I can walk faster than you in the line so...

[DfromATX]

If you left the queue, and you try to skip me, it's my prerogative to block you or let you by. When I say "Sorry, no can do.", and you politely say "Oh man, my kid had to use the bathroom; my wife is going to wonder where we are. Can't you let me by please?" Sure! Totally excusable. Kids are kids after all. Plus, being polite goes a long way.

However, if your reply is full of attitude, or you left the queue "just because you felt like it" or for refreshments or anything else... Well, see below.

Does that answer your question?

I think that's what she's saying.

 

[Californian Elitist]

If you left the queue, and you try to skip me, it's my prerogative to block you or let you by. When I say "Sorry, no can do.", and you politely say "Oh man, my kid had to use the bathroom; my wife is going to wonder where we are. Can't you let me by please?" Sure! Totally excusable. Kids are kids after all. Plus, being polite goes a long way.

However, if your reply is full of attitude, or you left the queue "just because you felt like it" or for refreshments or anything else... Well, see below.

Does that answer your question?

I've been saying this the whole time.

 

[Pixie VaVoom]

Like what many others have said here...the line-jumping issue pales in comparison to the fact that this creep had the nerve to touch & move your daughter. It doesn't matter if it's in a crowded line, or in the middle of an empty walkway during the offseason. He shoved your daughter, that alone is enough reason to rip this fellow a new one.

Oh yeah - that would have roused the Mama Bear in me!! Something like "If you touch my daughter I will have you up on charges of assault on a minor !! Now go back to Gator World where you belong !!"

Sorry Gator World - it was all I could think of.

 

[thomas998]

He sounds like a complete tool. As do most of the people claiming they would knock him out or break his arm.



Im also 17 foot tall and I shoot lasers out of my 3 eyes. But the funny thing is there is always someone willing to go that bit further.

Just remember, the world is filled with a wide array of people. Some of them wont be 7 foot tall and built like a football player, but they may still take offense to being disrespected and may very well be able and willing to lay you out for far less than touching their kid. I've seen it happen in places just as innocent as Disneyland by people you would never have thought capable from their appearance.

 

[dadddio]

My first reaction is that I would react quite strongly to someone grabbing and moving my girl out of his way. That being said, even that's not absolute. Imagine the scenario where the man perhaps wasn't paying good enough attention and practically collides with the girl. In an attempt to avoid total destruction, he grabs her by the shoulders and moves her to the side some.

Is it rude? Absolutely; particularly if he didn't apologize. (Of course, apologies are really cultural and he may or may not even speak the language.)

Is it 'assault'? No.

 

[dadddio]

Just remember, the world is filled with a wide array of people. Some of them wont be 7 foot tall and built like a football player, but they may still take offense to being disrespected and may very well be able and willing to lay you out for far less than touching their kid. I've seen it happen in places just as innocent as Disneyland by people you would never have thought capable from their appearance.

And those people have a right to their day in court.

 

[Mr Anderson]

I've been saying this the whole time.

I see; I misunderstood. Sorry about that.
I thought you were saying you can just leave the queue and come back in whenever you please. Yeah, if people are polite, and have a valid reason, sure, I can let them pass.

One thing I WON'T tolerate, is a huge group of people rejoining one person holding a spot in line. Nope, will never let that slide, never. Nope, nuh-uh. Not gonna happen.

 

[MikeyK72]

I just don't see what all the fuss is when one person leaves to go potty or whatever and gets back in line with their family lol. I don't consider that cutting or rude at all. Now obvious cutting and bringing additional people back with you is a different story...

Well, look at it this way...when you left the line you certainly had to walk past people behind you that very well may remember you on your way back. However, while you (and perhaps family members that went with you) were in the bathrooms the line most likely grew with new folks that you didn't walk past. Since they never saw you leave the line, it's logical for them to think you are cutting when you return and say "excuse me" with expectations of walking past them.

 

[Gullywhumper]

If you left the queue, and you try to skip me, it's my prerogative to block you or let you by. When I say "Sorry, no can do.", and you politely say "Oh man, my kid had to use the bathroom; my wife is going to wonder where we are. Can't you let me by please?" Sure! Totally excusable. Kids are kids after all. Plus, being polite goes a long way.

However, if your reply is full of attitude, or you left the queue "just because you felt like it" or for refreshments or anything else... Well, see below.

Does that answer your question?

I agree!

 

[DfromATX]

First let me say that it is not a regular practice for me or anyone in my family to get out of every line of every ride on every Disney trip. I think it's been a few times in all our trips when my husband might say he has to suddenly go (because he's like that lol), but to answer your question, I'd say the other people in line would see his wife and children are up ahead waiting for him. Most likely, I would be keeping an eye out for him as well so he'd see us. Like I said, I just don't see it as a big deal. And it's a given that my husband (or anyone in my family) would be using proper manners. One person leaving the line is not going to cause anyone else to miss their turn. I would also think it very rude to see, for example, some teenagers (or immature adults) barreling their way through just for the sake of getting ahead in line.

 

[thomas998]

My first reaction is that I would react quite strongly to someone grabbing and moving my girl out of his way. That being said, even that's not absolute. Imagine the scenario where the man perhaps wasn't paying good enough attention and practically collides with the girl. In an attempt to avoid total destruction, he grabs her by the shoulders and moves her to the side some.

Is it rude? Absolutely; particularly if he didn't apologize. (Of course, apologies are really cultural and he may or may not even speak the language.)

Is it 'assault'? No.

Clearly not a lawyer. Any unwanted physical contact makes it battery, assault is the threat of battery. Both are a crime.

 

[thomas998]

And those people have a right to their day in court.

Give me any court where I'm defending someone that beats up a grown man that has laid hands on the guys child and I'll guarantee they aren't convicted. Frankly I would be dumbfounded if you could find a DA that would be foolish enough to try and prosecute a lost cause and blemish their win/loss record.

 

[Mr Anderson]

First let me say that it is not a regular practice for me or anyone in my family to get out of every line of every ride on every Disney trip. I think it's been a few times in all our trips when my husband might say he has to suddenly go (because he's like that lol), but to answer your question, I'd say the other people in line would see his wife and children are up ahead waiting for him. Most likely, I would be keeping an eye out for him as well so he'd see us. Like I said, I just don't see it as a big deal. And it's a given that my husband (or anyone in my family) would be using proper manners. One person leaving the line is not going to cause anyone else to miss their turn. I would also think it very rude to see, for example, some teenagers (or immature adults) barreling their way through just for the sake of getting ahead in line.

Yeah, and in the OP's situation... wow. Immature doesn't even begin to describe that "adult". That's some flat out rude and words-I-won't-say-on-a-Disney-board behavior right there. Poor kid.

 

[DfromATX]

Yeah, and in the OP's situation... wow. Immature doesn't even begin to describe that "adult". That's some flat out rude and words-I-won't-say-on-a-Disney-board behavior right there. Poor kid.

I totally agree.

 

[Claretstevo]

Give me any court where I'm defending someone that beats up a grown man that has laid hands on the guys child and I'll guarantee they aren't convicted. Frankly I would be dumbfounded if you could find a DA that would be foolish enough to try and prosecute a lost cause and blemish their win/loss record.

Sorry man your living in dream land.



I'm not one of the guys that push in by the way. I think its rude but I just bite my tongue.

 

[G00fyDad]

Clearly not a lawyer. Any unwanted physical contact makes it battery, assault is the threat of battery. Both are a crime.

Since we're talking legally... prove intent.

 

[dadddio]

Clearly not a lawyer. Any unwanted physical contact makes it battery, assault is the threat of battery. Both are a crime.

You could probably do a good job defending someone who is arrested for bumping into somebody, I guess.

 

[dadddio]

Give me any court where I'm defending someone that beats up a grown man that has laid hands on the guys child and I'll guarantee they aren't convicted. Frankly I would be dumbfounded if you could find a DA that would be foolish enough to try and prosecute a lost cause and blemish their win/loss record.

Never seen a real lawyer who was willing to make guarantees that he could get a clearly guilty person off.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I could barely make it through this thread with all the machismo and internet tough guys. It's vacation, relax, if someone really needs to get past you to meet up with friends or family let them, if that mean you have to wait an extra 15 seconds in line is that such a big deal? I go to DL all the time and probably get passed by someone catching up with their family 3 or 4 times a day, not exactly an epidemic of line cutting and something that probably adds less than a minute in line over a 14 hour day. I can't believe people are so bothered by this they get upset and let it negatively influence their day or worse start a fight or an argument over something so trivial as line cutting.

Just remember, the world is filled with a wide array of people. Some of them wont be 7 foot tall and built like a football player, but they may still take offense to being disrespected and may very well be able and willing to lay you out for far less than touching their kid. I've seen it happen in places just as innocent as Disneyland by people you would never have thought capable from their appearance.

This is great advice and people should remember it goes both ways, people shouldn't assume they can shove by people just because they are smaller (or a girl) but people should also remember that you never know who you're up against when you try to intimidate some idiot in retaliation for what they did. I live in the MMA capital of the world and know several people in the 135 weight class that would have no problem sending your average 6'2" 250 pounder to the hospital, including some fragile looking females you'd never guess in a million years could beat you down.

Everyone should treat each other with respect but pick your battles, getting upset over something so trivial as someone trying to return to their family is a waste of energy.

To the OP, the guy was 100% wrong to cut in line and 100% wrong to push your daughter aside but do your best to forget about it and just enjoy the rest of your vacation. Dwelling on what if's and other people acting like jerks just gets in the way of having fun.

 

[thomas998]

Never seen a real lawyer who was willing to make guarantees that he could get a clearly guilty person off.

You probably never met a very good lawyer then. My old firm made its money by doing just that, to my knowledge we never had a client that was actually innocent. And in some cases partners did guarantee the clients that they would walk.