Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

Andrew25

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Disney doesn't need a 5th gate... they just need smart capacity improvements.
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Orange - new viewing areas currently utilized by gardens or dining areas.
Left Yellow - Casey's replaced by expanded Emporium space
Bottom Right Yellow - relocated Casey's in a "fulltime" Main Street bypass with more than enough seating and can accomodate more capacity.
Blue - Tomorrowland Terrace is replaced with a proper/dedicated space for VIP and dessert viewing. Turf spaces previously utilized by VIP is now made public via Lightning Lane 🤑
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Disney doesn't need a 5th gate... they just need smart capacity improvements.
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Orange - new viewing areas currently utilized by gardens or dining areas.
Left Yellow - Casey's replaced by expanded Emporium space
Bottom Right Yellow - relocated Casey's in a "fulltime" Main Street bypass with more than enough seating and can accomodate more capacity.
Blue - Tomorrowland Terrace is replaced with a proper/dedicated space for VIP and dessert viewing. Turf spaces previously utilized by VIP is now made public via Lightning Lane 🤑

…you’ll get neither…

And get up at 6:30 to book a lightning lane for it 🤪
 

Jenny72

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Just a minor anecdote, and maybe everyone else was already aware of this.

I was just messing around with some dates in February for a possible short trip. At my first search I noticed that a ton of hotels were seemingly booked up. I was like, wow, maybe this is a really busy time and a lot of people are booking again. But then I started adding dates to either end of the trip to bring it closer to a week, and suddenly a bunch of hotels showed availability. So it can't be that they were booked, since I didn't shift dates but instead extended the trip. It makes it hard to know how busy things really are. But what's the deal with not being able to stay at (for example) Carribean Beach unless we go for 6+ days?

(For what it's worth, now that I've seen the prices, we're almost definitely not going to go anyway. We must have gotten a killer deal last summer because everything is much more than double what we paid. At the time I was wondering why everyone said the hotel prices were too high, but now I see what you mean.)
 

Ayla

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Just a minor anecdote, and maybe everyone else was already aware of this.

I was just messing around with some dates in February for a possible short trip. At my first search I noticed that a ton of hotels were seemingly booked up. I was like, wow, maybe this is a really busy time and a lot of people are booking again. But then I started adding dates to either end of the trip to bring it closer to a week, and suddenly a bunch of hotels showed availability. So it can't be that they were booked, since I didn't shift dates but instead extended the trip. It makes it hard to know how busy things really are. But what's the deal with not being able to stay at (for example) Carribean Beach unless we go for 6+ days?

(For what it's worth, now that I've seen the prices, we're almost definitely not going to go anyway. We must have gotten a killer deal last summer because everything is much more than double what we paid. At the time I was wondering why everyone said the hotel prices were too high, but now I see what you mean.)
Disney started blocking out short stays 5-6 years ago.
 

Jenny72

Well-Known Member
Ok, I figured y'all would know about this. But...it heavily discourages me from going to WDW for our little trip, since the available hotels are not great. (For instance, we can have Coronado Springs for over $1000/night or the value resorts, which my husband will not consider.) To be fair, the prices are already pretty discouraging, but is this a good strategy? There's no way we'll go if these are our only options. I don't get it, when they're trying to entice more visitors.
 

bmr1591

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Ok, I figured y'all would know about this. But...it heavily discourages me from going to WDW for our little trip, since the available hotels are not great. (For instance, we can have Coronado Springs for over $1000/night or the value resorts, which my husband will not consider.) To be fair, the prices are already pretty discouraging, but is this a good strategy? There's no way we'll go if these are our only options. I don't get it, when they're trying to entice more visitors.

I was lucky enough to have a friend gift us a weekend at AKL through her DVC points. After staying, I'd never consider paying $500+ a night to stay in a studio there. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice hotel, but I'm only sleeping there. $1000+ is insane to me.

If I were you, I'd look at some DVC point rental groups on Facebook and see if you could book a resort through them. It's often half the price of what Disney charges.
 

Fido Chuckwagon

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I’ve been in Disney World since December 20th. I’ve never experienced Christmas Crowds this low before and I’ve been coming at this time for years (except for 2020, wasn’t here that year). Yesterday at Epcot felt like a typical fall day. At festive of the holidays none of the food booths had a line longer than a few people at night. The France booth had no line at 7:30 pm which is a thing I’ve never seen at any festival, ever.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I’ve been in Disney World since December 20th. I’ve never experienced Christmas Crowds this low before and I’ve been coming at this time for years (except for 2020, wasn’t here that year). Yesterday at Epcot felt like a typical fall day. At festive of the holidays none of the food booths had a line longer than a few people at night. The France booth had no line at 7:30 pm which is a thing I’ve never seen at any festival, ever.
One of the last lines I would stand in is at France to buy and eat a crepe.
 

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