Hunchback of Notre Dame Show?

Stitch_626_UK

New Member
Everyone dies.

Normally I say that in sarcasm... but it's not too far off in this scenerio.

thats true in the book, but the berlin staged version only had esmerellda and frollo's deaths so still not quite accurate to the book but still more adult for disney,

personally i hope they keep it like this. The movie's ending altho nice, is far too nice for such a gothic novel.
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
You got Belle and Gaston right... also, all the dancers. I admit, I have no idea the number of dancers per show.

I don't think the dancers at BatB are Equity. They might be, because of the compexity of the dance combinations (it has more complicated coreography than the other shows), but I know parade performers and the chorus of FotLK aren't. Disney tends to reserve Equity positions for specialty acts, singers, and musicians. Dancers, not so much.
 

disnyfan89

Well-Known Member
Just to chime in real quick:

I knew a few people who worked in the Hunchback show. The reason the show closed was because of problems with the stage. In order for them to fix the problem they would have had to almost completely rebuild the theater. At the time Hunchback was not very popular with guest. Disney did not see enough reasons to keep the show going from a financial stand point. The performers themselves had very little notice of the show closing. AS you can see, Disney did some work but nothing major converting the entire area into storage until recently when they went in and practicably rebuilt the theater.

BatB dancers are indeed Equity just like the non-character performers in DAWM.

I do hope they bring Hunchback to Broadway. The entire project was worked on in NYC and written completely in English before being translated into German. They did this so all the performers knew what they were saying as the first cast was mostly, if not all English. One problem with Hunchback is the way they built the stage for the production in Germany. The stage layout is too large to fit on any stage on Broadway. They would have to change they way this is done which is a frightening thought as the last two shows on Broadway have no real set at all. If Hunchback was to ever come to Broadway I would hope that they keep the original story line of the show in Germany. Plenty of people die in Disney movies, even the good guys have died. If Disney was to keep the show the way it is I think Broadway would be much more accepting of Disney.
 

OFTeric

Well-Known Member
I don't think the dancers at BatB are Equity. They might be, because of the compexity of the dance combinations (it has more complicated coreography than the other shows), but I know parade performers and the chorus of FotLK aren't. Disney tends to reserve Equity positions for specialty acts, singers, and musicians. Dancers, not so much.

If I may chime in on the whole equity thing...

In BatB Belle, Gaston, and all of the dancers are Equity. The only people who aren't equity in that performace are the Character performers.

In Festival of the Lion King, you have the 4 singers, The Fire Bird, and the Flying Bird, the Fire dancer, and Tumble Monkeys are Equity. All other "mover" character performers, and stilt walkers are non-equity.

Nemo is ALL Equity.

Little Mermaid- Ariel is the only equity performer.

In Indiana Jones- they are all equity.

LMA- All Equity.

The performers in parades that do stunts i.e. Block Party Bash - are non-equity, but they are independently contracted with Disney. The Equity union really wants nothing to do with Parades (unless of course it is the Christmas Parade and going to be on T.V.)

Hope this helps.
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
If I may chime in on the whole equity thing...

In BatB Belle, Gaston, and all of the dancers are Equity. The only people who aren't equity in that performace are the Character performers.

In Festival of the Lion King, you have the 4 singers, The Fire Bird, and the Flying Bird, the Fire dancer, and Tumble Monkeys are Equity. All other "mover" character performers, and stilt walkers are non-equity.

Nemo is ALL Equity.

Little Mermaid- Ariel is the only equity performer.

In Indiana Jones- they are all equity.

LMA- All Equity.

The performers in parades that do stunts i.e. Block Party Bash - are non-equity, but they are independently contracted with Disney. The Equity union really wants nothing to do with Parades (unless of course it is the Christmas Parade and going to be on T.V.)

Hope this helps.
It does indeed.

BatB was the only show I wasn't entirely sure on.

The all-Equity rule of Nemo is a huge reason why I haven't auditioned for it. I'm just not too interested in playing by Equity-House rules right now.

Are the Dapper Dans Equity?
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
I dont know any of the answers or really have anything to contribute but I want to get my post in as it all adds to the numbers.

Oh wait, it was a great show, better than that B&TB carp and was always full when I was there, perhaps Disney had invested in plenty of backing tapes for the cast to mime to at B&TB and wanted their moneys worth
 

redkoala245

New Member
That is an interesting question. I didn't realize that it is not gone, like demolished. I thought it was taken over by Lights Motors Action for a while, but that used to be space.
I hope they at least do something to it because I don't want to see a shut down theater all bordered up :(.
Hunchback used to be a great show just like Doug Live. I bet Hunchback got removed because maybe popularity reasons.
 

ClemsonTigger

Naturally Grumpy
on the opening night of broadways little mermaid, one of the producers (i could be wrong but it was defiantly someone high up) said that the next disney broadway project was going to be hunchback,
which i hope they do, i have the german recording for it, and it is amazing, even if the new ending is a little un disney!

Let's just hope they spend more time on it than they did on Tarzan...:eek:
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
Let's just hope they spend more time on it than they did on Tarzan...:eek:

Tarzan was hurt because the crammed a show that was too big for stage onto a stage. The original concept was for a Theater in the Round (similar to Cirque) where the audience sat around the stage and the aerial acrobatics actually took place above the audience.

They couldn't do it on Broadway, so it was stuffed in a traditional theater. It failed.

(The fact that most of the new songs just weren't that good didn't help. "Who Better Than Me" and "I Want To Know" are the only two that stood out to me.)

But, the production is actually playing in Denmark now, in the round how it's suppose to be, and is doing quite well.

Tarzan on Broadway would have been great if had more to look at than a pea green shoebox for a set.
 

bluejayx

Member
It does indeed.

BatB was the only show I wasn't entirely sure on.

The all-Equity rule of Nemo is a huge reason why I haven't auditioned for it. I'm just not too interested in playing by Equity-House rules right now.

Are the Dapper Dans Equity?

all the little street performers are equity.
 

BiggerTigger

Well-Known Member
Tarzan was hurt because the crammed a show that was too big for stage onto a stage. The original concept was for a Theater in the Round (similar to Cirque) where the audience sat around the stage and the aerial acrobatics actually took place above the audience.

They couldn't do it on Broadway, so it was stuffed in a traditional theater. It failed.

(The fact that most of the new songs just weren't that good didn't help. "Who Better Than Me" and "I Want To Know" are the only two that stood out to me.)

But, the production is actually playing in Denmark now, in the round how it's suppose to be, and is doing quite well.

Tarzan on Broadway would have been great if had more to look at than a pea green shoebox for a set.
I have to agree that they should have really worked harder on the stage production of Tarzan. The new songs did not come close to the original movie. It seemed as if Phil just didn't care anymore to write consistant original songs. Also I felt the show went no where, it was a rock concert with acrobats. It could have been so moving and magical. They dropped the ball on that one.

As for the Hunchback theater, I did hear that they had safety problems with the stage and that they would have to completely tear down and rebuild to fix the problems.
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
I have to agree that they should have really worked harder on the stage production of Tarzan. The new songs did not come close to the original movie. It seemed as if Phil just didn't care anymore to write consistant original songs. Also I felt the show went no where, it was a rock concert with acrobats. It could have been so moving and magical. They dropped the ball on that one.

As for the Hunchback theater, I did hear that they had safety problems with the stage and that they would have to completely tear down and rebuild to fix the problems.

Are you referring to the Broadway? I didn't think it was a rock-concert with acrobats as the orchestrations weren't as guitar heavy as Tarzan Rocks at AK was.

I agree, the show had a ton of potential. "I Want To Know" and "You'll Be In My Heart-Reprise" with Kala and Tarzan are perfect examples of what the show COULD have been. The opening scene and "Trashing the Camp" were awe-inspiring. But when Clayton is "defeated" by being escorted offstage by his former lackey and a new song consist of Kerchak and Kala having a conversation over a constant drum-fill and five note meloday ("As Sure As Sun Turns to Moon"), it's obvious several parts of the production staff phoned it in.
 

BiggerTigger

Well-Known Member
Are you referring to the Broadway? I didn't think it was a rock-concert with acrobats as the orchestrations weren't as guitar heavy as Tarzan Rocks at AK was.

I agree, the show had a ton of potential. "I Want To Know" and "You'll Be In My Heart-Reprise" with Kala and Tarzan are perfect examples of what the show COULD have been. The opening scene and "Trashing the Camp" were awe-inspiring. But when Clayton is "defeated" by being escorted offstage by his former lackey and a new song consist of Kerchak and Kala having a conversation over a constant drum-fill and five note meloday ("As Sure As Sun Turns to Moon"), it's obvious several parts of the production staff phoned it in.
I am referring to the broadway show, yes, certain parts of the show really shined, but there were areas when I felt like I was watching Nsync (or what ever boyband were puppets) with the aerial and acrobatics on stage. The vision was awe-inspiring, but then when you try to fell the story, it didn't gel as well from me. I didn't feel the story or the heart except in certain sections. And then there were areas that could have been phenominal, like As sures as Sun Turns to Moon, that felt like the production staff went "we need a song here" and the writing staff threw something together in five minutes. It's an ok song, but could have been so powerful for this scene where you can see the love for Kerchak and Kala and coming to an understanding. "No other way" was another let down.
 

henryt93

Member
the happy ending is not at all true to the book's ending...

Neither are the Little Mermaid (Ariel dies), Sleeping Beauty (lets just say that she has babies with the prince...while still asleep), or Snow White (Snow White is less than 10, and the queen is a cannibal). Disney changes almost all their stories from the source material. It's just the way it works.
 

Chape19714

Well-Known Member
I believe it was Stephen Swartz who said he was working on Hunchback on Broadway during Little Mermaid's premiere.

In the DER GOLCKNER (german stage show) ending, Quazimodo finds himself humbled and he can do nothing. The story ends how it started, with Quazi alone ringing the bells for eternity. And yes, everybody else dies.
 

wickedfan07

Member
I believe it was Stephen Swartz who said he was working on Hunchback on Broadway during Little Mermaid's premiere.

In the DER GOLCKNER (german stage show) ending, Quazimodo finds himself humbled and he can do nothing. The story ends how it started, with Quazi alone ringing the bells for eternity. And yes, everybody else dies.

Well, not every story can have a happy ending. Whatever the ending, I hope it comes to Broadway soon.
 

themarchhare

Well-Known Member
Personally, I'm ready to see the broadway-ready Hercules produced next. It may not be the most popular Disney movie but it sure is good! :)
 

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