Idea!

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by meeko_33785
I just talked with WDWMAGIC's own character expert, Rob (aka mktiggerman) and he had a few thoughts on out character line up

1- Von Drake will work, so I guess his location can stay, but onky if each of the three ducks only have one location in the park.

3- He Didn't like the Mickey/ Donald/ and Goofy in Tomorowland idea. Probably should be dropped.

4- The Alien costume doesn't exhist and said that making a new costume would not work and would not be worth it.

And, like his signiture says, he's never wrong.

I'm OK, with Von Drake. Goofy/ Donald/ and Mickey would be in futeristic Space Outfits, but I guess they don't need to be in Tomorrowland.
The alien costume, I don't think it would be too much trouble into making the alien costume. I was talking about the 3-eyed aliens from Toy story incase you thought I was making the Alien from AE into a costume character. The 3 eyed aliens wouldn't be very ahrd to make.

 

[imagineer boy]

BTW, what are we going to do after we're finnished with the MK? Down Town Disney? Hotels? Water Park? New theme park?

 

[FigmentDream]

I think you are getting a little ahead of your self Imagineer Boy, let's focus on finishing up the Kingdom park first than we can decide what to do next.

Secondly, when did we deicide not to put in an original land, I think that would be essential to a new "kingdom" style park. I would really still like for us to work on it, I am glad that we put some new twists on the cloned lands, but really we have nothing very new about this park. As far as themes go we could do I am either thinking Shadowlands or a mythological creature themed area.

 

[meeko_33785]

Yes, I did tell him that it would be the three-eyed Toy Story Aliens, and he said it wouldn't work. He didn't tell me why and I didn't ask (the Disney character department is very secrative in what they do), but I trust him and besides, there are still many more popular characters we can put into the parks than that. I think that the alien would be pretty far down on the priority list for greetings.

As for the new land, I think we could do it if it was a small land, maybe 3 or so attractions. I don't know how much room is between Fantasyland and Tomorowland, but maybe we could fit it there, or spin Haunted Mansion into a seperate land. Shaddowlands and a mythological land would seem fairly redundant after Fantasyland. Maybe a bit more exotic, maybe Asian like a Chinatown or something. It could be just different enough from the jungle theme of Adventureland, the Futuristic Tomorrowland, the American theme of Main Street and Frontierland and the character-centered themes of Fantasyland and Toontown. Maybe have a small show and some sort of Dragon attraction (not a coaster though, we have enough of those) and a few smaller atractions.

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by FigmentDream
I think you are getting a little ahead of your self Imagineer Boy, let's focus on finishing up the Kingdom park first than we can decide what to do next.

Secondly, when did we deicide not to put in an original land, I think that would be essential to a new "kingdom" style park. I would really still like for us to work on it, I am glad that we put some new twists on the cloned lands, but really we have nothing very new about this park. As far as themes go we could do I am either thinking Shadowlands or a mythological creature themed area.

Well, I knew I was getting ahead of myself a little, but I was just wondering.

For the new land, Figment Dream's right about the new land thing. I think each MK park needs its own land to make it more unique than just having unique. It will be small, sort of like Liberty Square. I just don't have a good thought on what the land should be.

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by meeko_33785
Yes, I did tell him that it would be the three-eyed Toy Story Aliens, and he said it wouldn't work. He didn't tell me why and I didn't ask (the Disney character department is very secrative in what they do), but I trust him and besides, there are still many more popular characters we can put into the parks than that. I think that the alien would be pretty far down on the priority list for greetings.

As for the new land, I think we could do it if it was a small land, maybe 3 or so attractions. I don't know how much room is between Fantasyland and Tomorowland, but maybe we could fit it there, or spin Haunted Mansion into a seperate land. Shaddowlands and a mythological land would seem fairly redundant after Fantasyland. Maybe a bit more exotic, maybe Asian like a Chinatown or something. It could be just different enough from the jungle theme of Adventureland, the Futuristic Tomorrowland, the American theme of Main Street and Frontierland and the character-centered themes of Fantasyland and Toontown. Maybe have a small show and some sort of Dragon attraction (not a coaster though, we have enough of those) and a few smaller atractions.

I suppose that you're right about the aliens.
I like the idea of a mythological themed area. I'm not sure if it would work between fantaseyland and tomorrowland. There's no enough space. The Little Mermaid ride and greeting area will be there and Aquatopia and Autopia would be close by. Maybe we could put it near the area between the connection area between Fantaseyland and Frontierland sort of like Liberty Square. The Mythological area is a good idea, but don't forget about my idea for Laclede's Landing. It would go good along side the rivers of america.

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
I suppose that you're right about the aliens.
I like the idea of a mythological themed area. I'm not sure if it would work between fantaseyland and tomorrowland. There's no enough space. The Little Mermaid ride and greeting area will be there and Aquatopia and Autopia would be close by. Maybe we could put it near the area between the connection area between Fantaseyland and Frontierland sort of like Liberty Square. The Mythological area is a good idea, but don't forget about my idea for Laclede's Landing. It would go good along side the rivers of america.

I think that a small mythological land between Fantasyland and Frontieland would be great as long as it fits into the Frontierland that Wannabe Walt has planned. I would hate to have him redo his land to fit it in. What kind of mythology are we going to include. It's a fairly broad topic. Anyone have any ideas about it.

I hadn't heard about the Laclede's Landing concept. What is that land's theme? I would be interesting in hearing that concept too before we deside on a land.

 

[FigmentDream]

Ummm, not to be crass, but have you guys lost it?


we are designing the park how could something not fit, we could just move the two lands in question farther apart from one another so it could fit, and then the new land would just fill the void.......

I have never seen so many restrictions put on a project by the people who are making it themselves

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by meeko_33785
I think that a small mythological land between Fantasyland and Frontieland would be great as long as it fits into the Frontierland that Wannabe Walt has planned. I would hate to have him redo his land to fit it in. What kind of mythology are we going to include. It's a fairly broad topic. Anyone have any ideas about it.

I hadn't heard about the Laclede's Landing concept. What is that land's theme? I would be interesting in hearing that concept too before we deside on a land.

For Mythology, maybe it could mostly be Greek. How about a ton of Mythology put together. It could be sort of like what Beastly Kingdom was going to be. It could have a Dagon's Lair sort of thing where you walk in a cave and see a gigantic AA Dragon. More attractions could be added.

For Laclede's Landing, Laclede's Landing was where many settlers settled on the banks of the Mississippi where the futer St. Louis was going to be. It could be made to look like that. To be honest, I really can't think of any good attractions there. We might go with the Mythology concept.

 

[meeko_33785]

Originally posted by FigmentDream
Ummm, not to be crass, but have you guys lost it?


we are designing the park how could something not fit, we could just move the two lands in question farther apart from one another so it could fit, and then the new land would just fill the void.......

I have never seen so many restrictions put on a project by the people who are making it themselves

Of course a project needs restrictions. I don't know about all of you, but I want a park that could work in the real world. Anyone could make a park with 500 attractions and have a cast of 12,000 in all the shows, but it takes a lot of work and effort to make a realistic and good park. I supose I put a lot of restructions on this project because I am somewhat of a perfectionist and would like things to be just right. If you all are not the same way, I can see how we may not see eye to eye.

Anyway, it's not up to me if we can fit it in. We have to wait and see what Wannabe Walt thinks if he is able to change his plans for Frontierland in order to fit it in. He's the only one who knows how we can do this since a map of Frontierland has not been posted so we'll just have to wait and see what he thinks. And remember, we're all working on this together, so let's wait for everyone to give their say on the project, especially the person who designed the land we're thinking about altering.

 

[FigmentDream]

I still don't think you get what I am saying

First I never said anything about wanting to be completely unrealistic, so I am not sure what that tangent was about......

But we don't need to try to change the design of any land to fit a land between them.

I will post a pick to show what I am talking about

Taking this hypothetical and poor example of a park, I could move out one area to add in room for the new section, with our altering the actual moved land, the only thing changed to it is adding in a small additional entrance area, which is no big deal more entrance area for a land is never a bad thing

Point we can change the overall shape of the park easily to fit this in, with out changing the lands. Even if by some odd design we can always work out something an underground tunnel a hidden bridge, something, I just find it ludicrous for people to be building something with their Imagination and tell me that "well if we can fit it in" of course we can, we are making it.

I realize that one person is in change of each land, which personally I think is a bad idea, but that is beside the point but on the whole we all need to make the overall desicion not one person

Congrats on being a perfectionist but that has nothing to do with restrictions

As far as the real world does, I have done many things in the real world that people have told me could not be done , so let's not get too carried away with "oh that couldn't happen in reality", I have found that Imagination can bend those rules, and I personally hate it when people tell me that.


Okay sorry, hopefully that came out more like a vent than a rant, but it really gets under my skin when people who are Imagineering try to hold them selves back

 

[FigmentDream]

Oh ya here is the diagram

 

[Wannabe Walt]

I am really sorry that I haven't posted for so long! I have been busy with a lot of other stuff. I will try to make a map of Frontierland as soon as I can. Also, I was thinking, that if you all could get some pictures to me of how some of this stuff would look, I could create it on RCT2. It could be used to kindof go along with Imagineer Boy's idea of the guest walkthrough at the end when we are done! We could use the re-creation. It would be awsome! I like the Mythology idea for a new land but I was thinking.....what about Nature. I saw a poster that sparked this idea! It could be in like a huge forest and it would have a river and lake. There could be canoe rides, dark rides about different countries animal life, etc. Also, I never officialy named the River in Frontierland Rivers of America! I don't like that name very well. Instead I am calling the river "Big Thunder River". It would go around BTMR. I will post the map later!

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by Wannabe Walt
I am really sorry that I haven't posted for so long! I have been busy with a lot of other stuff. I will try to make a map of Frontierland as soon as I can. Also, I was thinking, that if you all could get some pictures to me of how some of this stuff would look, I could create it on RCT2. It could be used to kindof go along with Imagineer Boy's idea of the guest walkthrough at the end when we are done! We could use the re-creation. It would be awsome! I like the Mythology idea for a new land but I was thinking.....what about Nature. I saw a poster that sparked this idea! It could be in like a huge forest and it would have a river and lake. There could be canoe rides, dark rides about different countries animal life, etc. Also, I never officialy named the River in Frontierland Rivers of America! I don't like that name very well. Instead I am calling the river "Big Thunder River". It would go around BTMR. I will post the map later!

Do you mean pictures of Frontierland? I could do that. Would you like a BTMRR track layout?

Glad you like the Mythology idea ( is the dragon thing the walk through that you were talking about? ). Abou nature, that idea is kind of taken. Critter Country is sort of like a natureland in DL and TDL.

Big Thunder river sounds good. I have a suggestion, I don't think the river should go completely around BTMRR because when you're on the boats, you'd be seeing BTMRR to the side of the boat the whole trip. Maybe have a smaller island attatched to BTMRR that's nothing but wooded area. Because you wouldn't want to see BTMRR to the side of you on the whole river trip.

 

[imagineer boy]

OH!!!!!! I just remembered! I havn't posted a picture of Toon Town yet! I'm sorry, I'll post one as soon as possible.

 

[imagineer boy]

BTW, we also need to talk about the fireworks show that will take place after the night parade and before Blazin Rythems. I had an idea for a fire works show called "Star Magic". It could star out like illuminations where a fire works shoots across the sky before exploding over the castle. Lasers will shoot around while fire works are shot from different places around the park. Tinker Bell would appear at the top of the castle in a twinkling out fit and fly over spectators on Main Street. Fire works would shoot into some smoke made by fire works in in the sky and silently explode and make yellow sparks fall from the sky like pixi dust. Then the grand finale would take place with smoke effects, lasers, fireworks, and colorful fountains in the hub stream. What do you think?

 

[WeirdOne]

Just for your knowledge, Blazin' Rhythms is a fireworks show. I put into my script that there are fireworks going off the whole show, but it is combined with the dancing and the music. - The WeirdOne

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by WeirdOne
Just for your knowledge, Blazin' Rhythms is a fireworks show. I put into my script that there are fireworks going off the whole show, but it is combined with the dancing and the music. - The WeirdOne

Well, yeah, but I don't think a Magic Kingdom is complete without a regular fire works show. Blazin Rythems is a live show with fire works. Sort of like Fantasmic. DL in California has Fantasmic and regular fire works show. At night, the night parade could start at 7:45, the fireworks would start imiditely after the parade ( which is 8:45?:veryconfu ), when all of the lands except Main Street close, Blazin Rythems could start. What do you think?

 

[WeirdOne]

2 Firework shows in the same area? No, remember, the way you are comparing it is with Fantasmic and Believe. They are in two different areas. THese two shows would be in the same area. That hurts one show and benefits the other. In your case, mine. People will see yours, get bored, and leave leaving my show with no audience. - The WeirdOne

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by WeirdOne
2 Firework shows in the same area? No, remember, the way you are comparing it is with Fantasmic and Believe. They are in two different areas. THese two shows would be in the same area. That hurts one show and benefits the other. In your case, mine. People will see yours, get bored, and leave leaving my show with no audience. - The WeirdOne

*sigh* Ok, fine. Forget my fireworks show.