Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Don't you dare visit this week and complain about crowds.

I’ll continue to be honest and you’ll be forced to choke on it

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I watched Resort1TV tonight and they left Main street and went to the Contemporary balcony due to the crowds and to get a good look at the 360 fireworks.

No 360s

 

[GhostHost1000]

Hell on a Saturday…

See there. Crowds this week prove Iger is doing a fabulous job and there is no need for concern.

You can tell from Josh’s pop up video on the resort tv just how happy he is.

Most will say it’s just because it’s the holiday season, but I think we all know people are flocking there to experience Moana’s fountains and see the Rainforest Cafe Tiana’s Mountain construction progress

 

[Ayla]

I’ll continue to be honest and you’ll be forced to choke on it

Hey, I'm not the one that continually loudly complains about WDW, yet continues to visit.

Anyone who knows the slightest thing about Disney knows it is going to be slammed this week...including you. Don't complain about it being hell when you fully knew that before you booked.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

So if we compare Jan. ‘22 through Apr. 22 to Jan. ‘23 through Apr. ‘23, we see more red in ‘23.

This clearly shows wait times were worse in ‘23.

So is it a true statement that attendance is down in ‘23 compared to ‘22 but wait times are up in ‘23 compared to ‘22?

I have not found attendance numbers to compare ‘22 to ‘23, Jan. Through Apr. , but all you hear is how attendance is down at WDW.

Is it true there were less people in the park in ‘23 compared to ‘22?

If it’s true that there is less people in the park but the wait times are higher, the problem must be Genie+

Well there isn't any concrete data just commentary from Iger in earnings that it is down (but no idea of degree)

Also could be shorter park hours, more downtime for rides, less streetmosphere and "other stuff" to keep people out of lines. Could just be changing guest behavior that more focus on rides and less on doing "other stuff" than in the past

G+ could play a role too and some of that being human nature of when you pay for something you are going to want to maximize your use of is vs when FP+ was included and not an extra cost (I know that is true for me)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

See there. Crowds this week prove Iger is doing a fabulous job and there is no need for concern.

You can tell from Josh’s pop up video on the resort tv just how happy he is.

Most will say it’s just because it’s the holiday season, but I think we all know people are flocking there to experience Moana’s fountains and see the Rainforest Cafe Tiana’s Mountain construction progress

…and Moana is a nice path diversion…the kind of thing they need about 20 of constructed with little fanfare.

Not an “attraction”

 

[Lilofan]

Hell on a Saturday…

Had to do a double take - guests dressed for a winter's storm.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Had to do a double take - guests dressed for a winter's storm.

They’re nuts

It was in the 50s

 

[JoeCamel]

…and Moana is a nice path diversion…the kind of thing they need about 20 of constructed with little fanfare.

Not an “attraction”

But it's interactive...... More than the shade sails were

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But it's interactive...... More than the shade sails were

Not much more interesting

It’s just the misters and fountains that they slowly removed over the years

 

[networkpro]

They’re nuts

It was in the 50s

BRRRR!

 

[JoeCamel]

Not much more interesting

It’s just the misters and fountains that they slowly removed over the years

Ohhh ecofriendly, repurposing old equipment now there is an Epcot edu moment......

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Hey, I'm not the one that continually loudly complains about WDW, yet continues to visit.

Anyone who knows the slightest thing about Disney knows it is going to be slammed this week...including you. Don't complain about it being hell when you fully knew that before you booked.

Where did you get all that crap you just loaded up into that diatribe?

I know exactly what I’m getting here. And you need to lighten up a little.

Will I lie about what’s good and bad?
No…I will not…to the end…

 

[Ayla]

Where did you get all that crap you just loaded up into that diatribe?

I know exactly what I’m getting here. And you need to lighten up a little.

Will I lie about what’s good and bad?
No…I will not…to the end…

Ok.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Even if there is a Disney spreadsheet somewhere that indicates the attendance is “lower” relative to years past, we all know it’s MOBBED for NYE.

I would love to see the spreadsheet that shows the prices for everything today and the number of cast members on duty today compared to years past.

Success or failure of the parks should not be measured in attendance. Success or failure should be measured by the guest experience; guest satisfaction.

Having said that, Disney can spin up any survey results they want saying anything they want.

 

[Lilofan]

Even if there is a Disney spreadsheet somewhere that indicates the attendance is “lower” relative to years past, we all know it’s MOBBED for NYE.

I would love to see the spreadsheet that shows the prices for everything today and the number of cast members on duty today compared to years past.

Success or failure of the parks should not be measured in attendance. Success or failure should be measured by the guest experience; guest satisfaction.

Having said that, Disney can spin up any survey results they want saying anything they want.

Wall Street and shareholders won't buy into this. Success or failure in a business like parks and resorts are measured by profits. Disney stock is tied into my 401K but I'm not walking on a tightrope without a net so its sandwiched into mutual funds I'm invested which have done very well long term.

 

[plutofan15]

Not much more interesting

It’s just the misters and fountains that they slowly removed over the years

We were there from 12/20 - 12/24. Everyone that I saw enjoyed Moana and left with a smile, even my two teenage kids. To each their own I suppose but looked to be a success from what I saw.

 

[plutofan15]

Where did you get all that crap you just loaded up into that diatribe?

I know exactly what I’m getting here. And you need to lighten up a little.

Will I lie about what’s good and bad?
No…I will not…to the end…

Wow, a little sensitive.

 

[drizgirl]

We were there from 12/20 - 12/24. Everyone that I saw enjoyed Moana and left with a smile, even my two teenage kids. To each their own I suppose but looked to be a success from what I saw.

I'm sure it's nice for what it is. But it shouldn't have taken multiple years to complete, even in a pandemic. And it should be filler, not a destination attraction.

 

[Ayla]

Wow, a little sensitive.

Being called out on hypocrisy makes some defensive.

Though my post being called a "diatribe" by the King of Diatribes was an awesome way to end 2023.