Hurricane Ian expected to impact Florida (updates and related discussions)

[ToTBellHop]

lots of wind kicking up again. Then I checked and saw this

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Another wave slinging back

It’s not predicted to accumulate much more and should move out after lunchtime.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Why spacing matters.

 

[Dinardo]

What are you both talking about? You're comparing apples and oranges. There is a big difference in providing utility service to a highly planned development (Disney) versus a standard residential neighborhood.

In either case all applicable safety and installation standards are followed for the planning, installation, and service of transmission and distribution equipment.

I agree - its almost as if other power companies should model their business after the Disney power grid - since they don't lose power during storms.

 

[monothingie]

I blame this on the media doing its best to sensationalize the horror of the hurricane hitting Tampa. Gotta make it a story so that people will keep watching instead of taking proper precautions.

I'm no fan of the media, but that's not fair.

NWS had a direct hit on Tampa up until 24 hours out and before that it was all over the place. Same thing with most forecasting models. Even though the NWS forecast specifically stated a high degree of uncertainty, what they were showing would have been a worst case scenario and deserved as much attention as possible.

 

[peter11435]

I agree - its almost as if other power companies should model their business after the Disney power grid - since they don't lose power during storms.

That’s exactly it. Regardless of what “safety and installation standards” are followed, there is no excuse for new construction to not include robust and protected electrical transmission in this state.

 

[Andy_0410]

Looking out of window At Colorado looks like a normal rainy morning now. Towel I put in front of the door is dry to. So no water was pushed under it

 

[Andrew C]

I agree - its almost as if other power companies should model their business after the Disney power grid - since they don't lose power during storms.

I imagine it is a lot easier for reedy creek energy services to keep the lights on a WDW than other services trying to do it for millions of people across the state...particularly during a hurricane.

 

[mickeyfan73]

Maybe I am niave when it comes to hurricanes, but for me the focus was always on the wind speed.. maybe because I am used to tornados.. And on the TV screens all you really saw was the wind as this makes it a CAT 4 vs 5 so more newsworthly. So I wonder if locals focus more on the "strengh" wind vs. potential flooding??? maybe that is why many didnt leave as the focus was on wind.. thinking okay my house is hurricane built so i'll be ok. The news did report on expected water surge but more focuson wind vs. water in reporting.. until it happens then there is the water reporting. knwim?

 

[Andrew C]

there is no excuse for new construction to not include robust and protected electrical transmission in this state.

Sure there is an excuse. A CAT4 hurricane. Anyways, hundreds of thousands have already had their power restored. They are working on it.

 

[Joel]

and they have older trees, they have been meaning to get taken care of

Reminds me of that old proverb: "The best time to cut down a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is... ah, hell, just wait for a hurricane to take care of it."

 

[monothingie]

That’s exactly it. Regardless of what “safety and installation standards” are followed, there is no excuse for new construction to not include robust and protected electrical transmission in this state.

How much more per KW Hour do you want to pay for that?

 

[Dinardo]

I'm no fan of the media, but that's not fair.

NWS had a direct hit on Tampa up until 24 hours out and before that it was all over the place. Same thing with most forecasting models. Even though the NWS forecast specifically stated a high degree of uncertainty, what they were showing would have been a worst case scenario and deserved as much attention as possible.

I believe they could've been more focused on the high degree of uncertainty - because that's exactly what happened here.

Anyone who bothered to look at the updates could see that this storm was jogging east on almost all the updates.

 

[The Mighty Tim]

Looking out of window At Colorado looks like a normal rainy morning now. Towel I put in front of the door is dry to. So no water was pushed under it

Same here. My room faces a car park and it seems ok, save for a small tree branch in the middle.

Right now, I'm trying to figure out if/when I can get over to El Centro for a change of scenery!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If its one thing Chapek is going to save $$ on is the monthly water bill. Unless if WDW is like some of the businesses that its sprinkler system comes on even if it is raining.

It will be 95 tomorrow and bake the place…SOP

 

[ToTBellHop]

I agree - its almost as if other power companies should model their business after the Disney power grid - since they don't lose power during storms.

It’s not just the power grid but also the design of the entire property, including drainage. Despite our criticisms elsewhere, Disney is well-aware that hurricanes can impact Central Florida and has built a resort area that can accommodate that.

Tremendous amounts of money will do that. And unlike flooded trailer parks, Disney has the ability to make a fortune every day the resort is open. So it’s worth it to them to spend the money ensuring the resort can weather major storms.

Utility companies do the bare minimum everywhere. They don’t want to spend boatloads of money to mitigate impacts of these rare events and only do so when forced.

 

[G00fyDad]

It’s not just the power grid but also the design of the entire property, including drainage. Despite our criticisms elsewhere, Disney is well-aware that hurricanes can impact Central Florida and has built a resort area that can accommodate that.

Tremendous amounts of money will do that.

Utility companies do the bare minimum everywhere. They don’t want to spend boatloads of money to mitigate impacts of these rare events and only do so when forced.

^^^THIS^^^

 

[Touchdown]

Maybe I am niave when it comes to hurricanes, but for me the focus was always on the wind speed.. maybe because I am used to tornados.. And on the TV screens all you really saw was the wind as this makes it a CAT 4 vs 5 so more newsworthly. So I wonder if locals focus more on the "strengh" wind vs. potential flooding??? maybe that is why many didnt leave as the focus was on wind.. thinking okay my house is hurricane built so i'll be ok. The news did report on expected water surge but more focuson wind vs. water in reporting.. until it happens then there is the water reporting. knwim?

Except surge warnings were specifically highlighted in forecasts leading up to the storm.

 

[peter11435]

Sure there is an excuse. A CAT4 hurricane. Anyways, hundreds of thousands have already had their power restored. They are working on it.

No, That’s the excuse for why power failed. It’s the reason infrastructure should be improved to prevent that failure.

 

[Dinardo]

It’s not just the power grid but also the design of the entire property, including drainage. Despite our criticisms elsewhere, Disney is well-aware that hurricanes can impact Central Florida and has built a resort area that can accommodate that.

Tremendous amounts of money will do that.

Utility companies do the bare minimum everywhere. They don’t want to spend boatloads of money to mitigate impacts of these rare events and only do so when forced.

Curious - is the power grid at Disney (Reedy Creek, i guess) regulated by the Florida government?

 

[monothingie]

Utility companies do the bare minimum everywhere. They don’t want to spend boatloads of money to mitigate impacts of these rare events and only do so when forced.

^^^THIS^^^

I'm all for it.

Who's gonna pay for it?