Hurricane Irma

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

An improvement!

Even irma couldn't take down Mr.Toad

 

[5thGenTexan]

Thanks! Not that $4800 is chump change or anything (I wouldn't enjoy paying for it that's for sure) but that's actually lower than I would have expected. Do you know how much it would have cost to go overhead (for comparison sake)?

I cant say for sure, but it seems like it was maybe $1200 or so. I remember burying the line was a pretty big decision, it was considerably more to the extent that we talked a good bit if we really wanted to spend that much more. And that $4800 is just what we paid to help with the cost, the co-op also contributed to the cost as well.

 

[jt04]

If you read the post- they have a generator. Guess what though? You need gas to run a generator.

FPL should not take 2 weeks. They have had 12 Years to prepare for this and correct their previous faults.

There are 20,000 people assigned to putting things back together. At least that many volunteering. And many more than that taking personal initiative picking up branches etc. There is no way to secure all power lines without electric bills doubling in the future to pay for it.

PS- a vehicles gas tank is a perfect reserve. Just need an inexpensive siphon hose. Best time to prepare/practice is before a disaster strikes. Plenty of YouTube how-to videos. Can be done very inexpensively. Just my two cents.

 

[bclane]

I cant say for sure, but it seems like it was maybe $1200 or so. I remember burying the line was a pretty big decision, it was considerably more to the extent that we talked a good bit if we really wanted to spend that much more. And that $4800 is just what we paid to help with the cost, the co-op also contributed to the cost as well.

Wow that is quite a bit more! Thanks for the info.

 

[disneygeek90]

Here at Epcot again, park looks great. Would never know a hurricane had blown through less than 48 hours ago. Signs on kiosks are still down but that's about it.

 

[21stamps]

There are 20,000 people assigned to putting things back together. At least that many volunteering. And many more than that taking personal initiative. There is no way to secure all power lines without electric bills doubling in the future to pay for it.

PS- a vehicles gas tank is a perfect reserve. Just need an inexpensive siphon hose. Best time to prepare/practice is before a disaster strikes. Plenty of YouTube how-to videos. Can be done very inexpensively. Just my two cents.

I'm not even being snarky with this question-

How do you get gas for your vehicle if you just used it for your generator?

I understand why people are upset with FPL. For 2 years we had back to back to back outages from storms.. the last of those being the worst of all...a Category 3 hurricane in 2005 that left 6 million people without power and fuel for way too long. Afterwards there were state inquiries on why it happened and what could be done. FPL spent billions and told everyone that "next time" would be better. People there now are not seeing the "better" as much as they thought they would, especially when this one was not a Category 3 hurricane. Days before restorations are understandable...but after all of those "improvements" why is it still projected as 'weeks', especially after a weaker storm. I'd be furious too.

I'll add that it does not appear to be a total repeat of the mid 2000s from what I'm hearing.. more gas stations are open, power is being restored in many places- all of that is a huge positive.

 

[jt04]

I'm not even being snarky with this question-

How do you get gas for your vehicle if you just used it for your generator?

I understand why people are upset with FPL. For 2 years we had back to back to back outages from storms.. the last of those being the worst of all...a Category 3 hurricane in 2005 that left 6 million people without power and fuel for way too long. Afterwards there were state inquiries on why it happened and it what could be done. FPL spent billions and told everyone that "next time" would be better. People there now are not seeing the "better" as much as they thought they would, especially when this one was not a Category 3 hurricane.


Now Irma hit.. Days before restorations are understandable...but after all of those "improvements" why is it still projected as 'weeks'? I'd be furious too.

Week estimates are the outliers. The storm impacted nearly the entire state. Tough to plan for that. I expect FPL will be much more proactive about clearing trees away from their lines going forward.

A full car gas tank can be used as a resource for a few days to keep a small gen going. By then gas stations should receive a resupply.

 

[21stamps]

Week estimates are the outliers. The storm impacted nearly the entire state. Tough to plan for that. I expect FPL will be much more proactive about clearing trees away from their lines going forward.

A full car gas tank can be used as a resource for a few days to keep a small gen going. By then gas stations should receive a resupply.

It's not enough to keep a decent sized generator going and still having enough gas to get around if you need to. I don't know what/who is recommending that, but it sounds like a potentially bad idea to cut off your method of transportation after a disaster.

Outliers as in who though? These people aren't out in the boonies.. they're in communities in populated areas. But it is one more reason, besides alligators, that people shouldn't buy a home West of federal highway or at the very least, not west of I95.lol

 

[ScoutN]

I'm not even being snarky with this question-

How do you get gas for your vehicle if you just used it for your generator?

I understand why people are upset with FPL. For 2 years we had back to back to back outages from storms.. the last of those being the worst of all...a Category 3 hurricane in 2005 that left 6 million people without power and fuel for way too long. Afterwards there were state inquiries on why it happened and what could be done. FPL spent billions and told everyone that "next time" would be better. People there now are not seeing the "better" as much as they thought they would, especially when this one was not a Category 3 hurricane. Days before restorations are understandable...but after all of those "improvements" why is it still projected as 'weeks', especially after a weaker storm. I'd be furious too.

I'll add that it does not appear to be a total repeat of the mid 2000s from what I'm hearing.. more gas stations are open, power is being restored in many places- all of that is a huge positive.

You realize that those storms did not whack nearly the whole state like Irma did, right?

 

[jt04]

It's not enough to keep a decent sized generator going and still having enough gas to get around if you need to. I don't know what/who is recommending that, but it sounds like a potentially bad idea to cut off your method of transportation after a disaster.

It is an option if stranded. Of course you leave what you need in the tank. The point is to give yourself options rather than none.

 

[21stamps]

You realize that those storms did not whack nearly the whole state like Irma did, right?

They also didn't have anywhere near the response team ready, and had much worse infrastructure.

 

[ScoutN]

They also didn't have anywhere near the response team ready, and had much worse infrastructure.

You realize that those storms did not whack nearly the whole state like Irma did, right?

I will take that as a no.

 

[ford91exploder]

No, just NO! Joisey is closed to tropical storms by order of Figgy. Hey it's worth a try

Besides NJ already has one blowhard in Trenton it does not need another on the jersey shore...

 

[danlb_2000]

It's not enough to keep a decent sized generator going and still having enough gas to get around if you need to. I don't know what/who is recommending that, but it sounds like a potentially bad idea to cut off your method of transportation after a disaster.

Outliers as in who though? These people aren't out in the boonies.. they're in communities in populated areas. But it is one more reason, besides alligators, that people shouldn't buy a home West of federal highway or at the very least, not west of I95.lol

Power is generally restored starting with the repairs that restore the most customer and then working their way down to the more isolated repairs. If your house is the only one on the block that doesn't have power because the line from the pole to the house is down, you are probably going to be low on the list. Remember, it's only been a little over 24 hours since the storm cleared the state, it's a little early to jump to conclusions on how well the power restoration went.

 

[21stamps]

I will take that as a no.

I'll say this again, I understand why people who are being told "2 weeks" are upset. The new improvements should have made this easier, even with the widespread outages. This isn't equipment that has been beat down by 7 consecutive landfall hurricanes as it was in those 2 years.. the equipment is mostly "new and improved", almost all of it.

 

[danlb_2000]

I'll say this again, I understand why people who are being told "2 weeks" are upset. The new improvements should have made this easier, even with the widespread outages. This isn't equipment that has been beat down by 7 consecutive landfall hurricanes as it was in those 2 years.. the equipment is mostly "new and improved", almost all of it.

What was the worst case for power restoration last time? Considering how many people are without power in Florida, 2 weeks seams reasonable to me.

 

[ScoutN]

What was the worst case for power restoration last time? Considering how many people are without power in Florida, 2 weeks seams reasonable to me.

 

[21stamps]

Power is generally restored starting with the repairs that restore the most customer and then working their way down to the more isolated repairs. If your house is the only one on the block that doesn't have power because the line from the pole to the house is down, you are probably going to be low on the list. Remember, it's only been a little over 24 hours since the storm cleared the state, it's a little early to jump to conclusions on how well the power restoration went.

It's been 3 days for south Florida residents. And a lot of them are being told 1 week or more from now by FPL.

I always lived in a downtown area, or high tourist/business area. I was lucky that my power was restored faster than most.. and even then it was longer than it should have been.
I know that FPL is not taking their time intentionally and that they are working incredibly hard.. I have a ton of respect for everyone out there. I just think expectations were higher this time, because they were pitched as such. My heart's breaking for those who are not only stuck outside of their county without knowing when they can return, and also dealing with power outages at the places they are stuck... relying on other people to keep them up to date on their hometown. I hope it ends soon.

 

[danlb_2000]

It's been 3 days for south Florida residents. And a lot of them are being told 1 week or more from now by FPL.

I always lived in a downtown area, or high tourist/business area. I was lucky that my power was restored faster than most.. and even then it was longer than it should have been.
I know that FPL is not taking their time intentionally and that they are working incredibly hard.. I have a ton of respect for everyone out there. I just think expectations were higher this time, because they were pitched as such. My heart's breaking for those who are not only stuck outside of their county without knowing when they can return, and also dealing with power outages at the places they are stuck... relying on other people to keep them up to date on their hometown. I hope it ends soon.

It's quite likely that restorations times would be much longer if it hadn't been for the improvements that have been made.

 

[21stamps]

What was the worst case for power restoration last time? Considering how many people are without power in Florida, 2 weeks seams reasonable to me.

The problem last time was the power everywhere- gas stations, traffic lights, homes.. and so many without water. Worst case for power restoration in homes was nearly a month in some areas, and that was a major hurricane with the previous poles and lines etc, coming on the back of many other hurricanes in a year's time.. FPL has, as I said, spent $2billion dollars on improvements since, because of what happened in that year.

ETA.. wanted to respond to your above comment, That's exactly why people are angry.. if it would have been longer "if improvements hadn't been made" then wth is going to happen when another major hurricane does hit that highly populated area? It's the highest populated in the state, and the most at risk for hurricanes. Thankfully no one had to find out the answer this time.. but there will be a 'next' at some point.