HUGE 20K/it's a small world rumor/update

Main Street USA

Well-Known Member
WDWScottieBoy said:
And I understand it's a rumow, which is why I put in the title of this thread that it was a "rumor" to start with. I'm just saying that it could lead to what I was told, no one knows for sure yet as they don't know the damage done inside the building is quite yet. We'll know in a matter of time, that's all!

Ok, ok, fine. You keep being upset. I was actually being nice, but apparently you're good at misreading posts. Try not to be so defensive next time when someone states a viewpoint in which common sense is prevalent.

And what in the world are you talking about damage? If you know anything about the removal of asbestos, then you also know that this building is not coming down. It's as simple as that.

If you want the real truth, you may as well go ahead and consider this rumor dead.
 

Lee

Adventurer
WDWScottieBoy said:
no one knows for sure yet as they don't know the damage done inside the building is quite yet.

Yes...yes they do. :animwink:

Small World's refurb will be completed and the ride will reopen, looking quite good, on schedule.

No offense to you, ScottieBoy, but like Main Street said, someone is pulling your leg. Moving IASW is not only unnecessary, but would be completely cost prohibitave.

Narrow your source down, please. WDI? Attractions CM? Management?
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
NemoRocks78 said:
Then there'd be a huge bottleneck in between it, Dumbo, and Pooh.....
Well then they can just move Pooh over to IASW's crrent spot and replace Peter Pan with Dumbo! Then Peter Pan can be moved over to the Mad Tea Party which would be moved to the current location of Cinderella's Castle. The Castle wold then be moved to Philharmagic which would then be moved to the Haunted Mansion. The Mansion would thenbe moved to the spot of Splash Montain, which then would be moved to Magic Carpets ofAladdin. The carpet would be moved over to Pirates which would move to The Old Tomorrowland Skyway Building which would move to the new Location of the IASW bilding which they wold move back to IASW's old spot. It's that Simple!






Wait, then where would Pooh go? Hmmmm . . . . . :hammer:
 

aimster

Active Member
General Grizz said:
I hope his source isn't Jon! :lol:

;)
Grizz, that's the first thing I thought when I read this thread! :lol:

But man that's just what we need... a longer Small World. The one ride I loathe and despise most of all at ANY theme/amusement park. I hope it stays just this... a rumour.

:: gags and dies ::
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
LOL :) Jon has been "credited" with a lot of "news" so it could be the same, um, person.

I'm sorry, but Scottie you really should look into things just a little before you get upset if someone disagrees with a post. I have never, ever, heard of a building being demolished due to asbestos removal. You go in and get it out -- it's a fire retardant and removable. The only damage done to buildings when removing asbestos is aesthetic. It's not structural, so therefore a new building would not be needed.
 

WDWScottieBoy

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I apologize for anything I did and that I started this. My source is a CM who worked in entertainment and still talks to his best friends who have worked on it recently. He's now in management. But I am sorry I took anyones post the wrong way and caused something that didn't need to be started. If a moderator could please delete this thread I'm sure we could end all of this. And I hope no one has hard feelings towards me as I don't have any towards anyone else.
 

Saintdiz

New Member
this forum should be renamed the rumor squasher.
I've been lurking for about six months now and thought this was a great thread to respond to.
My wife and I were at WDW last week and went on KttK, the tour guide told us a "rumor", That for a while 20k will be a character greeting garden, but it is rumored that FotLK would be brought to the MK and Beastly kingdom or South Africa would be added to AK. BTW, he said the reason it took so long to finally do something to 20K was because it is situated right over the cast entrance to the utiladors.

This entire post is surrounded by asbestos that was removed from IaSW therefore is flameproof.
 

aimster

Active Member
Considering Africa in general is already like half of Animal Kingdom already, that part of the "rumour" doesn't make much sense.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
As unlikely as it may seem, it could have been considered a posibility. The 20k issue can be interpreted as more than just a coincidence (why now after 10 years?)

It would make sense to rebuild IASW in the DLC / DLP location, with a frontage based on these versions (plus Floridas storm cover of course - maybe a smaller canopy like Paris?) As much as they can try to aliveate the traffic problem outside the present IASW, the only proper cure would be to move the entire building back 30ft or so. I do remember in the first news about the IASW rehab there was considersation that the worst case scenario would be removing the buildings roof completley depending on its state and replacing it - quite a major structural engineering job. If this had to happen (and it dosn`t look like it is) then one option MAY have been to rebuild at 20k.

Don`t take it to heart, Scottie - this is just what this forum is for. RUMOUR. Somewhere where like minded people can have constructive chats. I for one think it is/was a possibility.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
WDWScottieBoy said:
I apologize for anything I did and that I started this. My source is a CM who worked in entertainment and still talks to his best friends who have worked on it recently. He's now in management. But I am sorry I took anyones post the wrong way and caused something that didn't need to be started. If a moderator could please delete this thread I'm sure we could end all of this. And I hope no one has hard feelings towards me as I don't have any towards anyone else.


Its okay! That's what these forums are all about, specualting what will happen at Disney. Don't worry, its not like you started a huge flame war or somthing.
 

ral8026

New Member
I think Saintdiz ment South America. We heard something like that to on the tour, but nothing about GotLK going to MK only the meet and greet
 

WDWScottieBoy

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Thanks all for understanding my point of view as just passing one bit of information (a rumor, which is why it's in this thread) as I thought it would be an interesting thing for all to think about. Even if it is not possible now, I'm just stating that it was thought about and the possibility is still there, even if it's only a 1% chance. I'm here to inform, that's all.
 

boo52

Active Member
My motto about rumors I have heard for the past 12 years I have worked at Disney, Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. It would be a nice to see a more elaborate SM though.
 

imagineerfan

New Member
FamilyMan said:
I find that highly unlikely, being that FotLK just got a brand new lighting system...

I've been trying to figure this one out for a while, what does FotLK stand for? I konw I'm gonna feel really dump :brick:

Thanks Dan
 

WDWScottieBoy

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
imagineerfan said:
I've been trying to figure this one out for a while, what does FotLK stand for? I konw I'm gonna feel really dump :brick:

Thanks Dan

Festival of the Lion King (an EXCELLENT show by all means too!)
 

colliera

Member
Another difficulty with asbestos abatement/removal that affects the time this sort of job requires is the containment of the friable fibers. If you've ever been in a building where this sort of thing was done you know it isn't just a matter of tearing it out, ripping it down, or removing the infused material. A containment field of poly sheeting has to be established, a wetting procedure has to be done and checked, and recovery of the debris and it's safe disposal must be accomplished. All the while monitoring of the atmosphere is done to check levels of release. Unless there is a release of fiber problem ongoing the usual recomendation is to leave it alone. If asbestos is part of the reason for closure then taking down the building isn't usually the goal. However, there's several times the amount of room needed if a relocation of IASW were planned.

(Pure speculation follows). The question about what utimately will replace 20K in the long term doesn't preclude repositioning IASW. Perhaps even a change of the point of entrance of IASW to behind Pinocchio Village Haus and elimating the load/unload area cover relieving the congestion point between IASW and Peter Pan. This would face the new entrance toward the vast area formerly the 20K lagoon and show building. If you move North across the access road to the Utilidors (by jumping the road much like is done with PoC and SM and the railroad track), you can double again the available area. With as much area as is available I can't help but thinking the question isn't what attraction will replace 20K in the long term but what land will occupy this area. Shadowland/Journey to Atlantis/Harry Potter anyone? :sohappy:
 

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