If Disney didn't change.......

[DSNYKID]

• We would need to purchase tickets for each ride
• The Hall of Presidents would stop with Richard Nixon
• There would be no Fast Pass
• Jack Sparrow would not be in POTC!
• ?
• ?

Let's face it... I could go on and on as could most of you. Each of us has a time in the sun, a time when we are catered to. It's usually that 18-35 age group of people. Once you move through that time span, you are no longer the target group that needs to be pleased. With over 50 years of tremendous success, Disney has it figured out. Rides and attractions will continue to be modified, updated or all together replaced for something more modern and appealing to the target group. What I find astonishing, is the magic of Disney does not seem to be compromised.

Long live Jack Sparrow!

 

[kcnole]

There would be no Fast Pass

This would be a good thing.

 

[Valawen9]

This would be a good thing.

Yeah I think a lot of the time Fastpass just slows lines down. Space Mountain's line would be quicker I think.

 

[maggiegrace1]

Change is a good thing..

Yes I miss the old stuff but the new stuff is just as amazing and no matter what Disney still im presses and does what no other can do.

Disney will have a faithful visitor in me and my family..

The Magic never changes for me..nor do the feelings I get as I walk down Mainstreet or see Mickey Mouse or watch Wishes..

I have so many memories of the "old" Disney..but look forward to making some new memories with Maggie at the place that I love.


So cherish the memories you have and enjoy making new ones..

 

[LilDucky]

Change is a good thing..

Yes I miss the old stuff but the new stuff is just as amazing and no matter what Disney still im presses and does what no other can do.

Disney will have a faithful visitor in me and my family..

The Magic never changes for me..nor do the feelings I get as I walk down Mainstreet or see Mickey Mouse or watch Wishes..

I have so many memories of the "old" Disney..but look forward to making some new memories with Maggie at the place that I love.


So cherish the memories you have and enjoy making new ones..

Perfect :sohappy: Well put! :wave:

 

[sbkline]

A certain amount of change is necessary and inevitable. However, there also has to be a certain amount of consistency, IMO. Mickey and Gang should ALWAYS be the central characters. And there are other things which should remain constant. In a nutshell, if I don't go back for another 20 years, not only should I go back in 20 years expecting alot of inevitable changes, but I should also be able to expect to recognize the place I return to and should be able to expect many of the old classics to still be there. I should still expect to see Mickey and gang and not to have them replaced by some silly new trend.

 

[cloudboy]

If Disney didn't change, it would stagnate.

If Disney changed for the better, it would improve, bring in more people from wider audiences, and people would be more excited about attending

If Disney changed for the worse, it would attract a more limited audience that would start demanding more and more attention and many more people would not even think of going to Disney because it was too commercial or too childish.

If Disney changed to much and lost the magic that it once had, then it would be just like every other theme park, casino, and restaurant in the country.



Don't confuse change for improvement. Change is good when you take you strengths and improve on them. When you find what you are good at and make that better, and focus on building upon your reputation and business. But change is bad when you through away your lead chasing quick gains. It is bad when you get caught playing a game of keeping up with novelty and end up loosing all that you have gained previously. And it is worst when you drive away your guests because you have taken what many of them have enjoyed and then given them nothing back, to focus on a few trendy fashions that only draw people for a short time.

Change is not the same as improvement. And a positive view of what has been is certainly not a resistance to change. And while in your 18-35 age group you find many positive things have come from change, as you get older you realize that things aren't always better simply because they are new. Why put all your efforts to entertain the 18-35 year olds once or twice with novelty when you can keep someone from the age of 5 through their senior years with quality?

 

[lpet11984]

If Disney didn't change, it would stagnate.

If Disney changed for the better, it would improve, bring in more people from wider audiences, and people would be more excited about attending

If Disney changed for the worse, it would attract a more limited audience that would start demanding more and more attention and many more people would not even think of going to Disney because it was too commercial or too childish.

If Disney changed to much and lost the magic that it once had, then it would be just like every other theme park, casino, and restaurant in the country.



Don't confuse change for improvement. Change is good when you take you strengths and improve on them. When you find what you are good at and make that better, and focus on building upon your reputation and business. But change is bad when you through away your lead chasing quick gains. It is bad when you get caught playing a game of keeping up with novelty and end up loosing all that you have gained previously. And it is worst when you drive away your guests because you have taken what many of them have enjoyed and then given them nothing back, to focus on a few trendy fashions that only draw people for a short time.

Change is not the same as improvement. And a positive view of what has been is certainly not a resistance to change. And while in your 18-35 age group you find many positive things have come from change, as you get older you realize that things aren't always better simply because they are new. Why put all your efforts to entertain the 18-35 year olds once or twice with novelty when you can keep someone from the age of 5 through their senior years with quality?

:sohappy:

 

[wedway71]

I do admit I wish somethings didnt change but Disney must stay current with trends.If Disney didnt change with the times it might not be here at all.

Other people in here my age (35) will remember the Disney after Walt and before Eisner.Walt Disney Productions as TWDC was called was at risk by getting eaten alive by corporate raiders and sold bit by bit.Why??? Well,one main reason is that the company didnt change much after Walt died and the clean cut "yes/no maam" generation of Walts time was replaced with long hair and concert t shirts with AC/DC,Iron Maiden etc.The movies were lame and the parks had attractions like 20k leagues which alot of kids didnt even know that it was even a movie to inspire the attraction.

Believe it or not im sure in 30 years Nemo might be replaced with some new hit that a new generation will enjoy.

 

[PintoColvig]

If Disney didn't change, there would be no AK, Epcot, MGM, MK or even WDW. If Disney didn't change, Orlando might still be a sleepy little town.

 

[Champion]

Yeah I think a lot of the time Fastpass just slows lines down. Space Mountain's line would be quicker I think.

While it does seem this way sometimes, I can assure you that, excepting a few circumstances, Fastpass does not slow lines down.

Those circumstances are things like a 101 where the line is given return fastpasses for later in the day.

If you think about it logically, the amount of time you spend in time would roughly come out to be the same.

Anyway...

My answer to "If Disney didn't change" is -- there wouldn't be anything for the professional crybabies to complain about.

 

[The Mom]

I agree that life before FP was a lot harder. I would have to keep checking back to see if the line had gotten any shorter at an attraction, thereby wasting time. With FP, I KNOW it will be shorter (at least the FP line will be)when I get back.

 

[hooters dude]

I'm 38 and while I have fond memories from the 'old days' I also look forward to change.

As a child when I first started going there was only really the Magic Kingdom. Don't get me wrong, that was fantastic to me at the time. I fondly recall Mission To Mars, If You Had Wings, Circlevision 360 and the Skyway to name a few attractions no longer present. But over the years the changes for the most have been good. I still think back to being a kid how big it seemed, and look at it now!

People will always complain about change and just as many if not more complain if you don't change, you can never win. I'm sure Disney do their research and marketing and attendances don't lie, so I think on the whole they're doing something right.

As for Fast Pass, I think if you plan your day and use it wisely it can save a ton of time during the busier parts of the day. Then again I tour 'off season' usually 3 weeks in november but it's always good for me to use then.

The one thing I wish wouldn't change are the prices, it's amazing the think how cheap Disney was (along with the other theme parks) a few years back compared to now, ah well.

:wave:

 

[imagineer boy]

If Disney didn't change, it would stagnate.

If Disney changed for the better, it would improve, bring in more people from wider audiences, and people would be more excited about attending

If Disney changed for the worse, it would attract a more limited audience that would start demanding more and more attention and many more people would not even think of going to Disney because it was too commercial or too childish.

If Disney changed to much and lost the magic that it once had, then it would be just like every other theme park, casino, and restaurant in the country.



Don't confuse change for improvement. Change is good when you take you strengths and improve on them. When you find what you are good at and make that better, and focus on building upon your reputation and business. But change is bad when you through away your lead chasing quick gains. It is bad when you get caught playing a game of keeping up with novelty and end up loosing all that you have gained previously. And it is worst when you drive away your guests because you have taken what many of them have enjoyed and then given them nothing back, to focus on a few trendy fashions that only draw people for a short time.

Change is not the same as improvement. And a positive view of what has been is certainly not a resistance to change. And while in your 18-35 age group you find many positive things have come from change, as you get older you realize that things aren't always better simply because they are new. Why put all your efforts to entertain the 18-35 year olds once or twice with novelty when you can keep someone from the age of 5 through their senior years with quality?

Well said! Change is good, but not always good. Like the Monsters Inc ride, its not like I'm against the change, I'm just not happy with what the change is. There could be a much much better change going in that place ( and fits the tomorrowland theme for that matter ).

 

[lilredfoxie]

Yea but think of some of the classic favorites we've lost to change

- Horizons
- World of Motion
- Mr Toads Wild Ride
- Delta Dreamflight
- North Wing of Contemporary

 

[Champion]

Yea but think of some of the classic favorites we've lost to change

- Horizons
- World of Motion
- Mr Toads Wild Ride
- Delta Dreamflight
- North Wing of Contemporary

Horizons was falling into a sinkhole, the building was unsafe.
World of Motion. It was either continue unsponsored, in an outdated attraction that wasn't the best at anything, or keep a sponsor and build a new high tech ride. The latter is better, even though I personally think TT sucks.
Losing Mr Toad was crappy, I agree.
Dreamflight wasn't popular at all. Buzz is one of the most attended attractions on the property. This was a good change.
You can stay in the tower or the south wing of the Contemporary. I'm sorry, but you have something wrong with you if you thing one wing of a hotel is a "classic". You can like it, sure. But its a hotel, not a ride. And you can still have the same experience in basically the same location.

 

[lilredfoxie]

Its not just the wing, maybe I shoulda made that clear, the whole Contemporary resort has been changed with the loss of the north wing, the newer 16 story DVC building will make the contemporary resort look really unbalanced, the A-Frame tower was impressive due to its size compared to its matching garden wings, now you have a building thats taller than the main building, and now the impressive scale of the A-Frame tower is now not as impressive.

 

[MacDuffieMuppet]

i agree that we lost some great attaractions, but we also gained. yes it was sad to lose dream finder, the subs, mr toad, the extened back lot tour, millionaire, ect... Though we did gain more popular attarctions with loner lines cause of those darn fastpasses. they made lines longer.

R.I.P. old attractions may we never forget you.
welcome- attractions of the future.

 

[hooters dude]

Yea but think of some of the classic favorites we've lost to change

- Horizons
- World of Motion
- Mr Toads Wild Ride
- Delta Dreamflight
- North Wing of Contemporary

Sorry to pick but Delta Dreamflight didn't start out called that, it was changed. It started out as If You Had Wings and had a few changes made when changed to Dreamflight. My point is one person's classic, is something that was possibly changed previously :shrug:

:wave:

 

[cmatt]

if disney didnt change anything - they would end up turning into a museum...