Martin1000
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How is the food situation in the stores of Orlando?
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Hurricane Irma
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ford91exploder
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Schedule 80 PVC leaks because its so thermally unstable and the glue joints eventually break
DisneyCane
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A quick additional comment to the underground power lines comments from this thread. The lines a the top of a typical pole can cost around $1.5 million per line per mile to put underground when you are looking at adding a new line in a "virgin" area. This cost can be even higher with the challenges of converting an already developed area.
Many utility poles have 3 lines on the top (sometimes even 6 or 9). That means a minimum of $4.5 million per mile to switch overhead to underground. Based on FPL having 43,000 miles of overhead lines and assuming some mix of 3 lines vs 1 line, it would cost at least $90 BILLION dollars for them to convert everything.
There are other utilities that serve other areas of the state as well. I don't know what the percentages are but even if FPL serves 2/3 of the state, you'd have to add another $45 billion to convert the rest. Therefore, it would cost at least $135 billion to convert the entire State of Florida to underground electric.
Underground is not completely unsusceptible to windstorm damage. Trees grow roots under the conduit and if the tree gets knocked over, the root system can take out the lines. When underground lines are damaged, they take longer to fix. So Florida utility customers would pay at least $135 billion to get a little less impact from hurricanes but be out of power longer when it goes out.
Many utility poles have 3 lines on the top (sometimes even 6 or 9). That means a minimum of $4.5 million per mile to switch overhead to underground. Based on FPL having 43,000 miles of overhead lines and assuming some mix of 3 lines vs 1 line, it would cost at least $90 BILLION dollars for them to convert everything.
There are other utilities that serve other areas of the state as well. I don't know what the percentages are but even if FPL serves 2/3 of the state, you'd have to add another $45 billion to convert the rest. Therefore, it would cost at least $135 billion to convert the entire State of Florida to underground electric.
Underground is not completely unsusceptible to windstorm damage. Trees grow roots under the conduit and if the tree gets knocked over, the root system can take out the lines. When underground lines are damaged, they take longer to fix. So Florida utility customers would pay at least $135 billion to get a little less impact from hurricanes but be out of power longer when it goes out.
John park hopper
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With all the damage from Harvey and now Irma be prepared to hear the insurance companies moaning they need rate increase to cover their loses. Don't think I want to pay the electric companies anymore----- I'll never have any money to go to WDW
MySmallWorldof4
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Thanks for the picture. I always watch the southernmost webcam to watch people wait on line to get a picture there. Hoping the recovery will be quicker than expected.View attachment 229212
Shared by a friend of ours whose Son was supposed to get married at a resort in Key West next weekend.. So sad to see all the devastation there. they don't live in the area, but it is their favorite vacation spot...
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Underground lines are not a panacea, HV distribution lines are usually not damaged in storms but residential lines usually sustain heavy damage.
21stamps
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Shared by a friend of ours whose Son was supposed to get married at a resort in Key West next weekend.. So sad to see all the devastation there. they don't live in the area, but it is their favorite vacation spot...
Oh that's sad. Hopefully the couple will be able to celebrate their first anniversary in KW.
The photos and videos coming out of the Keys are devastating.
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Good news, thanks for posting!
Martin1000
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is their food again in the stores of Orlando?
disneygeek90
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Hearing it could be 3 WEEKS until all of Naples/Ft Myers area is with power. I can't even imagine what it's like sleeping in south Florida in September with no ac. My friend posted a video of a Publix who was open, cash only, and all refrigerator items were stripped. Gas is still insanely scarce down there and people are going out at 6:30am to wait for the trucks.
bclane
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Depends on where you go. Some stores and gas stations are doing pretty good. Some aren't. You will find what you are looking for most likely but you may have to drive around a bit.
John park hopper
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Anyone at Fort Wilderness that has pictures would be appreciated.
DisneyCane
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It is but more stations will come online every day. As power is restored people also need less gas to run generators. You'll be fine for gas on Thursday. Use the gasbuddy tracker to find stations operating with fuel available.
worldfanatic
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Isn't FW still closed?
worldfanatic
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Disney's official schedule has a water parks open today. Can anybody confirm?
jaklgreen
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Quick dining update for Monday Night:
The Wave switched yesterday to a buffet. We did Cali grill last night so didn't get to do this. Cali grill was great. But why oh why didn't I do this yesterday also?
Food was great.
The kicker? $15/adult. $8/child. Drinks included and still offering AP/DVC discount.
The managers- Jill w/ F&B and Oliver at the Wave were extraordinary. Eric at the front desk may have been the standout. Mim, the GM of The Contemporary and the staff is hands down the best resort during this storm. I travel for a living. I've stayed at every deluxe. I'm DVC. Never have I had this good of service.
And now, the dining room proudly presents... your dinner.
The bottom line- they've learned their lesson from last year and came back and outdid themselves.
I don't think $15 is bad at all for a buffet. I mean you would have had to eat something anyway and most counter service meals with drink are around $10-$15 bucks. Heck Panera charges $9 for just 1 sandwich.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
I would like to give a shout out to all the CM's who assisted with cleanup in and around the parks and resorts after Irma especially to get all the parks open within 24 hours after they began assessment on Monday morning. I know some work is still ongoing in places... but it looks like a great job in the short amount of time in my opinion with so much to do in so many different places. Job well done
rocketraccoon
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Man, practically living in the woods is great for noise and privacy but it sucks knowing we won't get power for a few more days at the earliest even though we're fairly North. Phone lines will probably come back before power.
Managed to be first in line when a gas station reopened so I got a few cans for our generator which we are probably close to overloading.
Stetson University in DeLand is starting graduate classes again tomorrow even though undergraduate ones won't start until Monday at the absolute earliest. It's not a huge campus but parts of it still don't have power apparently.
Managed to be first in line when a gas station reopened so I got a few cans for our generator which we are probably close to overloading.
Stetson University in DeLand is starting graduate classes again tomorrow even though undergraduate ones won't start until Monday at the absolute earliest. It's not a huge campus but parts of it still don't have power apparently.