EricsBiscuit
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Alice in Wonderland (the original) was a flop and then turned into a cult classic.
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Rumor Is Indiana Jones Planning an Adventure to Disney's Animal Kingdom?
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jt04
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"After the project"
I see another spirited rumor about Joe moving on from Disney. That can only mean he will be around another decade or more creating magical realms for the mouse.
champdisney
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Indy encounters animals in every cinematic adventure he's been in. I would definitely welcome this.
EricsBiscuit
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Just as there is a dog is Lelo and Stitch. Why don't we build a Lelo and Stitch ride at DAK? Etc. it's a slippery slope.
champdisney
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Indy also ventures through jungles, deserts and mountains... all inhabited by animals. Sorry, I just don't get the point you're trying to make.
EricsBiscuit
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MNy movies have certain aspects of DAK in them, environments, animals etc. but they lack the theme and most importantly the message of DAK.
lazyboy97o
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Things being in a story does not make them the subject.
champdisney
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An Indiana Jones attraction/themed land can easily embrace all of what DAK stands for if given the chance.
EricsBiscuit
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But why not put it in a place where you don't have to alter the message of a movie to fit be park, like DHS? Why replace yet another classic for essentially an overlay when a park in need of attractions could use some help?
No Name
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The point is, there's a difference between a ride having something and being about something. The Indiana Jones ride has animals, but it's not about animals. The Guardians of the Galaxy ride may have futuristic technology, but not be about futuristic technology. Star Wars Land and Toy Story Land may be based on movies/entertainment, but not be about movies/entertainment.
This is how theme, and the distinctness of parks, gets watered down.
champdisney
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Okay, so if an Indiana Jones attraction were to be built inside a structure themed to an abandoned temple in Asia would that be okay?
Yeah, but they're obstacles that the hero has to go through that brings the story together. It may not be subject for the viewer but it is for that particular character in that particular moment.
lazyboy97o
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No, because setting is also not subject. Indiana Jones has nothing to do with the intrinsic value of nature.
That is a very big stretch. Might as well put Indiana Jones at the Beach Club because sand is an obstacle.
Karakasa
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Like, lemme put it this way.
If they're just retheming Dinosaur and pulling a PotC and putting a Harrison Ford AA in it somewhere, fine.
If they're retheming Dinoland entirely to South America with focus on South American animals and indigenous cultures, or "Indiana Jones's Lost World" which focuses on mythical animals and/or dinos fine... Kinda.
If they're removing dinosaurs from WDW entirety just for some synergy bullcrap without even trying to tie Indy in with the AK themes, hell no.
I'd be optimistic with how Pandora turned out but getting rid of what is essentially my favorite ride in any Disney park I've been to it needs to be damn good.
If they're just retheming Dinosaur and pulling a PotC and putting a Harrison Ford AA in it somewhere, fine.
If they're retheming Dinoland entirely to South America with focus on South American animals and indigenous cultures, or "Indiana Jones's Lost World" which focuses on mythical animals and/or dinos fine... Kinda.
If they're removing dinosaurs from WDW entirety just for some synergy bullcrap without even trying to tie Indy in with the AK themes, hell no.
I'd be optimistic with how Pandora turned out but getting rid of what is essentially my favorite ride in any Disney park I've been to it needs to be damn good.
Guys, say what you want. But overall Indy fits the design aesthetic of Animal Kingdom. It wouldn't stick out there like it would at whatever Hollywood Studios will become. And if this project is a rush job to be open in time for the new film, it's the only option to bring Indy to Florida. Disney doesn't build big rides that quickly. Dinosaur would be an easy re-theme, most of the work would be on the facade and queue and tearing down a couple walls. The ride interior is all scenic design and those props can be built off-site and moved in very quickly. Plus who says the scenes would be identical to California's or Tokyo's? There's this great projection technology that was used in Shanghai that could replace or enhance scenes. The possibilities are endless.
Now, do I think it's a great idea? No. I'd miss Dinoland USA. But overall, it's not that bad for the park. Zootopia would be an awful horrendous fit for Animal Kingdom's design aesthetic, and overall theme as well. At least Indy keeps the feel of the park in tact. We're not in the days of more one-time-use only attractions, we are in the days of the franchise. Might as well call them Movie Franchise Parks instead of Theme Parks now (and I hate admitting that, but it seems to be true).
Put yourself in Bob Chapek's shoes. Your boss wants an Indy ride on the East Coast. What are you gonna do to have it open in time for the new movie? It makes sense.
Now, do I think it's a great idea? No. I'd miss Dinoland USA. But overall, it's not that bad for the park. Zootopia would be an awful horrendous fit for Animal Kingdom's design aesthetic, and overall theme as well. At least Indy keeps the feel of the park in tact. We're not in the days of more one-time-use only attractions, we are in the days of the franchise. Might as well call them Movie Franchise Parks instead of Theme Parks now (and I hate admitting that, but it seems to be true).
Put yourself in Bob Chapek's shoes. Your boss wants an Indy ride on the East Coast. What are you gonna do to have it open in time for the new movie? It makes sense.
asianway
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Hey we just happen to have an Indy AA lying around!
Her animatronic was removed years ago and is now a pirate.
Just4Pics
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I always knew Ellen would end up a pirate. Not surprising.
To the current management, Animal Kingdom is all about the intrinsic value of money.
Jones14
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The new movie is still three years away. That's the standard build time for attractions these days, so I refuse to let them fall back on the "new ride by x date" excuse that they used for Guardians and Mickey.
I'd also argue that Indy doesn't stick out at Hollywood as much as one would assume. Ancient ruins and temples would be no more visually offputting than the alien cities and rock work of Galaxies Edge. If Disney needs a new ride on that side of Animal Kingdom, dig up the Excavator or another dinosaur concept to replace Dinorama. Putting IJ in Dinosaur doesn't solve any of the park's problems, and it creates a host of new ones.