Hurricane Ian expected to impact Florida (updates and related discussions)

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The cone isn’t misleading. People just refuse to understand how to actually read it.

Exactly

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Ayla]

I had a feeling we’d see this. ..this is why I think the NHC cone is extremely misleading

They say over and over and over the cone is a guideline and effects will be felt outside the cone. If I know that in WI, surely people in FL paying the least bit of attention know it, too.

 

[Zummi Gummi]

Sheriffs are having to stop people driving to get to...Publix. Which has closed most stores in the area.

 

[LAKid53]

No a hurricane is seen coming days ahead of time unlike a tornado. What I’m saying is too many sometimes focus on the cone and think all is well if the storm just follows the line in the middle not realizing how large and damaging these things are all around the “line”

NHC and other meteorologists repeatedly say to pay attention to the entire cone, not the line in the middle.

 

[plutofan15]

I heard they were rolling out mobile cell towers after the storm. Any info on how those work? I just found it interesting so I am curious. Do those run on generators?

COWs are used in many different emergency situations. Here are some photos of the unit we set up outside the Pentagon after 9/11. This is an old, early version of a COW we called the “bread truck”. You can see the portable generator used to power it in one photo, In the photo from above, the COW is in the lower left corner.

 

[JohnD]

NHC and other meteorologists repeatedly say to pay attention to the entire cone, not the line in the middle.

True. Except the entire cone over the course of the week went from the left edge of Apalchicola to the right edge of extreme SW FL with the center from Tallahassee to Fr. Myers. You can't plan with that.

 

[ToTBellHop]

No a hurricane is seen coming days ahead of time unlike a tornado. What I’m saying is too many sometimes focus on the cone and think all is well if the storm just follows the line in the middle not realizing how large and damaging these things are all around the “line”

If a person lives in Florida and does not have a basic understanding of hurricane size and impacts, they are a lost cause.

Tourists can be forgiven for their ignorance, but not locals.

I live in freakin’ Connecticut and we know enough to stock up if a tropical system or nor’easter is predicted to come anywhere within a couple hundred miles. The projected paths always shift wildly.

 

[GhostHost1000]

NHC and other meteorologists repeatedly say to pay attention to the entire cone, not the line in the middle.

I know they do but a lot of people don’t watch the news anymore. They see images on social media now and that’s about it and think it’s just another Florida rain storm

I know some maybe weren’t able to evacuate for certain reasons but that’s scary to ride out in some places

 

[GhostHost1000]

If a person lives in Florida and does not have a basic understanding of hurricane size and impacts, they are a lost cause.

Tourists can be forgiven for their ignorance, but not locals.

Exactly right. Though Florida does have new residents moving in all the time between one hurricane to the next and just don’t know any better I guess. Tough situation for sure

 

[Vacationeer]

This was from 5am on Tues morning. The red line shows hurricane warning to both harbors, Tampa and Charlotte. The M denotes Major hurricane, wind speeds over 110mph. At this point the storm was still centered over Cuba. Without the service forecast experts provided, there were 4 gulf states to potentially get hit. They narrowed it down to the middle of Florida’s west coast. I’m pretty impressed by that. It was already seen as a high likelihood the week prior.

There is also a note at the top: Hazardous conditions can occur outside the cone.

It’s very hard to concisely communicate to the public.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Exactly right. Though Florida does have new residents moving in all the time between one hurricane to the next and just don’t know any better I guess. Tough situation for sure

Growing mistrust of science doesn’t help at all. People search for reasons to believe science is fake and ”feelings” are far more important.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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…that looks like a crappy one anyway

 

[mickeyfan73]

I honestly feel that basic comprehension or logic actually is missing by many people. Sad, but true.

 

[DryerLintFan]

I still don't know for sure, but were people in Naples and Fort Myers told to evacuate? That is all is needed to be known.. Once that decision is made, why even look at any cone or spaghetti PROJECTIONS.

The cone isn’t misleading. People just refuse to understand how to actually read it.

NHC and other meteorologists repeatedly say to pay attention to the entire cone, not the line in the middle.

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The cone included Fort Meyers and the NHC issued a hurricane warning for the area days before the storm. I don’t see what’s misleading about that.

While y'all are nitpicking the cone, can we just take a minute to remember that the winds didn't decimate the area, the storm surge did.

They were unfortunately positioned to catch all that water that was pulled out of Tampa Bay and Peace River and it shot right up into their houses. As much as we talk about where this the Hurricaine is going to hit and Howe much storm surge is expected, I'll be honest and say I had no way of comprehending the magnitude of this storm surge impact until I watched it roll in on video and on Twitter posts.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

If a person lives in Florida and does not have a basic understanding of hurricane size and impacts, they are a lost cause.

Tourists can be forgiven for their ignorance, but not locals.

I live in freakin’ Connecticut and we know enough to stock up if a tropical system or nor’easter is predicted to come anywhere within a couple hundred miles. The projected paths always shift wildly.

The idiots want a block by block forecast…

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Thoughts with everyone in FL. Luckily it’s heading out but still dumping a ton of rain, especially between Daytona and St. Augustine. I’m in the upstate of SC and we already have sustained winds at 20mph and is supposed to increase throughout the day and over night. I just hope the water isn’t warm enough to strengthen it back up to a low cat 1 before it makes a 2nd landfall here in SC.

 

[bcoachable]

Thought- if “we the people” can’t make educated decisions for ourselves, we will begin to see our government make them for us….

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I agree. Even the wide "come of uncertainty" was off. First, the center of the cone was Ft. Myers then it tracked west toward Tallahassee. A friend of mine was irked that people were raiding the food shelves in Tallahassee. Blame that on the models. After all that, it came in around Ft. Myers after all.

Shocking

 

[GhostHost1000]

While y'all are nitpicking the cone, can we just take a minute to remember that the winds didn't decimate the area, the storm surge did.

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They were unfortunately positioned to catch all that water that was pulled out of Tampa Bay and Peace River and it shot right up into their houses. As much as we talk about where this the Hurricaine is going to hit and Howe much storm surge is expected, I'll be honest and say I had no way of comprehending the magnitude of this storm surge impact until I watched it roll in on video and on Twitter posts.

It was pretty mind blowing to see. They were predicting up to 18ft of surge in some places though, I think residents and heck even us have a hard time imagining sometimes what that really means or may look like and do. Hate to see so many lives changed forever