giant head of Mara atop the lift hill and the accompanying effects are also a lot more impressive than the tiny crystal skull idol from Tokyo.
That said, Tokyo does do at least two things better than California.
First and foremost, the Chamber of Destiny room's rotating door effect at CA hasn't functioned in many years, they now always keep it locked to the middle door. With this effect being permanently disabled (and i'm guessing it will never function again), the room is rather unimpressive and empty. Tokyo on the other hand never bothered trying to replicate this effect at all. Instead, they decorated the perimeter of this room with a highly detailed temple set with plenty of physical depth and a canal with real water. IMO, Tokyo's variant of this room looks fantastic, I prefer it to CA's variant even when it actually functioned properly. If they do actually end up cloning Indy at WDW, they should look towards Tokyo's version of this room as inspiration. There's no way they're going to try to replicate a functional version of CA's door swapping effect ever again, and copying the non-functional version of that room would be really foolish when there's a much better one available.
Secondly, i've never liked the dart room at CA. For a ride that has such incredible physical detail in every other scene, they have this one hallway with flat static skeletons painted on the walls. It sticks out like a sore thumb and looks more like something out of Mr Toad (mind you, I love Mr Toad, but its cutouts are not really suitable for an otherwise heavily detailed physical ride like Indy). Tokyo's version of this room ditches the flat skeletons in favor of dart-shooting stone reliefs protruding from the walls. Making it more similar to the temple scene at the start of Raiders as well. Based on ride layout diagrams, this hallway unfortunately seems like it's too narrow to implement any animatronic figures. Whatever detail is implemented would need to be flattened against the walls, or suspended from the ceiling. Sadly, Disney's lawyers hate moving props suspended over guest heads nowadays, so we probably won't get anything up there apart from static scenery (too bad as that could be a cool idea). But some variant of Tokyo's statues would still be preferable to CA's flat paintings.
For the record i'm against this change. Dinosaur needed some work and filling out of the dark empty scenes that were never finished, but I still liked it and it had some fantastic dino AA's. There's no guarantee they'll go through with this project anyway though, they were just as non-committal as last year's Moana/Zootopia crap. If they do though, I don't expect a particularly unique Indy ride. They love clones. The best you could reasonable hope for is that they pull good ideas from the two existing variants. There's every possibility that they might even screw this up as well.
That said, Tokyo does do at least two things better than California.
First and foremost, the Chamber of Destiny room's rotating door effect at CA hasn't functioned in many years, they now always keep it locked to the middle door. With this effect being permanently disabled (and i'm guessing it will never function again), the room is rather unimpressive and empty. Tokyo on the other hand never bothered trying to replicate this effect at all. Instead, they decorated the perimeter of this room with a highly detailed temple set with plenty of physical depth and a canal with real water. IMO, Tokyo's variant of this room looks fantastic, I prefer it to CA's variant even when it actually functioned properly. If they do actually end up cloning Indy at WDW, they should look towards Tokyo's version of this room as inspiration. There's no way they're going to try to replicate a functional version of CA's door swapping effect ever again, and copying the non-functional version of that room would be really foolish when there's a much better one available.
Secondly, i've never liked the dart room at CA. For a ride that has such incredible physical detail in every other scene, they have this one hallway with flat static skeletons painted on the walls. It sticks out like a sore thumb and looks more like something out of Mr Toad (mind you, I love Mr Toad, but its cutouts are not really suitable for an otherwise heavily detailed physical ride like Indy). Tokyo's version of this room ditches the flat skeletons in favor of dart-shooting stone reliefs protruding from the walls. Making it more similar to the temple scene at the start of Raiders as well. Based on ride layout diagrams, this hallway unfortunately seems like it's too narrow to implement any animatronic figures. Whatever detail is implemented would need to be flattened against the walls, or suspended from the ceiling. Sadly, Disney's lawyers hate moving props suspended over guest heads nowadays, so we probably won't get anything up there apart from static scenery (too bad as that could be a cool idea). But some variant of Tokyo's statues would still be preferable to CA's flat paintings.
For the record i'm against this change. Dinosaur needed some work and filling out of the dark empty scenes that were never finished, but I still liked it and it had some fantastic dino AA's. There's no guarantee they'll go through with this project anyway though, they were just as non-committal as last year's Moana/Zootopia crap. If they do though, I don't expect a particularly unique Indy ride. They love clones. The best you could reasonable hope for is that they pull good ideas from the two existing variants. There's every possibility that they might even screw this up as well.
Professortango1
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It's packaged with "the train cuts through the Yeti's habitat and locals worship this creature."
Cmdr_Crimson
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Other sad fact that Dinosaur is the last attractions at WDW that features the voice of Bill Nye The Science Guy...
EPCOTCenterLover
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And I'm in agreement with how Indy handles it 1000%.
WaltsTreasureChest
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Other sad fact that Dinosaur is the last attractions at WDW that features the voice of Bill Nye The Science Guy...
Cmdr_Crimson
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Oh my, no he isn't gone per se..Just the attractions he was a part of in the resort .
He had a preshow attraction in Innoventions,
Of course he was at UoE..Here is when he made an appearance out at Epcot a few years ago someone mentioned it to him
He was your Cyber Host on Cyberspace Mountain In Disneyquest.
And here he is in the Preshow doing the audio in the queue line of the Dino Institute.
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RSoxNo1
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In fairness, I wrote this 5 years ago. I have since written that Pandora is the most successful integration of an IP into the themes of an existing theme park ever.
That being said, I could see the Indy DAK story focus on a magical macguffin that leads to animal encounters, real or imaginary. Alternatively, it could be in pursuit of something in the story and the animals interfere. While Indy doesn't have a direct tie to animals I envision both Tropical Americas attractions to easily hit on the DAK themes:
- The intrinsic and superior value of nature (An overgrown temple with animals residing inside exemplifies this without outwardly stating it)
- Personal Call to Action (all this has to be is a parting message at the end of the ride)
- Transformation through adventure (this is probably the most generic of the themes)
RSoxNo1
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I certainly agree, but unfortunately a clone with a loose tie in the pre-show wouldn't surprise me. I still want the boulder scene.
flynnibus
Premium Member
or an 'updated version' using all projection
cheezbat
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No big loss….Other sad fact that Dinosaur is the last attractions at WDW that features the voice of Bill Nye The Science Guy...
I’ve always kind of found him annoying…
Amazing this all turned out this way. They went back to the old drawing board because of irreconcilable issues with the Shanghai Zootopia ride story being overlayed onto Dinosaur’s ride system and track in the USA. The police are also an issue. This is one of those weird situations where yeah, I’m turning out to be sorta right but not because I’m Visionary, but because of some weird form of luck. And the hatred of police in the US. And the major issues with that ride system and the story. And the fact that they can add in Coco and Encanto areas and call it family friendly too.
Indy will undoubtedly save money. I hope there are some brains left in WDI to build two of everything for this new Indy ride. There’s a certain park in Paris just dying for an expansion.
Indy will undoubtedly save money. I hope there are some brains left in WDI to build two of everything for this new Indy ride. There’s a certain park in Paris just dying for an expansion.
mattpeto
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I’ve seen Coco mentioned a couple of times in the AK art but thought it was an odd they didn’t mention it.
WDI has commitment issues.
mattpeto
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It feels like it was a late and welcomed shift from Moana/Zootopia.
Any idea when something might be get confirmed? Do we think Dinosaur will be open this time next year?
I think Dinosaur will last another year or two. Probably won’t get confirmed project plans until closer to that time. Maybe announced at the D23 Not Expo next year, but that will still be too soon to see actual construction.