Rumor Is Indiana Jones Planning an Adventure to Disney's Animal Kingdom?

[Professortango1]

Personally, if Disney had any intention of ever getting the Marvel theme park rights back, I do think they would of gone down the route of putting Marvel in DHS starting with Mission Breakout and using that area.

Because Guardians is going in Epcot, to me it’s apparent that there won’t be more Marvel coming to WDW anytime soon. Instead, put it in the Space area of Epcot and bring traffic to that area.

Not that I want Disney to be lazy but why move Indy to Animal Kingdom. Why not update the stunt show and then add a ride on the land where Star Tours currently sits?

Because Dinosaur is an expensive ride which ranks as "meh" inside a park with quite a few expensive rides which rank as "meh" (Navi River, KRR, TTBAB). With Everest's effects always broken and Safari having almost every effect nixed, the parks needs to flesh out their park. They could do this by adding more high quality attractions ($$$) or plussing their current attractions which don't hit as well as they should ($). Plus, this change gives Imagineers a budget to fix the weakest themed area of the resort, Dinorama.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Because Dinosaur is an expensive ride which ranks as "meh" inside a park with quite a few expensive rides which rank as "meh" (Navi River, KRR, TTBAB). With Everest's effects always broken and Safari having almost every effect nixed, the parks needs to flesh out their park. They could do this by adding more high quality attractions ($$$) or plussing their current attractions which don't hit as well as they should ($). Plus, this change gives Imagineers a budget to fix the weakest themed area of the resort, Dinorama.

Come to Disney's Animal Kingdom! We have have one good, working, expensive ride!

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Because Dinosaur is an expensive ride which ranks as "meh" inside a park with quite a few expensive rides which rank as "meh" (Navi River, KRR, TTBAB). With Everest's effects always broken and Safari having almost every effect nixed, the parks needs to flesh out their park. They could do this by adding more high quality attractions ($$$) or plussing their current attractions which don't hit as well as they should ($). Plus, this change gives Imagineers a budget to fix the weakest themed area of the resort, Dinorama.

So then just flesh out Dinosaur and Dinoland USA. Why must it be tied to this specific IP when the IP already exists in another park? The $$$ vs $ argument can made for DHS too adding on to what is already there to develop a complete Indiana Jones land. If anything DAK should do the same and put money toward improving what's already there. Kali needs a new story. NRJ needs to be reworked. If these "meh" rides (or lands) were fully-realized in the first place Disney wouldn't be resorting to band-aid solutions, like throwing IP at it. Would IP help? Probably. But it's NOT needed. Plussing can be done without IP. It shouldn't be the go-to solution for making an attraction "better"

Indiana Jones should go to the IP park, the one dedicated to movies.

 

[Kman101]

Plussing can be done without IP. It shouldn't be the go-to solution for making an attraction "better"

THIS!

I have no issues with certain IPs if they're used well and put where they should be. Unfortunately, they can't seem to grasp the "used well" part or even putting them where they should.

I'm tired of IP being the go-to because they think it suddenly makes something better. IP isn't always 'the problem' but it shouldn't always be 'the answer' either ...

 

[Nickels5]

Because Dinosaur is an expensive ride which ranks as "meh" inside a park with quite a few expensive rides which rank as "meh" (Navi River, KRR, TTBAB). With Everest's effects always broken and Safari having almost every effect nixed, the parks needs to flesh out their park. They could do this by adding more high quality attractions ($$$) or plussing their current attractions which don't hit as well as they should ($). Plus, this change gives Imagineers a budget to fix the weakest themed area of the resort, Dinorama.

I agree with Navi and kali, but tough to be a bug is anything but meh. I think it’s ond of the best 3D shows on property.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

Because Dinosaur is an expensive ride which ranks as "meh" inside a park with quite a few expensive rides which rank as "meh" (Navi River, KRR, TTBAB). With Everest's effects always broken and Safari having almost every effect nixed, the parks needs to flesh out their park. They could do this by adding more high quality attractions ($$$) or plussing their current attractions which don't hit as well as they should ($). Plus, this change gives Imagineers a budget to fix the weakest themed area of the resort, Dinorama.

I’m sure most regular guests visiting don’t rank Dinosaur as a “meh” attraction. Also I think the Safari has improved by getting rid of the subplot that was there before. Now it’s all about the animals.

 

[voodoo321]

I’m sure most regular guests visiting don’t rank Dinosaur as a “meh” attraction. Also I think the Safari has improved by getting rid of the subplot that was there before. Now it’s all about the animals.

The subplot with Little Red, the jeep chase and shootout made it more entertaining and fun. If all you want is the animals there is always your local zoo.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

The subplot with Little Red, the jeep chase and shootout made it more entertaining and fun. If all you want is the animals there is always your local zoo.

Agreed. Never understood the change. Even with a revised plot (a non-poacher story) it would be better than what we have currently, IMO I can see animals like this at my local Zoo. I go to Disney for something unique. If not a story make it more educational or something. When the animals are a no-show it makes for a wasted tour. Now back to your regular discussion of Indy vs Dinos.

 

[Dunston]

Because Dinosaur is an expensive ride which ranks as "meh" inside a park with quite a few expensive rides which rank as "meh" (Navi River, KRR, TTBAB). With Everest's effects always broken and Safari having almost every effect nixed, the parks needs to flesh out their park. They could do this by adding more high quality attractions ($$$) or plussing their current attractions which don't hit as well as they should ($). Plus, this change gives Imagineers a budget to fix the weakest themed area of the resort, Dinorama.

I'd beg to differ that DINOSAUR is "meh". The ride, especially with the restored effects, impresses just as much as it did in 1998, ask any guest.

I’m sure most regular guests visiting don’t rank Dinosaur as a “meh” attraction. Also I think the Safari has improved by getting rid of the subplot that was there before. Now it’s all about the animals.

Couldn't agree more. Even when I was a child, I thought the Jungle Cruise-esque elephant at the end was out-of-place and corny. In an attraction where the draw is a real (as real as a theme park in Orlando can be, anyway) safari that can be different every time thanks to the living animals, the phony-ness of the Big Red Little Red story is amplified tenfold with repeated ridethroughs.

 

[Kman101]

I’m sure most regular guests visiting don’t rank Dinosaur as a “meh” attraction. Also I think the Safari has improved by getting rid of the subplot that was there before. Now it’s all about the animals.

That poster seems to have a habit of making WDW 'less than' (and in certain cases, they need no help). They think the DCA Tower of Terror was the better one!

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

They think the DCA Tower of Terror was the better one!

oooohhhhhhh nooooooooooo

 

[FigmentForver96]

That poster seems to have a habit of making WDW 'less than' (and in certain cases, they need no help). They think the DCA Tower of Terror was the better one!

Well when you say Magic Kingdom is a half day park....

 

[DanielBB8]

Indiana Jones should go to the IP park, the one dedicated to movies.

Yet Avatar made it to Animal Kingdom. Are we back to this argument again? It was beaten to death many years ago.

 

[Professortango1]

So then just flesh out Dinosaur and Dinoland USA. Why must it be tied to this specific IP when the IP already exists in another park? The $$$ vs $ argument can made for DHS too adding on to what is already there to develop a complete Indiana Jones land. If anything DAK should do the same and put money toward improving what's already there. Kali needs a new story. NRJ needs to be reworked. If these "meh" rides (or lands) were fully-realized in the first place Disney wouldn't be resorting to band-aid solutions, like throwing IP at it. Would IP help? Probably. But it's NOT needed. Plussing can be done without IP. It shouldn't be the go-to solution for making an attraction "better"

Indiana Jones should go to the IP park, the one dedicated to movies.

SSH

I’m sure most regular guests visiting don’t rank Dinosaur as a “meh” attraction. Also I think the Safari has improved by getting rid of the subplot that was there before. Now it’s all about the animals.

The safari is nice, but not that different from what my local animal park offers. I go to Disney for the magic, and I miss those effects.

Dinosaur is challenged. The ride's narrator and identification of the dinos doesn't work for me. The ride seems disjointed and random sue to the darkness of the ride as well as the narration. Indy works because it feels like a madcap escape. It's like an action sequence. Dinosaur feels like they don't know what to do. An adventure with dinos sounds fun, but we need a ride vehicle and insertion into the dinos world. So they could either do a Jurassic Park rip off or a time travel adventure. The time travel thing feels "something should go wrong", like the vehicle malfunctions and we are stuck there while the server reboots. We must survive. Or have the vehicle jump through different eras chasing/fleeing from something. What we have feels manufactured and dishonest. I also wonder why we went back minutes before the asteroid. Shouldn't we have chosen maybe at least a day or so before?

The Indy IP solves the plot issue with it being an escape from a lost world. It doesn't feel like a Jurassic Park rip off nor does it feel as lazily plotted as the current ride. Plus, a Lost World situation allows for more attractions and dinos to be incorporated.

 

[Professortango1]

That poster seems to have a habit of making WDW 'less than' (and in certain cases, they need no help). They think the DCA Tower of Terror was the better one!

I've explained my reasons and supported them with examples. You don't have to agree, but don't dismiss me as somebody who just is a contrarian for the sake of complaining. Every time I've explained my opinions, there are always those who agree.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I've had the privilege of having traveled a lot and visited many great zoos throughout both the US and a few in Europe. None of them have offered anything close to comparable to the Safari at Animal Kingdom (and i have visited a few that did have smaller scale safari tour rides). You'd have to go on an actual safari somewhere in Africa (like Kenya) or Australia to get an equivalent or better experience.

Adding Indy to Dinosaur won't improve it, it will just make it quite nonsensical. Dinosaur already has a great base concept and a good start in terms of execution. The dialog could be polished without any issue, but i don't think it's a negative even as-is. They really just need to "finish" the ride as it was originally designed pre budget cuts. At least fill out the empty dark areas where they ran out of money. I don't want to get into an Indy vs Dinosaur flamewar about which ride is better, but Dino has its merits as well. Namely a handful of very impressive animatronics that (IMO) are mostly very effective at seeming real. I always enjoy riding it and think it's at least a very good ride, bordering on greatness and could easily be plussed to be truly great if they spent a bit of money on it (not adding Indy).

I've seen a couple of people claim DCA's Tower of Terror was better. I just don't get any of the arguments at all. It really just seems like the same experience with less overall ride, scenery, surprise and overall impact as WDW's. The 13th floor where the elevator leaves the shaft was a unique surprise that left a big impact on me when I first rode it, setting it even further apart from normal drop rides and enhancing the atmosphere tremendously. It's similar to the arguments from people saying WDW's Pirates is better than Disneyland's. I've seen a few people claim that, but i'm just not able to fathom why. WDW just feels like largely the same experience in a very cut down form.

I don't like Kali due to the shortness and an inherent dislike for that type of ride system. But it IS one of the better of its kind i've seen due to the scenery. Still I wouldn't miss it.

I DO really like Navi River a lot. I realize i'm sort of in the minority on that one (and it IS too short), at least in terms of how much I like it. I'm pretty meh on simulators, and Flight of Passage didn't win me over there (it's a decent and enjoyable ride, but not a priority for me at the park). Navi River I found lovely, charming and peaceful. But again, weird minority opinion from me.

 

[Kman101]

I've explained my reasons and supported them with examples. You don't have to agree, but don't dismiss me as somebody who just is a contrarian for the sake of complaining. Every time I've explained my opinions, there are always those who agree.

There will always be some who agree. You just have a pattern that some of us have noticed. You're certainly entitled to feel how you feel. But you constantly make things out to be less than at WDW. You do. You may not think you do, but you do.

 

[Professortango1]

There will always be some who agree. You just have a pattern that some of us have noticed. You're certainly entitled to feel how you feel. But you constantly make things out to be less than at WDW. You do. You may not think you do, but you do.

I'm aware. I enjoy WDW, but I did find the lack of crowds and far fewer attractions left many of the parks feeling like they weren't full day parks. I also feel like the tech featured on the attractions hasn't been updated in awhile.

I've also expressed my love for AK's themeing, Skipper Canteen, Epcot, TSMM's loading area, TOT's facade and queue, etc.

 

[Little Green Men]

I DO really like Navi River a lot. I realize i'm sort of in the minority on that one (and it IS too short), at least in terms of how much I like it. I'm pretty meh on simulators, and Flight of Passage didn't win me over there (it's a decent and enjoyable ride, but not a priority for me at the park). Navi River I found lovely, charming and peaceful. But again, weird minority opinion from me.

I completely agree with this

 

[Princess Leia]

So I think it’s because I’ve been keeping up with this thread, but I had a dream last night that they turned off all the sound for Dinosaur. Made for an interesting ride.