FigmentDream
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Actually it is there in the bottom left corner, I thought it would be better near Indy but whatever
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Actually it is there in the bottom left corner, I thought it would be better near Indy but whatever
imagineer boy
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I've decided on somthing. The Von Drake invention exchange will be a giant tree house sort of thing like Geysor Gulch at Silver Dollar City, although some of you may not know what Geysor Gulch is. Any way, the Von Drake thing is gonna be a cross between Curiouse George Goes to Town, Fievel's Play Land, and if I ran the zoo, which are all kiddie attractions at Universal Studios. It'll be multie stories and in a big room, kids on different stories can shoot at kids across the room with those small plastic balls in mounted air guns and the kids on the lowest floor of the big room can collect the balls and put them in tubes that suck the balls up with air into a reloading area for the kids with the mounted air guns. There will be other areas where kids can activate these loony inventions with a push of a button. There will be dumping buckets, water sqirters, leap frog fountains and more. The wild mouse ride will be on the top of the building and it will be like primevil whirl. At one point the cars go out over the area where kids shoot with water sqirters, they can shoot water at the passing riders. I've decided to drop the simulator ride. I'm replacing it with a ride similar to Cranium Command, except Ludwig Van Drake is observing the daily life of Donald. By the way, the Hewy, Dewy, and Louis ride will be a raft ride like Kali River Rapids at AK. It'll be tame. That's it! Tell me what you think!:wave:
imagineer boy
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By the way, I'm also having that House of Mouse 3-D show that I posted a while ago, alhtough I'm making a few changes. No Pumbaa farting, new skits, new scenes, No how to Eat a Mexican dinner Goofy cartoon. I'll see if I can make a script for it in the time being.
OK, here's my first draft for the nighttime show. It's kind of a Fantasmic rip-off, but let's see if it turns out pretty good.
As the first note of the fanfare music to the show begins, the area from the Castle all the way up Main Street starts to shine as twinkle lights set a Fantasy moode to the night. Over the intercoms comes the voice of the nairattor who would most likely be either Jim Cummings (naitrrator of ROE) or David Odgen Stiers (nairrator of B&B). As "When You Wish Upon A Star" plays, he beins the nairatton in standard fairytale "Once Upon A Time" fashion speeking of a Magic Kingdom where wishes come true and dreams come to life. During this the Castle begins to magically change colors and as a single firework explodes in the air, Tinker Bell makes her appearence in the Castle's highest turret and flies down over the crowd via a wire. This begins a fireworks show of classic Disney music. At one point, a puff of smoke comes from the Castle and the Evil Queen from Snow White appears saying (in a much more interesting fashion, of course) that the Villains are taking over. The color of the Castle changes completely into dark, spooky shades as terrible dancing gargoyals dance on the castle to the tune of "Night of Bald Mountain". The cackeling Ursula comes appears near the moute and comands the seas as her own causing fountains of water rise from the moate and the music from the shipwreck scene from the Little Mermaid plays. Next Gaston appears at the Castle and says that he must kill the Beast. The Beast appears and a battle ensues. Belle appears at the Castle Tower and screams for Gaston to stop. Gaston defeats the Beast and tells hims that the villains have won. The Evil Queen and Urusla reappear and laugh in victory. Belle cries "No, please, don't leave me. I love you". The villains scream "No!" and dissapear in puffs of smoke. The Castle begins to sparkle (thanks to fiber optics) and change colors back to its fantasy-like self as the "Transformation" music plays. Belle and her Prince appear on the balcony of the Castle in full ballroom atire at the high point of the music and wave to the Castle. Then, the Castle is filled with favorite characters as they dance to an original song a la Fantasmic (the song is not finished at this point of time, I'll probably post it later.) Fireworks fill the sky and the nairrator comes back on and says how the Kingdom lived happily ever after.
Hope you like it. It could use some work, but when the wrinkles are all ironed out, this could be a great show.
As the first note of the fanfare music to the show begins, the area from the Castle all the way up Main Street starts to shine as twinkle lights set a Fantasy moode to the night. Over the intercoms comes the voice of the nairattor who would most likely be either Jim Cummings (naitrrator of ROE) or David Odgen Stiers (nairrator of B&B). As "When You Wish Upon A Star" plays, he beins the nairatton in standard fairytale "Once Upon A Time" fashion speeking of a Magic Kingdom where wishes come true and dreams come to life. During this the Castle begins to magically change colors and as a single firework explodes in the air, Tinker Bell makes her appearence in the Castle's highest turret and flies down over the crowd via a wire. This begins a fireworks show of classic Disney music. At one point, a puff of smoke comes from the Castle and the Evil Queen from Snow White appears saying (in a much more interesting fashion, of course) that the Villains are taking over. The color of the Castle changes completely into dark, spooky shades as terrible dancing gargoyals dance on the castle to the tune of "Night of Bald Mountain". The cackeling Ursula comes appears near the moute and comands the seas as her own causing fountains of water rise from the moate and the music from the shipwreck scene from the Little Mermaid plays. Next Gaston appears at the Castle and says that he must kill the Beast. The Beast appears and a battle ensues. Belle appears at the Castle Tower and screams for Gaston to stop. Gaston defeats the Beast and tells hims that the villains have won. The Evil Queen and Urusla reappear and laugh in victory. Belle cries "No, please, don't leave me. I love you". The villains scream "No!" and dissapear in puffs of smoke. The Castle begins to sparkle (thanks to fiber optics) and change colors back to its fantasy-like self as the "Transformation" music plays. Belle and her Prince appear on the balcony of the Castle in full ballroom atire at the high point of the music and wave to the Castle. Then, the Castle is filled with favorite characters as they dance to an original song a la Fantasmic (the song is not finished at this point of time, I'll probably post it later.) Fireworks fill the sky and the nairrator comes back on and says how the Kingdom lived happily ever after.
Hope you like it. It could use some work, but when the wrinkles are all ironed out, this could be a great show.
Sounds pretty cute, but I'd skip the water guns shooting at the coaster. When you're on a coaster, the last thing you want is water squirted in your eyes. Otherwise, sounds good.
Originally posted by WeirdOne
Just some more words. The one at WDW is not permanent. Again, all of the castle stages are temporary and erected along with the CASTLE THEMEING for special events only. They are not permananet.
I can redesign your Fantasyland and still have plenty of room for expansion. Sometimes you need to look at things more carefully and differently.
By the way, MK may have two stages, but look at their entertainment - basic. Tokyo has at least 7 and their entertianment is top-notch. In case you haven't noticed, it's ever changing and new entertianment that brings people in when your thinking of new rides to add, not other things. Why do you think Tokyo is top attendance at a park WORLDWIDE! They have the most quality entertainment.
By the way, my nighttime show is called "Blazin' Rhythms" and I can actually incorporate your ending into it. It's actually quite an amazing show, if I do say so myself. I don't want to post it for fear of getting rejected and the idea compromized into something else. Just think how catchy mine sounds "Blazin' Rhythms." Plus, mine has a very general idea and will actually make a nighttime spectacular with a stage show going along with the fireworks. Again, I can't tell you anything about it because I'd like to see yours first and show you mine can be better and still keep your transformation in it.
By the way, I will like a temporary stage, it's what I've been asking all along. - The WeirdOne
OK, first let me say that Tokyo bragging is a big pet peeve of mine, so let's not use this post to say how bad WDW is and how TDL is far more superior. That's not what this is for.
Second, I don't really like the name "Blazin' Rythms". It doesn't seem to set the right tone for MK. Maybe something with" Fantasies" or "Dreams", but "Blazin' Rythems" sounds like a depression-era movie musical. Just my oppinion.
imagineer boy
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Sounds good, but you're right, it does need a few bugs in it to work out. First, I'd have the show after the park closes. If it operates at night time park hours, many people will crowd around to see the show when other people who don't want to see the show may not get through the crowd to go somewhere else. I have a few more suggestions, but I have to go somwhere right now. I get back as soon as I can.
I absolutly agree with you. This would definatly be the last thing of the day right before the park closes.
FigmentDream
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The show sounds okay right now, I really think it kinda lacks anything really spectacular or innovative, don't get me wrong I think this is up to the quality of a A-typical Disney show I was just thinking we should strive above that bar.
Also part of the problem is that you've left out the details to most of the core parts of the show, what the actual firework patterns are etc. you can lay out a framework that is great, but if your actually content is not, the whole show is not. So until you put actual details in the show it can not be properly evaluated.
I am also still not a big fan of the whole promotion of B&B being the finale I'd rather keep it more general even though that is the castle, the show will eventually have to change and if we set the precedent of tying the nomenclature of the castle to the show, it would be rather hard to keep the shows from appearing too similar, granted many of the current MK fireworks shows do, but why strive for normalcy.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I am just a very tough critic
Also part of the problem is that you've left out the details to most of the core parts of the show, what the actual firework patterns are etc. you can lay out a framework that is great, but if your actually content is not, the whole show is not. So until you put actual details in the show it can not be properly evaluated.
I am also still not a big fan of the whole promotion of B&B being the finale I'd rather keep it more general even though that is the castle, the show will eventually have to change and if we set the precedent of tying the nomenclature of the castle to the show, it would be rather hard to keep the shows from appearing too similar, granted many of the current MK fireworks shows do, but why strive for normalcy.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I am just a very tough critic
WeirdOne
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OKay, sorry for comparing Tokyo, but it's true. Tokyo does have the best.
Anyways, my show, "Blazin' Rhythms" does not sound like a depression movie musical, and is not a rip off either (not saying your is, but it's very similar).
It would start off with slow drum beats (kindof like RoE) and then we'd see a platform rise with a trumpeteering fanfare and Mickey would appear on it with a fiery type costume. I'll post art if this gets approved and we'll have dancers dressed in sparkling outfits of blue, green, yellow, etc come out and dance to this tribal beat type beginning and gradually other characters would rise on their seperate platforms, each dressed in a certain way (Minnie as Can-Can Dancer, Goofy with a greenish jungle outfit, Donald as jester, etc.) and fireworks would be shooting in the air in explosive type pattern to match the drums and fire from towers and the ground and then we'd see the music change some and the characters platforms lower some with Minnie's being higher and we'd see can-can dancers emerge and they'd do the "la-lalalala-lala" can-can song with fireworks shooting in all directions and circular bursts in tune with the kicking and then suddenly we'd hear Topsy Turvey start and clowns and fools and jesters would pour onto the stage and in the audience and banners drop from castle and Donald's platform would be the highest one currently and there'd be a Topsy Turvey number with multicolor bursts and comets type things inot the air and over the audience and off the castle. And suddenly, WHOOSH! confetti into the audience as drums rise and Goofy's platform becomes the highest and we see African tribal beats come alive with Lion King type Broadway puppetry and there'd be greens and yellows and amny ground fireworks at this time accompanied by bursts of fire when suddenly we'd see Lumiere appear and a wonderful rendition of "Be Our Guest" would be done and we'd see The Beast appear with Gaston at the end of the number after the champagne bottles explode with pyro and they're fighting and suddenly the Beast gets stabbed and the tribal beats become slow and sad and we'd see Belle over the Beast and she'd say "I love you" and then we'd see the transformation with accompanying tribal music and then to a blazin' Asian fanfare we'd see Chip And Dale's platform rise in the air and ther'ed be a dragon in the audience and Asian dances and beats. Then for the Finale, Mickey rises again with every character on stage and there'd be an IllumiNations hold our hands together hand in hand with those types of fireworks and we'd see dancers slide down wires form the castles with long drages over the audience of red, blues, oranges, and suddenly "When you wish upon a star" and Tinkerbell flys out and the castle bursts into fiber optics with pyro going everywhere in sparklers, shots, comets, etc and finally with a dun-dddun! The music would end and everyone would freeze. There'd be a closing overture with a bunch of beats and some Carribean music and all the platforms would disappear underneath the ground and all the other people would run backstage and the tapestries would fly off the castle returning it to normal except the fiber optics would twinkle.
That's basically my idea with certain detailed things left out. I pretty much wrote the jist in 5 minutes so everyone can get an idea. I actually have costumes sketched (somewhat) and an idea of the fireworks used. Let me know what everyone thinks. - The WeirdOne
Anyways, my show, "Blazin' Rhythms" does not sound like a depression movie musical, and is not a rip off either (not saying your is, but it's very similar).
It would start off with slow drum beats (kindof like RoE) and then we'd see a platform rise with a trumpeteering fanfare and Mickey would appear on it with a fiery type costume. I'll post art if this gets approved and we'll have dancers dressed in sparkling outfits of blue, green, yellow, etc come out and dance to this tribal beat type beginning and gradually other characters would rise on their seperate platforms, each dressed in a certain way (Minnie as Can-Can Dancer, Goofy with a greenish jungle outfit, Donald as jester, etc.) and fireworks would be shooting in the air in explosive type pattern to match the drums and fire from towers and the ground and then we'd see the music change some and the characters platforms lower some with Minnie's being higher and we'd see can-can dancers emerge and they'd do the "la-lalalala-lala" can-can song with fireworks shooting in all directions and circular bursts in tune with the kicking and then suddenly we'd hear Topsy Turvey start and clowns and fools and jesters would pour onto the stage and in the audience and banners drop from castle and Donald's platform would be the highest one currently and there'd be a Topsy Turvey number with multicolor bursts and comets type things inot the air and over the audience and off the castle. And suddenly, WHOOSH! confetti into the audience as drums rise and Goofy's platform becomes the highest and we see African tribal beats come alive with Lion King type Broadway puppetry and there'd be greens and yellows and amny ground fireworks at this time accompanied by bursts of fire when suddenly we'd see Lumiere appear and a wonderful rendition of "Be Our Guest" would be done and we'd see The Beast appear with Gaston at the end of the number after the champagne bottles explode with pyro and they're fighting and suddenly the Beast gets stabbed and the tribal beats become slow and sad and we'd see Belle over the Beast and she'd say "I love you" and then we'd see the transformation with accompanying tribal music and then to a blazin' Asian fanfare we'd see Chip And Dale's platform rise in the air and ther'ed be a dragon in the audience and Asian dances and beats. Then for the Finale, Mickey rises again with every character on stage and there'd be an IllumiNations hold our hands together hand in hand with those types of fireworks and we'd see dancers slide down wires form the castles with long drages over the audience of red, blues, oranges, and suddenly "When you wish upon a star" and Tinkerbell flys out and the castle bursts into fiber optics with pyro going everywhere in sparklers, shots, comets, etc and finally with a dun-dddun! The music would end and everyone would freeze. There'd be a closing overture with a bunch of beats and some Carribean music and all the platforms would disappear underneath the ground and all the other people would run backstage and the tapestries would fly off the castle returning it to normal except the fiber optics would twinkle.
That's basically my idea with certain detailed things left out. I pretty much wrote the jist in 5 minutes so everyone can get an idea. I actually have costumes sketched (somewhat) and an idea of the fireworks used. Let me know what everyone thinks. - The WeirdOne
daoVinci
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I like a lot of this idea, Weird. However, aside form it being B&B castle, I don't see the beauty and beast scene fitting in with the (almost) fab 5 characters' scenes.
While I still like my initial idea of having the castle transform, I don't know if it's worth forcing the B&B characters into a show where they don't really fit.
While I still like my initial idea of having the castle transform, I don't know if it's worth forcing the B&B characters into a show where they don't really fit.
WeirdOne
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Well, I need to just rearrange some of the scnes in my show to make more orderly sense. Again, if you really want the castle to transform, go with meeko's idea. Or we could have a vote. It depeds. My idea is more orignal and seems more of a new approach to nighttime shows. Plus, my idea also seems to have more audience participation, special effects, and more toe tappin' hand clappin' type things.
Meeko's idea (to be blunt) is really just another rehash of Fantasmic! even though there are original aspects of it. I even have some cool ideas for my show regarding the parade route around the forecourt and installing trap doors there to make sudden surprise appearances, etc. - The WeirdOne
Meeko's idea (to be blunt) is really just another rehash of Fantasmic! even though there are original aspects of it. I even have some cool ideas for my show regarding the parade route around the forecourt and installing trap doors there to make sudden surprise appearances, etc. - The WeirdOne
daoVinci
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No, no. I really like yours. I like way you use mickey & friends and get the crowd involved. Perhaps we just make the B&B- transformation idea a completely different, seasonal show, as was initially suggested.
I think it would be nice to see donald, goofy, etc. get a little prime-time exposure. I'd rather go with this and scrap the B&B show altogether, if it came to that decision.
WeirdOne
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Well, if we go with mine, I would need to do some rearranging of some scenes. Like Asia would b emore in the beginning than end and can-can in the middle and Topsy Turvy in the end, stuff like that and get some of the musical selections varied and get more people in the crowd to immerse them in this festival/tribal beat thing. - The WeirdOne
FigmentDream
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I think that if you do rearrange the segments a bit, and take out B&B you show will be perfect.
Great Job
I think we should split off the B&B segment as a separate show that would run after this nightly show on selected nights on a seasonal basis.
About the name Blazing Rhythms though........ I do like it and think it is appropriate to the show, and even though it has been growing on me since I first heard it, I dunno how well it meshes with MK, part of I think my problem is it sort of lacks a core key MK concept, all that may need to be added would be like a pre-title, like Festival of Dreams: Blazing Rhythms or something like that
Great Job
I think we should split off the B&B segment as a separate show that would run after this nightly show on selected nights on a seasonal basis.
About the name Blazing Rhythms though........ I do like it and think it is appropriate to the show, and even though it has been growing on me since I first heard it, I dunno how well it meshes with MK, part of I think my problem is it sort of lacks a core key MK concept, all that may need to be added would be like a pre-title, like Festival of Dreams: Blazing Rhythms or something like that
daoVinci
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That would also leave it free to grow (i.e. change over time) without having to go back to the drawing board at start again from scratch. If it, at some point, changed to "Festival of Dreams: Magic Melodies" (or whatever... I'm making this up as I go) you have a constant (festival of dreams) to build off of. There's an emotional tie, even to a brand new show.
Even seasonal/special shows could fall under the Festival of Dreams banner
FoD: Holiday Magic
F0D: Howl-o-ween
FoD: [insert any seasonal show]
I think this show would be good at an EPCOT type of park, but, IMHO, does not reflect the feeling I think a Magic Kingdom should have. The Caribbean, African, and Asian music seems out of place in a park. Another concern is that most of the show (The platforms, puppets, ect.) will not be visable from all the way down Main Street. Because of that most people would have to be in the Hub to see if which, with the possition of the stage and such, would make it a lagistics nightmare. My B&B segement is horrably out-of-place in your show. If for some reason we decide to use this "Blazin'" show, I would definatly leave it out, and possibly Tinker Bell as well. Like I said, this is more of an EPCOT/ DCA/ DisneySea type of show, not MK. To be blunt, I think we can do better.
As for the show's finale focusing too much around B&B, I would have to disagree. I think it's just fine. DL's Fantasmic has a finale that focuses very largely on Sleeping Beauty with the dragon battle and such, so I don't see it a problem that this park would hve its nighttime show focus on B&B.
(And another thing, for my entire life I had always been taught that an appology that ended with "but I'm really right" is no appology at all).
As for the show's finale focusing too much around B&B, I would have to disagree. I think it's just fine. DL's Fantasmic has a finale that focuses very largely on Sleeping Beauty with the dragon battle and such, so I don't see it a problem that this park would hve its nighttime show focus on B&B.
(And another thing, for my entire life I had always been taught that an appology that ended with "but I'm really right" is no appology at all).
WeirdOne
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Well, I have carefully planned to avoid the logistics nightmare by implementing several ideas. First of all, most of this show uses pyrotechnics, so guest down Main Street will be able to see the best part, plus, there will be performers on Main Street down the usual route. Second, when guests enter the park they get a ticket, they scratch it and if it says "center court area or something like that" then the family with the ticket can sit in the hub and see the other show featuring the chracters etc. Plus, these platforms rise very high. I mean approxiametly over treeline so everyone can see. So that is also not a concern. And this may seem like an EPCOT show, but the point is, it's really a festival rather than your usual tired and dated Fantasmic! Believe! Fantasy!. MK needs something new, plus I've seen plently of MK parks use carnival/festival type events. DLP featured on recently, and TDL's 15th was based around a carnival. And lastly, I don't remember appologizing and then saying, but I'm right. Was that me? If so, please point that out to me. - The WeirdOne
FigmentDream
Member
Actually the theme of any MK/DL park has become Imagination, and certainly this show shows a lot of it and all sorts of wonderfully fantasy like worlds although they may reflect asia, and what not, heck what about the acclaimed ImagiNATIONS parade at DLP. I think it fits fine at any MK as it shows you the far off and fanciful places you can visit when you use your imagination and that could be worked into the show, somewhere.
I really like the exapandablity idea, and certaitnly it may not change for 2-3 years, the following show would relaly not need to be that similar but it would help sort of tie this not so direct but apportriat theme to the park
Even if the theme if not quite as obviously related as yours, Meeko, so far the content displayed is quite superior, so unless you can show expand upon your show and add some unique features to it, I think that there is no question not to go with Blazin Rhythms (although I would like to add something in-front of the name, still)
Also Fantasmic! @ DL is not infront of the castle, complelty different situation
I really like the exapandablity idea, and certaitnly it may not change for 2-3 years, the following show would relaly not need to be that similar but it would help sort of tie this not so direct but apportriat theme to the park
Even if the theme if not quite as obviously related as yours, Meeko, so far the content displayed is quite superior, so unless you can show expand upon your show and add some unique features to it, I think that there is no question not to go with Blazin Rhythms (although I would like to add something in-front of the name, still)
Also Fantasmic! @ DL is not infront of the castle, complelty different situation