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orlandoparks

orlandoparks

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Originally posted by MrPromey


Yes, and more than I would be about the way it is in IOA....

Dragons wouldn't have been that difficult to theme to at least a small degree, instead of spitting you out of the castle and away from all theme, they could have built up crumbling "towers" around some of the supports that the coasters could have swerved through. They could have added sound effects so that you hear a roar or something when the dragons pass each other. One is themed fire and the other ice, they could have done something cool with hot and cold chambers - going through tunnels, sort of like the dragons lair... A lot of simple stuff like that which wouldn't distract terribly from the ride, the tower things (like the dragon - castle scene in the movie Shreck) would have actually made the ride more thrilling since it would appear like you were going to slam or bump against something every other second. With the expense and effort they put into the line, the things I mentioned wouldn't have been that big of a deal to actually implement on the ride itself and we would have had more than just a line with a theme... This would have made it more of a theme park ride instead of the amusement park ride that it actually is... BTW, Dragons and the Hulk, two (or 3) signature attractions are incredibly cheap by Orlando standards... You call up B&M place your order and they even show up to put it together. Bush Gardens has done it a couple of times to boost attendance and those kinds of rides and such things are expected out of them as a sort of second rate theme park that leans more in the direction of amusement park when it comes to rides... And what's funny is that even though their coasters are older, Bush Gardens FL, still holds a higher average rating in the top 20 steel coasters than IOA does and theirs were also made by B&M.People talk like DIsney is being cheap for not putting these kinds of coasters in but they don't seem to realize that these coasters are cheap (relatively speaking) with an initial proposed budget of $200 million dollars Disney could easily have stuck a B&M coaster in all four of it's Florida parks with plenty of cash to spare... Disney aside, I still think Universal Studios Florida is a better theme park than IOA even if the bulk of it's attractions haven't been kept up well over the years.
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In defense of DD, the ice dragon does have a part where it almost hits the castle. DD is supposed to be two dragons dueling, so I don't see what is so wrong with them "dueling" outside. If they were actually outside a castle, which is what you are supposed to think, I think that would be pretty much what it would look like. As for the sound effects, don't you think that it would look, or sound, cheap? The only reason Disney does not go with the good coasters, is that they don't like B&M.
 
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pheneix

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>>>One can hardly say that ToT was responsible for the majority of visits to MGM prior to 2000.<<<

It did a pretty good job of helping though. Remember how poorly MGM was recieved in it's first few years? The lack of space, too few attractions, the scathing reviews? Most of these dissappeared after TOT opened, and over the two years that TOT opened and word spread about it, attendance spiked by nearly three million.

>>>I’m thinking that might be why a lot of people in this forum aren’t in clear agreement with you much of the time.<<<

Judging by the countless posts about how ed people are with Disney management, I think differently.
 
CmdrTostada

CmdrTostada

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I have only seen countless post about how ed people are about disney management mostly made by you pheneix. Do you refer to yourself as people? No offense but you do seem to have a very big bias for universal.
 
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Quentin Disney

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Originally posted by pheneix

Judging by the countless posts about how ed people are with Disney management, I think differently.
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Not trying to change your opinion here. You might have been there already, but have you checked out the rumors and news board over at Disboards? They have this infamous "carpool" system of rating what type of Disney fan you are. Carpool #1 are those that think the magic is as strong as ever, #2 people are those that think the magic as faded a bit but is still great, #3 think its big trouble and #4 are the ones that are never "coming back". I bet your in #3 by the tone of your posts.

BTW, I have seen you on a LOT of Disney message boards. Mousepad, LP and I think one other.
 
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pheneix

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>>>Mousepad, LP and I think one other.<<<

Mousepad? That was a loooong time ago. I haven't been there in quite some time. I was an active poster at MouseInfo, but Marcie's relentless slandering, lies, and all around poor attitude pretty much drowned out any kind of logic I would bring over there. When another person came in to back me up, he was kicked off for being "slanderous and offensive," and soon after myself and several others were kicked off with him, though the webmaster always claimed that they just "left the boards for no reason."

I still post at LP very often though, if I'm not here, I am generally telling bad jokes or starting trouble over there.

>>>I bet your in #3 by the tone of your posts.<<<

Dale Earnhardt was my favorite Nascar driver, so I would be in car #3 regardless. :)
 
Don L Duck

Don L Duck

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I tend to agree with Mr. P and Turbogames, Pheneix.
Most of your post seem slanted not so much towards Universal but against Disney.
Why would you come to a site just to bash something.
No matter how clever you think you might be at hiding it.
I have noticed you are very subtle in your slanted responses.
Not so to give yourself away and just enough to get your point across.
For the longest time I thought it was me but now others are catching on.
That's Just my opinion I could be wrong.
 
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pheneix

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>>>Why would you come to a site just to bash something.<<<

I'm not bashing anything. If I came here and said "I hate Disney and you're all a bunch of f******g freaks!" like that troll did a few weeks ago, then that would be bashing. Another case of bashing would be "Food Rocks sucks!" Oh wait, I did post that, but that is beside the point...

>>>No matter how clever you think you might be at hiding it.
I have noticed you are very subtle in your slanted responses.
Not so to give yourself away and just enough to get your point across.<<<

No offense, but you are really speculating about something that isn't there. That is also a very brash assumption, and what you are assuming is not accurate. But if that is the way you feel, then fine. Maybe I should have made an "I love Pooh" post before jumping into a debate. ;)
 
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pheneix

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Since I have now been labeled a Universal apologist, maybe I should point out this little post I made in another thread earlier this evening:

>>>As you all may know (or not, UO's marketing department has done a good job of not telling a soul about the new shows AGAIN), Universal Orlando has now started nightly fireworks until August 10. I'm wondering, has anyone been out there to see them since they began earlier this month? The reason I am asking is because last year's (or maybe it was Spring Break) show was, well... pathetic. IOA's show in particular was such a stunning craptacular that I felt compelled to stop in South Carolina and see if I could make a backyard fireworks display of my own that could match it. I think mine was better.<<<

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.phps=&threadid=11580

See, I'm an equal opportunity basher. ;)
 
CmdrTostada

CmdrTostada

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I dont really care if people like universal better than disney. I can honestly say that pheneix isnt a total universal fanboy. He just like certain aspects of Universal better than disney. If I go see the Universal fastpass system I might like it better than disneys, but right now I cant bash it.
 
Don L Duck

Don L Duck

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I am not trying to insult you it just seems to me and a few others that your comments are slanted in a very anti disney way.
There is no need for sarcasm I was just voicing my opinion.
Ah tis a gift we are giving is to see ourselves as others see us.
(old scottish proverb)
I read that post you are referring to and it's the only one that I have seen that is against UA.
but there are plenty of examples of my opinion.
 
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pheneix

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>>>I am not trying to insult you<<<

I know you're not, otherwise I would have clicked on the little "report to moderator" button. But you did come across as a little arrogant in your last post, and what you said definitely struck a chord.

>>>I read that post you are referring to and it's the only one that I have seen that is against UA.<<<

I tend to trash Vivendi and the French Clown (Messier) on a regular basis if you want that to count. :)
 
CmdrTostada

CmdrTostada

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I heard a joke once. I was watching a comedian and he said " I dont even think the French have a word for victory" But you guys just need to stop fighting. cool it down:lol:
 
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JLW11Hi

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I heard a joke once. I was watching a comedian and he said " I dont even think the French have a word for victory"
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aHA! "victoire" is French for victory.

I'm sorry, I had to say that. :hammer:

Ok, I'll go to sleep.
:snore:
 

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