Is California Grill appropriate for small kids?

[Deadmanwalking]

And I suppose your sense of charm is an aphrodisiac to women the world over. Teenage girls writing "mrs. deadmanwalking" in the margins of their notebook and such.

Ironic, the one guy willing to try to play along with your awful joke, so you would come across as something less than a total load to other forum members, is the guy you choose to attack personally. I guess that's one of those "I'd never join a cub that'd have me as a member" kinda things.

Don't worry, I'll let you twist in the wind solo from now on. Enjoy the view.

I'll also make a note... Slappy Magoo... likes to dish it out but can't take it... Noted.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

I believe in a firm spanking, and not merely a "tap". But when I refer to "blistering a bottom", I don't necessarily mean that literally. I doubt that I would spank to such an extent as to literally leave blisters. That probably is going to extremes.

But as you know, I prefer to use colorful language to illustrate my points...just like the discussion we had before about me wanting to "slap those kids upside the head" (refering to the mouthy kids on that TV show). Maybe I shouldn't use such imagery if people have such a hard time telling whether I'm being literal or just embellishing my point a little. But that's just the way I tend to type.

And here I thought you were going to put little Jack or Jill on a hot griddle.

I think everyone knows that you had no intention of actually blistering anyones backside. You just have to remember that there are a lot of liberal nut jobs that believe you can reason with a 2 year old and that having quiet time means anything... I've seen too many kids raised like that and end up on ADD meds because mommy and daddy can't understand why little Jack or Jill wont mind and acts like a tazmanian devil on acid.

So don't listen to the liberal nuts, go ahead and blister their backside for the good of all mankind.... just remember to put a few drops of olive on on the griddle first so their backsides don't stick.

 

[WDWFigment]

acts like a tazmanian devil on acid.

:ROFLOL::ROFLOL::ROFLOL:

If/When I have kids and they can manage to accurately impersonate a tazmanian devil on acid, I might just let them. The behavior I'm imagining is simply hilarious!

 

[sbkline]

And here I thought you were going to put little Jack or Jill on a hot griddle.

I think everyone knows that you had no intention of actually blistering anyones backside. You just have to remember that there are a lot of liberal nut jobs that believe you can reason with a 2 year old and that having quiet time means anything... I've seen too many kids raised like that and end up on ADD meds because mommy and daddy can't understand why little Jack or Jill wont mind and acts like a tazmanian devil on acid.

So don't listen to the liberal nuts, go ahead and blister their backside for the good of all mankind.... just remember to put a few drops of olive on on the griddle first so their backsides don't stick.

And I thought *I* was good at using colorful illustrations to convey my point! :ROFLOL: :ROFLOL:

 

[maggiegrace1]

And here I thought you were going to put little Jack or Jill on a hot griddle.

I think everyone knows that you had no intention of actually blistering anyones backside. You just have to remember that there are a lot of liberal nut jobs that believe you can reason with a 2 year old and that having quiet time means anything... I've seen too many kids raised like that and end up on ADD meds because mommy and daddy can't understand why little Jack or Jill wont mind and acts like a tazmanian devil on acid.

So don't listen to the liberal nuts, go ahead and blister their backside for the good of all mankind.... just remember to put a few drops of olive on on the griddle first so their backsides don't stick.

 

[sbkline]

Getting this thread somewhat back on topic, especially now that MaggieGrace is here, perhaps this would be a good time to throw out the idea that if you even have to wonder if CG is appropriate for your youngins, then perhaps they're too young to be bringing to WDW in the first place. :lol:

Now, maybe I'd better scram before MaggieGrace blisters MY backside...

 

[slappy magoo]

I'll also make a note... Slappy Magoo... likes to dish it out but can't take it... Noted.

Well, considering you thought I was "dishing it out" in the first place, I guess it's pretty obvious to say you can't "take it" either. Otherwise, there'd be no need for the cheap personal shot...oh, I forgot, you only speak cheap personal shot-ese...

15-Love, your serve.

 

[maggiegrace1]

Getting this thread somewhat back on topic, especially now that MaggieGrace is here, perhaps this would be a good time to throw out the idea that if you even have to wonder if CG is appropriate for your youngins, then perhaps they're too young to be bringing to WDW in the first place. :lol:

Now, maybe I'd better scram before MaggieGrace blisters MY backside...

:fork:

 

[sbkline]

:fork:

Ouch!!!

:lol:

 

[hls1023]

And this is EXACTLY the reason why my husband and I are probably not having children. Abuse aside....I don't want someone telling me what is the right and wrong way to disipline my child. I know when I was young my dad whooped our a**es if we acted up and neither of us considered ourselves "abused". But you have some people who think that slapping a childs hand or spanking their bottom means that they're taking an uppercut to the chin and your knocking them across the room. If no corporal punishment works for you...great. I was spanked as a child and I thank my parents for it. I still was allowed to act like a kid (when it was appropriate) and there where times when you didn't act like a whiney little a**.

 

[sbkline]

And this is EXACTLY the reason why my husband and I are probably not having children. Abuse aside....I don't want someone telling me what is the right and wrong way to disipline my child. I know when I was young my dad whooped our a**es if we acted up and neither of us considered ourselves "abused". But you have some people who think that slapping a childs hand or spanking their bottom means that they're taking an uppercut to the chin and your knocking them across the room. If no corporal punishment works for you...great. I was spanked as a child and I thank my parents for it. I still was allowed to act like a kid (when it was appropriate) and there where times when you didn't act like a whiney little a**.

Amen to that!

 

[maggiegrace1]

And this is EXACTLY the reason why my husband and I are probably not having children. Abuse aside....I don't want someone telling me what is the right and wrong way to disipline my child. I know when I was young my dad whooped our a**es if we acted up and neither of us considered ourselves "abused". But you have some people who think that slapping a childs hand or spanking their bottom means that they're taking an uppercut to the chin and your knocking them across the room. If no corporal punishment works for you...great. I was spanked as a child and I thank my parents for it. I still was allowed to act like a kid (when it was appropriate) and there where times when you didn't act like a whiney little a**.

Im not telling anyone how to raise your child..But when you say things like Blistering their behinds or Slapping them upside the head..well that is not discipline that is abuse...

Tapping their hand and popping their bottom is so different then the other two things I have issues with..

Like I said earlier..discipline does not have to mean that you hurt them.

 

[sbkline]

Im not telling anyone how to raise your child..But when you say things like Blistering their behinds or Slapping them upside the head..well that is not discipline that is abuse...

Tapping their hand and popping their bottom is so different then the other two things I have issues with..

Like I said earlier..discipline does not have to mean that you hurt them.

It depends what you mean by "hurt".

Because the whole point is discipline and punishment, which, by definition, isn't supposed to be pleasant. For example, I've seen my wife give my son a loving pat on the bottom which looks harder than some of her so called "spanks". So if the spank on the bottom is softer than a loving pat, then how can you call that any kind of spanking or discipline?

So naturally, if you spank your child, the whole point is to inflict a reasonable amount of pain so that the child knows that he is in trouble and that a spanking is something he doesn't want.

Now we can all agree that there is a line between corporal punishment and child abuse. The problem is in defining that line. To some, any kind of physical punishment is abuse. And to others, slapping the person silly is acceptable.

We just saw the "Sound of Music" play the other day, and it reminded my of how I've always joked around about how I was gonna raise my kids: blow the whistle and they all come marching out in uniform and stand at attention. We won't have to worry about THOSE kids misbehaving in the restaraunt. :lol:

But if my kids are anything like me (and this first one seems to be), I doubt I'll have much luck with that!

 

[maggiegrace1]

It depends what you mean by "hurt".

Because the whole point is discipline and punishment, which, by definition, isn't supposed to be pleasant. For example, I've seen my wife give my son a loving pat on the bottom which looks harder than some of her so called "spanks". So if the spank on the bottom is softer than a loving pat, then how can you call that any kind of spanking or discipline?

So naturally, if you spank your child, the whole point is to inflict a reasonable amount of pain so that the child knows that he is in trouble and that a spanking is something he doesn't want.

Now we can all agree that there is a line between corporal punishment and child abuse. The problem is in defining that line. To some, any kind of physical punishment is abuse. And to others, slapping the person silly is acceptable.

We just saw the "Sound of Music" play the other day, and it reminded my of how I vowed I was gonna raise my kids: blow the whistle and they all come marching out in uniform and stand at attention. We won't have to worry about THOSE kids misbehaving in the restaraunt. :lol:

Oh ya...and then I woke up!

Well see I do not think it should "hurt" at all..Why would you want to hurt your child?

Aren't you as a parent supposed to protect them from hurt?
Why would you yourself do something that hurts them?:shrug:

What is a reasonable amount of pain?
How do you know what hurts them reasonably or seriously?

I know that their are some kids who can tolerate a lot of pain (My Maggie) and some can not handle even a little bit of it..so how do you know what is enough?

I guess not everyone will ever agree on things like this...

 

[slappy magoo]

Well see I do not think it should "hurt" at all..Why would you want to hurt your child?

Aren't you as a parent supposed to protect them from hurt?
Why would you yourself do something that hurts them?:shrug:

You seem to be assuming that everyone who believes in spanking as punishment wants to hurt their children. And while there are some awful parents who think a shot in the mouth is an all-purpose problem solver, it's unfair to compare a spanking for a truly out of control & unrepentant child to an abusive parent, just as it would be unfair to assume all non-spanking parents are poor disciplinarians raising a future army of selfish spoiled miscreants.

Since I don't have kids, I won't say any more...

 

[sarabi]

I seem to recall a post in which the OP asked if it was appropriate to bring children to the California Grill. Now if only I could remember where I saw that post... oh yeah! It was THIS POST!

People, you are destroying the thread! I don't care what you think about how other people discipline their kids and frankly, no one does. Give parenting advice and it will go in one ear and out the other. Take it somewhere else (private messaging? A parenting forum?), but answer the OP's question.

 

[maggiegrace1]

You seem to be assuming that everyone who believes in spanking as punishment wants to hurt their children. And while there are some awful parents who think a shot in the mouth is an all-purpose problem solver, it's unfair to compare a spanking for a truly out of control & unrepentant child to an abusive parent, just as it would be unfair to assume all non-spanking parents are poor disciplinarians raising a future army of selfish spoiled miscreants.

Since I don't have kids, I won't say any more...

No..I was responding to this comment of his...
"The whole point is to inflict a reasonable amount of pain"

Why would you want to cause any amount of pain to your child?:shrug:

I never said you should not ever spank or tap a child..but if you are intending to do it to make them hurt or feel pain..well yes.. to me..that is abuse...

 

[hls1023]

No..I was responding to this comment of his...
"The whole point is to inflict a reasonable amount of pain"

Why would you want to cause any amount of pain to your child?:shrug:

I never said you should not ever spank or tap a child..but if you are intending to do it to make them hurt or feel pain..well yes.. to me..that is abuse...

This is like arguing about religion or politics...agree to disagree.....

 

[maggiegrace1]

This is like arguing about religion or politics...agree to disagree.....

Oh..I did a long time ago if you read up...:wave:
Thanks for your words of wisdom

 

[Deadmanwalking]

Well, considering you thought I was "dishing it out" in the first place, I guess it's pretty obvious to say you can't "take it" either. Otherwise, there'd be no need for the cheap personal shot...oh, I forgot, you only speak cheap personal shot-ese...

15-Love, your serve.

Oh... you so witty... make me ________ myself... Oh... sorry... didn't mean to get you all excited.... figure of speech... okay... calm down... calm down.