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Rumor Is Indiana Jones Planning an Adventure to Disney's Animal Kingdom?

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
The set itself was not as fully built out as WDW's. leaving a lot more of the structure exposed. Beyond just the visual element I believe (I'll have to look this back up because I can't find my original research) that some of the additional water and special effects were not installed as they were in WDW. It's the same effect but less of it if that makes sense? Again I'll have to go back and back that up. Also I'm not sure what state it's in right now because of upkeep.
Can’t say I noticed that. But I’ll certainly look into it now you’ve said it.
 

DoubleJ21

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No idea where to put this, but Joe Rohde made a very quick trip to Orlando. (36 hours)
http://instagr.am/p/BpM5qt2HFBX/ In another post he commented: "...very important decisions are made in some very short periods of time...and you kind of have to be there for that period of time."
 

ChrisFL

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So sure, they could shoehorn Indy in by doing a plot such as that - but a plot like that neither does justice to AK or to Indy. Indy is an archaeologist. An archaeologist isn't one who studies history, but one who studies human history via human artifacts. Every one of the Indiana Jones movies is about the search for some human artifact that has mystical properties - the Ark of the Covenant, the Sankara Stones, the Holy Grail, and the Crystal Skull. Sure, from a setting point of view, Indy often visits locales that match some of the locales in Animal Kingdom, but from a thematic point of view, Indy is not really about anything to do with animals, nature, or man's relationship with nature (all themes of DAK). So being against Indy in DAK for me is twofold - I don't want to ruin DAK's thematic cohesion (and among the parks, it currently has the best cohesion), nor do I want a land based on Indy that doesn't do justice to the thematic elements of the Indiana Jones franchise.
So is Animal Kingdom a zoo or not a zoo? Disney claims it's not a zoo, but it seems people want everything to be 100% related to animals because of the name of the park.

Disney can easily make a land of a certain part of the world that Indy can have an attraction in, and still be a land based around the different animals of the region and other attractions related to that as well. Indy could even be searching for something and find something else that's much more important/significant that's animal or conservation related. We know from the movies that he's obsessed with making things right, so I could definitely see that happening.
 

lazyboy97o

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No idea where to put this, but Joe Rohde made a very quick trip to Orlando. (36 hours)
http://instagr.am/p/BpM5qt2HFBX/ In another post he commented: "...very important decisions are made in some very short periods of time...and you kind of have to be there for that period of time."
Hope a new expansion has been approved for DAK
It sounds more like it is related to Sausalito. Lots of decisions get forced by construction in themed entertainment.
 

DoubleJ21

Well-Known Member
It sounds more like it is related to Sausalito. Lots of decisions get forced by construction in themed entertainment.
That's right, I forgot he's in charge of Marvel projects.

I don't think he'd have to fly out to Orlando to make a construction decision though. That's just a hunch.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I would argue it could fit. The theme at the heart of Animal Kingdom is Man vs. Nature, and Nature always triumphs. Indy vs Snakes, Indy vs Rats, Indy vs Ants... you get the idea. Sure it’s a little bit far-fetched, but so is Avatar.

Regardless, I haven’t heard much as of late on this project. (Or much of it going into Hollywood Studios either) I’ll post more if I hear more.
I think the starting point of Indiana Jones as a thematic tie to Animal Kingdom is better than the starting point for Avatar (looking purely at the plot of the movie). When you get deeper into both, they absolutely nailed the story treatment for Pandora and could certainly do the same with Indy if they so chose. Having said that, count me on team DHS for Indy.
 

jt04

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I think the starting point of Indiana Jones as a thematic tie to Animal Kingdom is better than the starting point for Avatar (looking purely at the plot of the movie). When you get deeper into both, they absolutely nailed the story treatment for Pandora and could certainly do the same with Indy if they so chose. Having said that, count me on team DHS for Indy.
You made such a strong case for DAK, which I completely agree with, but what is the case for DHS in your opinion?
 

RSoxNo1

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You made such a strong case for DAK, which I completely agree with. What is the case for DHS in your opinion.
With Indy there is already the leap from archaeologist to paleontologist in the novels. Beyond that, it's not that difficult a leap should they want to continue the dinosaur angle. Beyond that, man vs. animals, man vs. nature, and conservation can all be extensions of the Indiana Jones story that would fit into that park.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
With Indy there is already the leap from archaeologist to paleontologist in the novels. Beyond that, it's not that difficult a leap should they want to continue the dinosaur angle. Beyond that, man vs. animals, man vs. nature, and conservation can all be extensions of the Indiana Jones story that would fit into that park.
Thanks.
 

Absimilliard

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Can’t say I noticed that. But I’ll certainly look into it now you’ve said it.
The differences I noticed between the WDW and Paris Catastrophe Canyon:

- Different truck model and tanker shape.

- The fire effects don't run as long in Paris.

They both shared the same effects when they opened and a similar sequence.

- Tram parks.

- Rain effect with the tanker truck wipes comically activating to accentuate the effect.

- Earthquake! The tram shake, the light poles sway and the water tank on stilts shake. A pilot light (that was lighted up) swayed heavily as well.

- A power transformer starts to spark and cause the end of the tanker truck to catch fire. At the same time, the pilot light on the left side near the large oil tank cause that oil tank to explode. The tank blew open and fire came out.

- An oil pump on the right near the rock catch fire and the pipes in the center catch fire. The flames race up the pipe.

- Largest explosion is from the top oil tank when the flames reach it.

- The truck horn blows as water is released from the three tanks. Water cannons activate as well to shoot water at us and water tanks above the tram release. The truck is on a long boom that push it toward the guests, making it appear like its sliding down the hill. The flames cut off during that time.

Both WDW and Paris had all those effects when they opened. Alas, in both cases, the pilot light flame was soon cut-off and the exploding tank effect stopped working and the moving pieces stuck in the open position. The shaking water tank barely moved at WDW by the end and the wiper movement stopped. The spark effects is at both parks very unreliable.

At WDW, the exploding oil pump on the right kept burning until the tidal wave while in Paris, its one short explosion. The burning pipes race up faster in Paris. One curious programming quirk in Paris is that the set is static until they yell Action! The oil pumps don't turn when you first roll into the canyon and they turn off once the sequence ends.

Marni, I remember seeing years ago a bad youtube video of the early days of Catastophe Canyon at the Disney-MGM Studios that showed a fire effect on the actual tram bridge in the canyon. Thing is, I can't find any evidence of it now and I am wondering if it was just a trick of the camera or it existed in the early day.

Disneyland Paris uploaded a few years ago on youtube an awesome video showing the original version of their Catastrophe Canyon.

 
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