I’m usually there at peak times due to school schedules, so my view is probably biased. The last time couple of times I booked it felt like all the deluxes excepting OKW and SS were 800+ with no discounts. It’s frustrating when even a resort like Boardwalk is going for top rates. Looking at holiday season 2024 it does seem like that’s settling down a bit.
The All Stars are Motel 6s. The deluxes are really no better than most high end off site ones
I actually prefer the mods to the deluxes. Which deluxe ones have you stayed in and how recently? I’m surprised to hear people have that opinion of them.
As currently comprised, no.
That’s where all the variable pricing stuff someone earlier mentioned (maybe you?) really bites them. Sure, it may help prop up resort bookings, but you’ve now cannibalized your G+ revenue.
I said this a couple weeks ago and people jumped down my throat. Genie+ ≠ FP+. We saw that resort guests cannibalized the “E-ticket” selections at the 60 day window for FP+…. capacity has not increased. There’s only a few options on how they could offer Genie+ to resort guests for free (imo) is to INCREASE the total amount of LLs issued daily which would mess up the system even further than it already is. Another option would be for them to set like 30% of LL capacity to resort guests. I don’t see that happening either. At the end of the day any inclusion of Genie+ for “free” will not be free, room rates will gradually go up as the resorts shell out the cost to the parks for this new amenity. Maybe an earlier pre-book window that’s exclusive for resort guests? Maybe one free LL/ daily per guest for resort guests? That’s as far as I can see it going. The parks are not built up enough to be offering this benefit as is. GR receives plenty of complaints about Genie+ now, take 30% (this is just my rough estimate) of capacity “offline” from regular *paying* guests? Complaints will skyrocket
I think it would be doable but would have to involve pre-set times. Or at the very least, time selection. After all, FastPass used to be available to everyone and still work, but only with the pre bookings. I think the thing with Genie is that it forces everyone into the first available spot, resulting in more inefficiency. By design, the first part of the day will fill up quickly, even if some people actually wanted evening times.
I have 2 thoughts.
I always associate rooms that open to the outside instead of a hallway (so like the moderates and values) as lower end hotels/motels. I know multiple people in my company that outward facing doors would automatically eliminate that hotel from a business trip. So taking away all the extra perks from them, I can see the thought of them being way overpriced motels (I wouldn't compare directly to a Motel 6 personally, but I do get it).
A not-insignificant factor in building Gran Destino, actually.
Disney loves these folks and hope the feel this way for their pleasure trips when they are spending their own money and have to get rooms for entire family.
No, they don't. These are the types of people who will stay off site if it means having an interior hallway to their room. The types that have a lot of Hilton or Mariott points already. Ones who have a decent income, but aren't going to pay $700 to stay in a room.
I was thinking these types of folks would book a deluxe Disney resort no matter what perks were lost over time.
Orlando's ballooning inventory of vacation home rentals is viewed, internally, as a far greater threat to WDW's resort hotel portfolio than anything Universal is doing.
Yup - US 192 is a nightmare, and will sometimes back up onto World Drive and congest roads onto WDW property. They just started work on I4 from Sand Lake through Championsgate, so it'll become (hopefully) easier to stay offsite in a few years with less traffic headaches.
That they haven't put one at Crescent Lake, TTAC, and perhaps the All Star complex boggles my mind.
