"If I could improve Walt Disney World..." 2.0

[ScorpionX]

Well, maybe we could have some silent characters as streetmosphere performers on Hollywood Boulevard.

As for Toontown, I do want that, but because it's in this park and not a castle park, it's going to be difficult to replicate Disneyland's Toontown without houses. And since it's in a different park, it should look somewhat different. In fact, I even have made a whole thread on the subject: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=715729.

To keep with the studio theme, the houses could be replaced with trailers.

 

[comics101]

To keep with the studio theme, the houses could be replaced with trailers.

I LOVE this idea!!! That's great.

What if an area similar to Toon Studios in DLP is created, but it would be bigger. There'd be two sublands, ToonTown, the Hollywood of toons, and Toon Studio, where the toons come to film there movies.

Here are some very quick ideas I've thrown together. Please feel free to change whatever you'd like.

ToonTown
Mickey's ToonTown Spin-Dark Ride (I wasn't sure if you'd want to include Roger Rabbit or not_
Goofy Mouse Coaster (needs a name)
*Daisy's Diner

Toon Studios
DuckTales: Raiders of the Lost Lamp-Family Coaster
Donald's Boat- http://www.theneverlandfiles.com/tnf/disneyworld/donaldsboat.php
A facade would be built behind it in order to give it a movie studio look.
Mickey's Trailer
Minnie's Trailer
*Toon Studio Commissary (Think House of Mouse with a movie studio theme)

Like I said, those are some quick ideas and the names pretty much suck. But I figure you guys'll probably change most of it anyways

I was just thinking, what if the trailer was the queue to a much more elaborate M&G...you'd slowly be led onto a soundstage where Mickey's filming either Steamboat Willie, or The Sorcerer's Apprentice (changes throughout the day) and you're invited to be an extra in the film. This would not only include a M&G, but also a fun game and some interaction.

 

[mharrington]

Actually, I'm trying to drop the studio identity once and for all. That's why I renamed the park Disney Hollywood Adventure.

As for the house replacement, I came up with a Toon-themed hotel for a meet-n-greet, with Mickey and the gang in different rooms. And you're right, I am hesitant about adding Roger Rabbit, mainly with all the legalities and whatnot.

I've actually come up with a couple other things, and I even thought of a storyline around it. But I'm holding off on that until I get all the updates in.

 

[WereMagicLives]

Anyway, I have several ideas for the parks. I'll start with brand-new additions and then I'll do updated attractions. I'll start with the Magic Kingdom:

• Main Street U.S.A.
  • Walt Disney - One Man's Dream: Disneyland - The "One Man's Dream" attraction at DHS will now be broken up into individual components and scattered to all the parks. In the case of the MK, a section on the Disney theme parks, especially Disneyland, will be displayed at the Main Street Cinema.
• Adventureland
  • Pirate's Treetop Lair - A new treetop walkthrough and featuring interactive, climbing and scenic opportunities, featuring elements of Disney's "Pirates of the Caribbean" film series (replaces Swiss Family Treehouse).
  • Jungle Expedition - Choose your vehicle as the Jungle (River) Cruise is invaded by a Jungle Land Trek, an edgier jeep safari in this interactive, tongue-in-cheek, dueling tour of the jungles of the world (thanks to stitchcastle for this idea).
• Frontierland
  • Mike Fink Keelboats - This is not necessarily a brand-new addition, but it hasn't been here for a while, so it will be a return. It will now load in the area that the Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes used to load.
  • Woody's Roundup - A dark ride themed to the "Woody's Roundup" mythology from the "Toy Story" series.
• Fantasyland
  • The Adventures of Pinocchio - A giant dark ride in the tradition of Tokyo Disneyland's Pooh's Hunny Hunt, travel with Pinocchio as he faces many temptations in his efforts to become a real boy.
• Tomorrowland
  • StormRider - A new 3D simulator ride based on the one at Tokyo DisneySea, take a flight right into the center of a powerful storm!
  • Highway of Tomorrow - Take a drive along a scenic drive along the Highway of Tomorrow (1950s-type tomorrow, that is) in a futuristic, yet environmentally-friendly car (replaces Tomorrowland Indy Speedway).

What do you think? Next time, I will do Epcot.

personally i think every idea in this post is idiotic if MK is going to get anything new it has to be in tomorrow land and it should be something Tron related

 

[mharrington]

personally i think every idea in this post is idiotic if MK is going to get anything new it has to be in tomorrow land and it should be something Tron related

Why does everything have to be in Tomorrowland and why does everything in Tomorrowland have to be Tron-related?

 

[comics101]

personally i think every idea in this post is idiotic if MK is going to get anything new it has to be in tomorrow land and it should be something Tron related

OUCH, idiotic's a really harsh term, and your suggestion probably would've been much better recieved had you not used it.

As for a Tron attraction, yeah that'd be neat, although I've never seen the films and from what I understand neither did very well at the box office...probably would stil make a sweet ride though. But I actually think the Highway of Tomorrow sounds pretty sweet...

 

[mharrington]

Here is the last little bit (for now) of DHA: Toontown, which will be located over where the Studio Backlot Tour is now. And there will be nothing studio-like about it. The attractions so far:

• Toontown Hotel - A fancy meet-n-greet for Mickey and the gang in a new Toon hotel.
• Fantasia: The Ride - A water coaster ride themed to Walt Disney's landmark film, "Fantasia", set inside a fancy movie palace! Features FastPass and a Single Rider line.

...and that's it for the moment. We will have some more new attractions, but I'm really hesitant about doing anything "Roger Rabbit"-related, because of legal issues.

 

[mharrington]

I've been thinking about what to do with the buildings that will no longer house OMD, Narnia and Voyage of the Little Mermaid. Maybe that's where we can expand Pixar Place. But I can't think of anything over there.

And I also need help with the Magic of Disney Animation.

 

[comics101]

I've been thinking about what to do with the buildings that will no longer house OMD, Narnia and Voyage of the Little Mermaid. Maybe that's where we can expand Pixar Place. But I can't think of anything over there.

And I also need help with the Magic of Disney Animation.

What about a history of Pixar Animation Studios...maybe called Generating the Magic: Behind The Scenes of Pixar Animation Studios. As for MoDA, I say either go with a "Great Moments in Disney Animation" darkride, or maybe just update the interactive elements, and have an Exhibit dedicated to Disney Studio history...idk.

 

[ScorpionX]

What about a history of Pixar Animation Studios...maybe called Generating the Magic: Behind The Scenes of Pixar Animation Studios. As for MoDA, I say either go with a "Great Moments in Disney Animation" darkride, or maybe just update the interactive elements, and have an Exhibit dedicated to Disney Studio history...idk.

Generating the Magic: Behind The Scenes of Pixar Animation Studios could be inspired by CNBC's documentary The Pixar Story.

 

[mharrington]

What about a history of Pixar Animation Studios...maybe called Generating the Magic: Behind The Scenes of Pixar Animation Studios. As for MoDA, I say either go with a "Great Moments in Disney Animation" darkride, or maybe just update the interactive elements, and have an Exhibit dedicated to Disney Studio history...idk.

I don't know about any of that stuff. In the case of the "Disney Animation" dark ride, wouldn't that be cannibalizing the Magic Kingdom's movie-themed dark rides in Fantasyland?

And the history exhibits seem too plain, too.

 

[comics101]

I don't know about any of that stuff. In the case of the "Disney Animation" dark ride, wouldn't that be cannibalizing the Magic Kingdom's movie-themed dark rides in Fantasyland?

And the history exhibits seem too plain, too.

Well we'd have to had the details. But as for the I don't think so. For every animated feature you'd have a scene in the ride...in fact not even everyone, just the popular/successful ones.
So starting with Steamboat Willie maybe, you'd have a scene. You'd then move on to Snow White, then Dumbo, all the way to Tangled or something, all the while learning about the animated shorts and the effort and time put into them, and how as time moved on Walt perfected the art...the ride would be a history lesson of the studio maybe...idk. It's an idea that litterally just popped in my head. I've never thought much about it before.

 

[mharrington]

Well we'd have to had the details. But as for the I don't think so. For every animated feature you'd have a scene in the ride...in fact not even everyone, just the popular/successful ones.
So starting with Steamboat Willie maybe, you'd have a scene. You'd then move on to Snow White, then Dumbo, all the way to Tangled or something, all the while learning about the animated shorts and the effort and time put into them, and how as time moved on Walt perfected the art...the ride would be a history lesson of the studio maybe...idk. It's an idea that litterally just popped in my head. I've never thought much about it before.

How can we pick out the scenes, though? And what did you mean by "But as for the I don't think so"?

 

[comics101]

How can we pick out the scenes, though? And what did you mean by "But as for the I don't think so"?

:lol: Idk wat I meant...maybe it was late when I typed that...
As for picking clips, pick clips that are historic or meaningful, etc. They didn't seem to have much of a problem picking clips for GMR...

edit: "As for the canibalizing of FL rides, I don't think so"...hahaha got it!

 

[mharrington]

:lol: Idk wat I meant...maybe it was late when I typed that...
As for picking clips, pick clips that are historic or meaningful, etc. They didn't seem to have much of a problem picking clips for GMR...

edit: "As for the canibalizing of FL rides, I don't think so"...hahaha got it!

But GMR has very few scenes themed to Disney movies, only "Mary Poppins" and, to a lesser degree, "Fantasia".

And the only thing I can think of for Animal Kingdom, besides Beastly Kingdom (which may or may not get a new name): Walt Disney - One Man's Dream: Animals and Nature - The "One Man's Dream" attraction at DHS will now be broken up into individual components and scattered to all the parks. In the case of the Animal Kingdom, an area of Conservation Station/Rafiki's Planet Watch will now be home to an exhibit on Walt's unabashed love for nature ("Bambi", True-Life Adventures, etc.).

 

[comics101]

But GMR has very few scenes themed to Disney movies, only "Mary Poppins" and, to a lesser degree, "Fantasia".

And the only thing I can think of for Animal Kingdom, besides Beastly Kingdom (which may or may not get a new name): Walt Disney - One Man's Dream: Animals and Nature - The "One Man's Dream" attraction at DHS will now be broken up into individual components and scattered to all the parks. In the case of the Animal Kingdom, an area of Conservation Station/Rafiki's Planet Watch will now be home to an exhibit on Walt's unabashed love for nature ("Bambi", True-Life Adventures, etc.).

I don't understand why Disney movies would be harder to choose from than non-Disney movies...

 

[mharrington]

I don't understand why Disney movies would be harder to choose from than non-Disney movies...

Well, the thing is, we have some movie-themed dark rides in the parks. We have Snow White, Pinocchio, Mr. Toad, Alice, Peter Pan, Pooh, Roger Rabbit, and The Little Mermaid. To a lesser degree, we also have some Pixar-themed dark rides, too, themed to Toy Story and Monsters Inc. Granted, not all of the same parks have all the same rides, but how can we do a "Disney Animation" dark ride to replace the animation show at DHS?

 

[El Grupo]

IMO, DHS is not nearly as robust a park as it should be at this stage. Since it has essentially moved away from the working studios theme, some of the old attractions do not carry the same value and significance. With that said, I would make the few changes, most of which are nothing new to this board:

Action/Adventure Area

• Replace Catastrophe Canyon and adjacent operations support building with Indiana Jones Ride (prefer something along the lines of Tokyo Disneyland).

Expanded Pixar Place

• Replace Backlot Tour pre-show building and queue with an Incredibles attraction. Similar concept as TT with dark ride building up to a fast outdoor finish. Elevated outdoor track would either loop along the rooftops of the New York Street buildings or along portions of the former Backlot Tour route. Without going into extensive story details, picture portions of the track and support beams made to appear like ice, an elevated bobsled run compliments of Frozone that allows the ride vehicle to zip along in pursuit of a villain.
• Replace the cast costume building behind TSMM with a Monsters Inc. dark coaster.
• Update Honey movie set playground with A Bug's Life theme.
• Possibly squeeze in a dark Up ride. Two options...

1. Smaller dark ride similar to Peter Pan.
2. Potential alternative to Incredibles on New York Street: ride initially "floats" indoors through various scenes and then outdoors around Streets of America or possibly broader area.

Sci-Fi Area I appreciate the resistance from some to adding more Star Wars elements to DHS. However, it is hard to argue with the marketability of the franchise and any related products. Much of the original audience is now between 45 - 60. The second generation audience is in their late 20s/early 30s. Now, Star Wars: The Clone Wars is introducing the story to millions of kids under the age of 12. Its influence and appeal just continues to grow. With that said...

• Replace Indiana Jones Stunt Show with a Star Wars-themed show. As exciting as it is to see Darth Vader and a multitude of Stormtroopers on Star Wars weekends, imagine them in a full scale show every day.
• Replace the operations buildings behind the stunt show and Backlot Express with a Star Wars E-ticket ride. Let the Imagineers and Lucas go wild. Whether the attraction is set in Coruscant, Hoth, Tatooine, the Death Star or any combination, I suspect the structure and queue could be spectacular if Disney makes the investment. Maybe it's the Jedi temple or the Naboo palace or...
• Of course, Backlot Express converted to the Cantina.

Just some thoughts.

 

[mharrington]

Expanded Pixar Place

• Replace Backlot Tour pre-show building and queue with an Incredibles attraction. Similar concept as TT with dark ride building up to a fast outdoor finish. Elevated outdoor track would either loop along the rooftops of the New York Street buildings or along portions of the former Backlot Tour route. Without going into extensive story details, picture portions of the track and support beams made to appear like ice, an elevated bobsled run compliments of Frozone that allows the ride vehicle to zip along in pursuit of a villain.
• Replace the cast costume building behind TSMM with a Monsters Inc. dark coaster.
• Update Honey movie set playground with A Bug's Life theme.
• Possibly squeeze in a dark Up ride. Two options...

1. Smaller dark ride similar to Peter Pan.
2. Potential alternative to Incredibles on New York Street: ride initially "floats" indoors through various scenes and then outdoors around Streets of America or possibly broader area.

I have different plans for the Backlot Tour area, and it involves a new Toontown, not an expanded Pixar Place. I was originally going to put it in the Magic Kingdom, from an expanded Toontown Fair, but now that that's gone, that defeats that. Besides, everyone keeps insisting that a Toontown would work best in this park.

 

[El Grupo]

I like the Toontown idea. There actually may be room for both that area and an expanded Pixar Place. http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=28.3581674&lon=-81.5628809&z=18&l=0&m=b&search=cast%20member%20costume%20center

The area behind the cast member costume center and Mickey Ave. includes the LMA practice lot, 15+ bungalows and the storage/garage area for the Backlot Tour trams. This is quite a bit of real estate that could be better utilized if reconfigured.

The tram garage/storage would no longer be needed. And, I suspect most of the operations spread throughout multiple trailers/bungalows could be consolidated in one or two larger structures - add onto the old Animation building or build behind RnRC.

Another bolder option would be to re-route the South entry and move the toll plaza out 300' from the Southern edge of the park. This would allow a huge area for expansion while retaining the existing backstage area for Disney.