I can walk faster than you in the line so...

[lunchbox1175]

Even if he was catching up with other people there are these things called manners, I'm pretty sure the words excuse me are not that hard to say, nor is communicating that you are catching up with other people....I see it all the time.

 

[thomas998]

does that mean I can cut in front of you???
So my 18 yo daughter and I went to the single rider line at Aerosmith today and we just entered the line and a 40ish yo guy took my daughter by the shoulders and shoved her to the side when she was walking and then he proceeded to walk really fast in the line.
We met up with him before the show and I wanted to say something (especially about him shoving her) but didn't.
Is it right to cut in front of others in the line just because you can walk faster??We were in no way walking slow. Love to hear your thoughts on this.

He touches someone in my family it isn't a matter of whether there is a line or not. If my wife is present I will simply get a CM to contact security for battery, but only because my wife would be upset with the other option which would be to break his arm.

As for the line... well if you are in a queue it is considered line cutting so long as you are actually walking... not line cutting if you are standing there posing for photo with scenery or waiting for someone else... if it is on the way to a queue and you haven't gotten to the chain maze it isn't.

 

[thomas998]

It was just a thought....if there is no line then where does the line start? At the sidewalk outside the attraction? in the area where the line might start if there was a huge crowd? At the point where people are lined up behind each other? Where do you draw the line?

easiest answer is the line starts at the entrance to the queue, whether it is filled with people to the actual entrance or empty to loading dock doesn't matter.

 

[Dwarful]

I will say it can be hard to get in and out of lines once you are really in them. I have Chron's Disease and am on some really great medicine so I rarely have any flair ups. I also am very careful with my diet esp. while on vacation. That doesn't mean I haven't had some moments. Once we were in the standby line for PP and BOOM all of a sudden I knew I wasn't going to be able to make it on and off the ride. We were close enough that it was going to be faster to go to the front, skip the ride and run to the restroom. I just kept saying 'sorry, pardon me, excuse me' and hurrying my tush right out of the line. I did NOT try to get back with my family. They met me by the RR after they rode. No big deal...except to the family right in front of us. My husband just very politely explained that I suffered from an unobservable disease called Chron's and unfortunately even with planning and careful consideration emergencies happened. They didn't say another word.

So, one person passing I never say a word as I don't know their situation and one person doesn't impact my vacation. Now, one person holding a spot in line and then 4 or more people pushing past trying to catch up to the first person because they just got off of ride X...uh, nope, you need to start in line as a group.

We also now do the single rider line as a family with the new FP+. BUT we fully expect to be split up on the ride. On TT we did get to sit two to a car one front row, one back row....but even that we know it might take four or five cars to get us through the line. That is fine with us especially if the single rider line is a much shorter wait.

 

[Claretstevo]

He sounds like a complete tool. As do most of the people claiming they would knock him out or break his arm.



Im also 17 foot tall and I shoot lasers out of my 3 eyes. But the funny thing is there is always someone willing to go that bit further.

 

[razor58]

One person trying to get through I usually let pass, albeit sometimes blocking their way and "encouraging" them to use manners such as an "excuse me" (and i know that's not being very polite on my behalf). However, more people trying to get through late, I usually cut in front of them (if they are directly in front of me) using the old "hey, it's just me and my son versus 4 or more of you." Similar to the logic at checkout lanes when you only have 1 or 2 items and the person in front of you has a cart full. Haven't been denied yet, especially when you say it with a smile.

 

[G00fyDad]

I don't hate you for it, in fact I couldn't really care less. If anyone thinks that I am going to waste my whole vacation worried about one or two people getting ahead of me in a line, they need to think again.

On the list of possible human problems it is on the very bottom, right next to cleaning the toilet. I have always believed, for myself and to teach my children that there are people out there that don't care one little squat about other people. It is always me, me, me! And it always will be. I place a certain standard on how I live my life and what I can do that would make me feel good about myself. So, I would never cut in front of anyone in line, intentionally and I wouldn't waste one minute of my time worrying about the behavior of others.

If Disney doesn't care enough to enforce their own rules then I have no reason to worry myself about the actions of others, within reason. I never said that I would let a large group by me without considerable protest, but, since, as you say, I cannot prove that an individual wasn't there already, I am not going to give even a minor amount of concern if an individual goes ahead of me. I may not approve, but, I am certainly not going to get all in someones face about it. Chances are that if it is one individual or an adult and child, that they are just catching up to their party. With numbers like that I am not going to get on the ride even one second later then I would have if I hadn't let them go by because they will probably be riding together. Either way, the same number of ride vehicles will be used and I will have gained nothing by making a big deal out of it.

This whole thread started out by the woman involved saying that an adult pushed her daughter aside and stated that they were going to slow. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. Irregardless of that fact, he pushed and made contact with another person, didn't ask and just pushed his way through. Now something like that needs to be reported because it is going to happen again. And if anyone in Disney is listening, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT TYPE GUEST.

If we are going to get all upset about that, why not get violent about the biggest tolerated line cutter in all of Disney, the famous Fastpass.

I get what you're saying. However, I do not "get in anyone's face" over it. I just refuse to move out of their way. The youngest that have ever tried to get passed me were two preteen girls. Sorry, but they had to get in line behind us, ride the attraction, and wait for their group and the end. I don't get violent over it. I wouldn't unless someone got violent with my non-physical refusal to step to the side. Simple.

 

[G00fyDad]

If it's just one person or one person with one child the odds heavily favor they were already in line. Why raise your blood pressure over something so minor and possibly ruin a family's experience because the kid had to go to the bathroom during. 90 minute wait in line?

Get out of line, take the kid to the bathroom, and the get in line at the end. If I knew for a fact that someone took their kid to the bathroom then I'd let that person back in, but you don't always know this. I've watched people, at least twice, cut right through a line of people with kids in tow and go right to the front of the line all the time saying "Excuse me. Just catching up with my family." Once at Tomorrowland Speedway, and once at Buzz Lightyear. In the end, there was no family. I may be a jerk for not allowing people to do this, but I see the look on all of the faces when these people do this behind us. It is a look of total disgust and irritation, but they let them through don't they? Not me. If I knew the person got out of line in front of me then I'd let them through, but I have never seen this happen.

 

[AintNoOtherMan]

No, cutting is never okay. Slowness shouldn't bother you, because it doesn't make a huge time difference at all as to how long the line will go. A minute or two at most, and that is still extreme.

I let people go ahead of me if I'm taking a lot of pictures in a queue, but that's at my will. I know that if I were behind me, I would be annoyed because I take a long time while taking pictures.

 

[Mr Anderson]

In my opinion, cutting is never okay. I'll politely block you if you try to pull a "excuse me, my place is up there". Now, understanding kids have bathroom emergencies from time to time, I will say this... if I saw you pass by the opposite way beforehand with a little kid in tow, and then you come back... I will CERTAINLY let you come back by. However, if you went to get refreshments, you should have thought of that before you got in line, bucko.

 

[Californian Elitist]

In my opinion, cutting is never okay. I'll politely block you if you try to pull a "excuse me, my place is up there". Now, understanding kids have bathroom emergencies from time to time, I will say this... if I saw you pass by the opposite way beforehand with a little kid in tow, and then you come back... I will CERTAINLY let you come back by. However, if you went to get refreshments, you should have thought of that before you got in line, bucko.

What if they left the line before you entered the line? What would you do then?

Some of you just aren't making sense. I would advise you all that have a problem with people joining their groups in line to stay away from the theme parks in Southern California. It is very common and normal for folks to either leave the line and come back or join their groups whenever they feel like it. Wouldn't want your undies getting in a bunch or your blood pressure going up, so seriously, don't visit any of the theme parks in Southern California.

 

[R W B]

I don't have kids so I can't speak to that but I do have a fiancé and I also do a lot of activities with my nieces and nephews and the same thing happened to me locally at a weekend fair they had going on. A grown man pushed my fiancé and and 7yr old nephew out of his way to get ahead in line and within seconds I had him spun around and up against a building (part of the line was next to a building) screaming at him and ready to do not so nice things but he started yelling he was sorry and he shouldn't of done it and blah blah blah. The cops came (they were there on detail), we told them the story and they gave me an official verbal warning and that was that. Funniest part is after it was said and done one of the older officers there told me he wouldn't of charged me even if I would of hit the guy because he would of reacted the same way lol.

Now with that said, if this same scenario happened at WDW I don't think I would of physically touched the man (fear of being banned only) but I definitely would of told him something at the time when it happened and also when we met back up at the front of the line.

 

[unkadug]

What if they left the line before you entered the line? What would you do then?

Some of you just aren't making sense. I would advise you all that have a problem with people joining their groups in line to stay away from the theme parks in Southern California. It is very common and normal for folks to either leave the line and come back or join their groups whenever they feel like it. Wouldn't want your undies getting in a bunch or your blood pressure going up, so seriously, don't visit any of the theme parks in Southern California.

That is just inconsiderate behavior and certainly NOT NORMAL no matter what park you are in, and I would still do the same as @G00fyDad whether in Florida or California.

Being a west coast jerk is still being a jerk.

 

[Allym146]

Communication goes a long way with me. Say "excuse me, I just need to meet up with my family" or something similar and I will gladly move aside for you. Be an a-hole about it (grab my shoulders and push me to the side) and I might lose it on you.

 

[the-reason14]

Yep, it matters to me. I see nothing wrong with grabbing a spot in line for your group. I do it all the time. Stay together, split up if needed, then meet back with the rest of your group, even in a line. I hope you're never in a theme park with me and whoever I'm with.

I used to purposely do this,back when I was a teen. Me and my dad would watch wishes, and a few minutes before it was over I'd ask him to get in line for space mt and I'd meet him when it was over. Or he'd get fast passes and meet me in line or I'd go to the bathroom while he was in line and later meet him. Then I got older and realize how much of a discourtesy it is to people around you. With that said, I'm not saying that I would never meet up with a group I'm with, I just wouldn't purposely do it. All the evil stares and what not, don't think I could care any less about that. Most fast pass lines are right next to the standby lines so I just use them. And as far as the original post, I'd wait till the line stopped and simply walk right in front of the guy. A couple did that to me while in line for tsm, and I just walked right back in front of them.

 

[Mr Anderson]

What if they left the line before you entered the line? What would you do then?

Some of you just aren't making sense. I would advise you all that have a problem with people joining their groups in line to stay away from the theme parks in Southern California. It is very common and normal for folks to either leave the line and come back or join their groups whenever they feel like it. Wouldn't want your undies getting in a bunch or your blood pressure going up, so seriously, don't visit any of the theme parks in Southern California.

From your post history in this thread, it seems like you're the one getting your panties getting in a bunch. I wholeheartedly agree with @G00fyDad & @unkadug that your idea of "common and normal" queue etiquette is just inconsiderate behavior; to leave the queue and rejoin whenever you feel like it is just plain rude, I don't care where you're from.

Also, I can guarantee that if you went and complained to a cast member "That guy over there isn't letting me skip up in queue to rejoin my family/friends because I jumped out just because I felt like it" they would tell you "You should have stayed with your group." How do I know this? I've seen it happen before when I've blocked someone from passing me in queue.

 

[Hockey89]

What if they left the line before you entered the line? What would you do then?

Some of you just aren't making sense. I would advise you all that have a problem with people joining their groups in line to stay away from the theme parks in Southern California. It is very common and normal for folks to either leave the line and come back or join their groups whenever they feel like it. Wouldn't want your undies getting in a bunch or your blood pressure going up, so seriously, don't visit any of the theme parks in Southern California.

You just don't get it bc it is all about you.... The post above nailed it too...Wake up

 

[dadddio]

I see that we've reached the point in the thread where one side just starts attacking the other instead of discussing the issue.

 

[Californian Elitist]

You just don't get it bc it is all about you.... The post above nailed it too...Wake up

I don't need to wake up from anything. But you are right about one thing, I don't get why letting a person back in line from a bathroom break is such a big deal.

From your post history in this thread, it seems like you're the one getting your panties getting in a bunch. I wholeheartedly agree with @G00fyDad & @unkadug that your idea of "common and normal" queue etiquette is just inconsiderate behavior; to leave the queue and rejoin whenever you feel like it is just plain rude, I don't care where you're from.

Also, I can guarantee that if you went and complained to a cast member "That guy over there isn't letting me skip up in queue to rejoin my family/friends because I jumped out just because I felt like it" they would tell you "You should have stayed with your group." How do I know this? I've seen it happen before when I've blocked someone from passing me in queue.

My "undies" comment has nothing to do with this thread.

I used to be a CM, and now I'm a Team Member at Universal in CA. When I was at Disneyland, my co-workers and I always let people join their families in line, and the same holds true for Universal. I wouldn't guarantee anything, at least not for the CA parks.

You never answered the question I asked you. You said you have to physically see someone leave the line to let them back in. What if they left the line before you entered it? How would you handle the situation?

I used to purposely do this,back when I was a teen. Me and my dad would watch wishes, and a few minutes before it was over I'd ask him to get in line for space mt and I'd meet him when it was over. Or he'd get fast passes and meet me in line or I'd go to the bathroom while he was in line and later meet him. Then I got older and realize how much of a discourtesy it is to people around you. With that said, I'm not saying that I would never meet up with a group I'm with, I just wouldn't purposely do it. All the evil stares and what not, don't think I could care any less about that. Most fast pass lines are right next to the standby lines so I just use them. And as far as the original post, I'd wait till the line stopped and simply walk right in front of the guy. A couple did that to me while in line for tsm, and I just walked right back in front of them.

Exactly. I'm specifically referencing to sudden urges to use the bathroom in line. How would you feel if you were standing in line and the urge to use it came, you left to use it, came back and people refused to let you back in and told you to go to the end of the line? And people thought you were the rude one for leaving the line and having the nerve to meet up with your family? That wouldn't stop you from entering back.

Communication goes a long way with me. Say "excuse me, I just need to meet up with my family" or something similar and I will gladly move aside for you. Be an a-hole about it (grab my shoulders and push me to the side) and I might lose it on you.

I agree. Kindly telling folks you need to meet back up with your family is not rude. And BTW, I never insinuated that you do it in a rude way (this isn't directly towards you, Ally).

That is just inconsiderate behavior and certainly NOT NORMAL no matter what park you are in, and I would still do the same as @G00fyDad whether in Florida or California.

Being a west coast jerk is still being a jerk.

It's normal in Southern California theme parks. You can consider it to be very rude, but that doesn't take away the fact that it's not really considered rude behavior in SoCal.

 

[Mr Anderson]

My "undies" comment has nothing to do with this thread.

I used to be a CM, and now I'm a Team Member at Universal in CA. When I was at Disneyland, my co-workers and I always let people join their families in line, and the same holds true for Universal. I wouldn't guarantee anything, at least not for the CA parks.

You never answered the question I asked you. You said you have to physically see someone leave the line to let them back in. What if they left the line before you entered it? How would you handle the situation?

If you left the queue, and you try to skip me, it's my prerogative to block you or let you by. When I say "Sorry, no can do.", and you politely say "Oh man, my kid had to use the bathroom; my wife is going to wonder where we are. Can't you let me by please?" Sure! Totally excusable. Kids are kids after all. Plus, being polite goes a long way.

However, if your reply is full of attitude, or you left the queue "just because you felt like it" or for refreshments or anything else... Well, see below.

Does that answer your question?