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I dont like the big Sorcerers hat at Hollywood Studios
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Elonwy
Member
For me I see no intention for the castle to represent Main Street...I see it representing Fantasyland which it most definately does.
As for making a more "Disney" icon or weenie for the parks...no other park has a blatently "Disney" icon but one themed to the particular area of the park istead so I don't understand why the studios needs to be "Disneyfied" in it's icon when none of the other parks are
Vernonpush
Well-Known Member
When you have people (guests from across the pond) saying "Yesterday we went to Universal and rode the Twilight Zone", then you need to "Disney" the icon to keep people from confusing the two "studio" parks near Orlando.
Daneault
New Member
Im a little confuse about the whole story of the Sorcerer hat.
Ive seen stories that involve Warners & Paramount buying the orginial Chinese Theatre and didnt want Disney to use the theatre as there park icon, so Disney decide to leave the Hat after the 100 years celebration.
Ive seen one that was the opposite, that Disney didnt want to have a park icon that was owned by competitors.
And finnaly the one that disney executive, wanted DHS to feel more "magic disney" so they decide to change the icon of the park.
Any of theses stories are true? Is there a little truth in all of them?
Please someone enlight me
Ive seen stories that involve Warners & Paramount buying the orginial Chinese Theatre and didnt want Disney to use the theatre as there park icon, so Disney decide to leave the Hat after the 100 years celebration.
Ive seen one that was the opposite, that Disney didnt want to have a park icon that was owned by competitors.
And finnaly the one that disney executive, wanted DHS to feel more "magic disney" so they decide to change the icon of the park.
Any of theses stories are true? Is there a little truth in all of them?
Please someone enlight me
yankspy
Well-Known Member
I agree that it does not represent Main Street. However, it is clearly visible from there as it is sort of at the end of main street with a little bit of separation. I do think that the hat is not that far off. It represents a piece of nostalgia from a diney movie made in 1940.
Yankeeplex
New Member
everytime my 5 year old daughter sees it, she screams with joy, "We're here, we're finally hear" I guess that is the reaction they were looking for.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Yes but just imagine how happy she would be if she could see all the way to the GMR theater facade and then realized how well themed and what a good job the original Imagineers did of creating a sense of place. I think she would appreciate the immersive quality of the original design much more than some silly overly designed and misplaced hat.
jt04
Well-Known Member
I am glad you asked! To me it does not represent Main Street. It represents the distant dreams and aspirations of the "everyman" (or "everyperson" to be PC) Which is why it belongs at the end of Main Street!
It is a representation similar to the iconic "pot of gold" at the end of the rainbow. Or any fabled reward that awaits the dreamer or seeker.
The hat on the other hand does not do this. It is not "Disney" period.
SE and the ToL at AK do succeed however. Those Imagineers understood.
krankenstein
Well-Known Member
It was never a question of making it more Disney. It was about giving the DHS a weenie and icon all in one like every other park in the empire.
jt04
Well-Known Member
The original design worked fine. That hat was someone's ridiculous idea that somehow got approved while management (you know who) was distracted by other matters.
Vernonpush
Well-Known Member
jt04
Well-Known Member
krankenstein
Well-Known Member
:lol: I was wondering how long it would be before someone brought that up!
I still don't like the BAH. :lookaroun
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
What was wrong with the one they had?
And if you use the not photogenic enough argument, there are plenty other photo opportunities. Not every weenie has to be in every picture.
krankenstein
Well-Known Member
Absolutely nothing in my opinion. If you read the thread, you will see on the first page that I said I HATE the BAH and what it did to the studios.
The reason why it was built was the confusion between weenie and icon. Many people couldn't separate the 2. Well, that and the 100 Years of magic Celebration.
No dave, it never was. From day 1, back in 2001, it was announced as the new icon of the park, thus a permanent structure.
The wand was deemed a temporary structure, which while that status was in constant flux, it ultimately remained temporary... just a little less temporary than most of us hoped it would.
Personally I hope that the hat remains a bit less permanent than its supposed to be.
MyNameisStitch
Member
I used to not be a fan of the Hat but after working at the Studios, specifically in the area around the hat, I grew kinda fond of it. Sure I miss walking down Hollywood Blvd. and seeing the theater but now I enjoy seeing the giant Sorcerers Hat.
Also another way that I look at it, i've been to the real Graumanns Chinese Theater and you never see it from that far away. There are buildings right across the street from it (including the Disney owned El Capitan theater, where they premiere Disney movies). So when you walk through or around the hat, your seeing the theater a little more realistically than from a distance. *shrug* Just a thought.
Also another way that I look at it, i've been to the real Graumanns Chinese Theater and you never see it from that far away. There are buildings right across the street from it (including the Disney owned El Capitan theater, where they premiere Disney movies). So when you walk through or around the hat, your seeing the theater a little more realistically than from a distance. *shrug* Just a thought.
redkoala245
New Member
I got used to the hat the year after I first visited when the hat came. And I rarely go to to that section, and I just go to the Great Movie Ride. I bet that it is the icon for DHS is because it was there for the 100 Years of Magic and maybe no one could really see the Mickey Water Tower (whatever it is). I understand how you feel but I don't think they will get rid of it anytime soon.
I've heard that argument before and its a good question.
To compare something as lovely and magnificent and as identifiable as Cinderella/Sleeping Beauty Castle to the quick fix that is the hat is a bit of a stretch to me. The hat looks nice, but nowhere near as nice as the castle. And with the theater already at the end of the street, it is clear that the park was going in that direction in the first place, where you wouldn't expect to see anything but art deco buildings from Hollywood Boulevard to the end of the street. Its obvious the structure was put there after the fact.
The castle and Main Street have become so identifiable that it would look strange to not have the castle at the end of the turn of the century street. It has become synonimous with Disney parks as a whole.
So maybe the hat will do the same for DHS, who knows? Its not my cup of tea, but if the kids like it, then all the better.