How would YOU fix DCA?

[Californian Elitist]

What actual value would desecrating Cars Land have? Removing the flat rides (which are great) and detheming the incredibly well-done land as a whole would the do nothing but diminish the park. Cars Land is one of the best lands in the world, and his suggestion is to basically gut it.

You do realize the original plan was Car Land and was very close to what David came up with? Disney had the plans for it before Lassiter suggested IP-ing it. And I argue it likely would have been much better than Cars Land.

Cars Land is great, but I would support changing it and removing the IP.

 

[Californian Elitist]

The Pixar layover for the Pier is garbage. Removing it would be a step up, depending on what replaced it.

World of Color is a very basic show. Removing it wouldn’t be a big deal. They can do better.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

I'd like to see some type of boat ride at the Pier. If it's possible to do safely, having a "Shoot the Chute" type drop that goes into Paradise Bay would be awesome while fitting the (semi?) Victorian theme.

 

[J4546]

if they relocated the massive backstage building between cars land and pixar pier, they could maybe make a boat flume stlye ride that goes into the pier perhaps with a lot of work

 

[Brer Panther]

If we were to replace Monsters Inc, I think a Muppets dark ride would be the best opinion.

 

[Nirya]

if they relocated the massive backstage building between cars land and pixar pier, they could maybe make a boat flume stlye ride that goes into the pier perhaps with a lot of work

I've thought about this, and you could maybe do some type of chute ride utilizing an elevator lift to get the boats up to a second level, then move them through some show scenes on the second levels of various buildings (maybe some kind of cannery theme, idk) before having a drop into the water.

The problems are where you would do the drop. You can't really do it anywhere in the bay without screwing with either sightlines or Incredicoaster. The other option, which would do the drop into the water area between Pacific Wharf and the spine, would have issues, the biggest one being that area is where they store the water for Grizzly/the Bay during maintenance, so they'd need to think of a fix for that.

I also don't think this is necessarily the best use of resources? But I guess if we're just Blue Sky'ing the hell out of this then it'd work.

 

[Riviera Rita]

I must be the only person who likes CA as it was on my last trip in 2019. The only thing I'd change is Soarin' return it to Soarin' Over California.

 

[Phroobar]

"Shoot the Chute" rides are pretty much dying out. Knotts and MM got rid of theirs long ago. There is no reason for a ride that's main purpose is to get you wet. At least Jurassic World has lots of theming and show scenes.

 

[DavidDL]

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World of Color is a very basic show. Removing it wouldn’t be a big deal. They can do better.

World of Color is at the point where it’s become so bastardized over the years that removing it would actually be a net win for the park.

Just like the park it lives in, it has no longer has a cohesive theme and its fountains spend most of their time either above water during the day, making the lagoon look awful or below it, dirtying the water to a dull brown.

In its current form though, maybe I’m wrong and maybe it is a perfect fit for the park. Because just like the show, the park has become nothing more than a hodgepodge of random IP scenes without any overarching narrative.

In other words; just like the park it lives in is awful, the current version of the show is awful.

 

[DavidDL]

… Bringing RNRC, a mediocre launching looping coaster, to a park with an existing mediocre launching looping coaster is not what the park needs. …

Man, you’re right. Bringing Web-Slingers, a mediocre 3D target game, to a park with an existing properly placed and themed 3D target game is a much better look for DCA.

Not every park needs to be Disneyland or Magic Kingdom. Dark/family rides are great and my Blue Sky ideas have clearly implemented options for families elsewhere in their design but why does DCA need so many that it starts to become “Disneyland 2”? I don’t think DCA should be trying to be like Disneyland in this regard because for folks who want that, there’s Disneyland a few steps away.

Lack of proper identity is a problem I fear the individual parks are starting to have. Places like DCA, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, etc. are all starting to show signs of being thought of as “Disneyland 2” or “Magic Kingdoms 2 and 3”. If you want DCA’s demographic offerings to so desperately match those of Disneyland’s, you may as well be advocating for merging the two parks into one.

-and for the record, removing a handful of terrible “off the shelf” carnival rides from Paradise Garden Park and replacing them with some kind of Mexican village area featuring a Coco attraction, Mexican restaurant, cultural exhibits, etc. is not “blowing an area up for the sake of it”. It quite literally would be a celebration of the rather large Hispanic population of California (38%, and the largest total number of any US state), fulfilling current managements desire for IP push and be in line with the mission statement of DCA featured at the front of the park.

Which states that the park is supposed to be a celebration of the state and the people who live there. This is the identity that Disney is claiming DCA is supposed to have.

But sure, go off about how replacing Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree or Jumpin’ Jellyfish would make the park un-visitable. You have your opinions and I have mine.

 

[J4546]

I think DCA is a good park, doesnt need "fixing" imo.

 

[Californian Elitist]

The best bet would be to bulldoze everything and start over.

 

[SplashJacket]

You do realize the original plan was Car Land and was very close to what David came up with? Disney had the plans for it before Lassiter suggested IP-ing it. And I argue it likely would have been much better than Cars Land.

Cars Land is great, but I would support changing it and removing the IP.

I’m very aware, but I’d argue this is a situation where the IP greatly enhances what’s there.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I'd be ok with them replacing World of Color. For me, it's less the show itself that's the problem and more the ordeal and time commitment that goes into seeing it that drags down the whole enterprise. Since I don't anticipate Disney would make the viewing experience better or easier if they were to replace a show, I suppose I don't much care if the show stays or is replaced by something else.

While I didn't see it live, I actually thought that the concept of HarmoniUS could provide a template to do a net upgrade of World of Color, assuming they could do it without those massive, ugly barges.

I don't love Cars, the Disney franchise, but Cars Land is fine and not a place I would mess with.

To whoever expressed concerns about the siteline issues that would result from building a big indoor boat ride by Incredicoaster...while that's valid, sitelines are already pretty bad over there and I can't imagine the boat ride show building would make it significantly worse.

Pixar Pier is dumb and it was much better before. As much as building a boardwalk area at a Disney theme park was dumb, if we MUST have it, I'd prefer it the way it was before where it was vaguely classy rather than the garish IP hodgepodge it is now. If there was any one single change at the park that I'd instantly walk back, that'd probably be it.

 

[DavidDL]

… Pixar Pier is dumb and it was much better before. As much as building a boardwalk area at a Disney theme park was dumb, if we MUST have it, I'd prefer it the way it was before where it was vaguely classy rather than the garish IP hodgepodge it is now. If there was any one single change at the park that I'd instantly walk back, that'd probably be it.

Absolutely. In fact, the only reason something like the former California Screamin’ is a mediocre coaster, is because the Pixar Pier overlay turned it into one.

Disney traded a perfectly serviceable, fun coaster with a killer soundtrack that wasn’t trying to pretend to be anything other than what it was.. for an incredibly forced storyline, babies on sticks and some of the most obnoxious audio my ears have ever heard in a theme park.

The idea that the removal of the Pixar Pier elements would be a “mistake”, while also trying to claim that Incredicoaster is a “mediocre” experience are statements at odds with themselves.

Admittedly, Incedicoaster is mediocre. -and it’s because it became the Incredicoaster. I’m with Violet on this one:

“Sure, slap our names on an old ride. *eyeroll*”

 

[PiratesMansion]

Absolutely. In fact, the only reason something like the former California Screamin’ is a mediocre coaster, is because the Pixar Pier overlay turned it into one.

Disney traded a perfectly serviceable, fun coaster with a killer soundtrack that wasn’t trying to pretend to be anything other than what it was.. for an incredibly forced storyline, babies on sticks and some of the most obnoxious audio my ears have ever heard in a theme park.

The idea that the removal of the Pixar Pier elements would be a “mistake”, while also trying to claim that Incredicoaster is a “mediocre” experience are statements at odds with themselves.

Admittedly, Incedicoaster is mediocre. -and it’s because it became the Incredicoaster. I’m with Violet on this one:

“Sure, slap our names on an old ride. *eyeroll*”

Well, I'll be so bold as to say that I never loved the ride in any incarnation, and it never did much for me even as Screamin'. So I actually would be ok with a RNRC in the park even though I know that there's a 0% chance that attraction is ever built again.

But man was Screamin' better before a child was yammering in my ear during part of the ride!

 

[DavidDL]

Well, I'll be so bold as to say that I never loved the ride in any incarnation, and it never did much for me even as Screamin'. …

-and you know what? Even though I have a differing opinion than you on this bit, specifically, I respect your stance on it and I even respect the majority of other folks here who think the park is fine the way it is now.

I only take issue with folks who come along and try to be rude to those of us sharing differing opinions of the park in a thread that is literally asking us how we would like to see it changed.

Whether someone loves the current direction of DCA or wants it changed is all good with me. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter since it’s all just talk about a theme park we have no control over. Just don’t be a jerk about it and not expect to be pushed back (not you, obviously).

 

[Phroobar]

DCA to me was supposed to be the sophisticated adult oriented park similar to Epcot. It wasn't ment to have cartoon characters everywhere. It was a place where adults could go on more mature experiences. That failed because Disney can't market to adults. Disney needs to rethink that strategy. Adults don't only want to drink and eat expensive food.

 

[josh2000]

DCA hate is so overblown sometimes. It has problems and things that could be improved but people here are honestly saying Disney needs to bulldoze the entire park and start over. DCA is a lot better than Hollywood Studios, do people here think Disney should bulldoze that park too?

 

[Suspirian]

DCA hate is so overblown sometimes. It has problems and things that could be improved but people here are honestly saying Disney needs to bulldoze the entire park and start over. DCA is a lot better than Hollywood Studios, do people here think Disney should bulldoze that park too?

I do think that even with all the stuff added post 2017 DCA is still an enjoyable park.