FettFan
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1. I don't get paranoid.
2. That was actually the second thing to come to mind, but I couldnt think of any good Schwarzenegger jokes.
"Blow off some steam", perhaps?
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How to Un-Commando the Disney Vacation?
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1. I don't get paranoid.
2. That was actually the second thing to come to mind, but I couldnt think of any good Schwarzenegger jokes.
"Blow off some steam", perhaps?
That line makes me laugh. Really ridiculous. I love it. When are we going to have another similar action star? I get paranoid all the time. Wish I didn't. Well, I'm off to wrap the house in tinfoil.
lazyboy97o
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Just on a very general level that is simply not true. Situations always influence our behavior.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Correct - the difference is only if you can see it for what it is. It's not 'bad' to be influenced.. often we use it for our advantage.. but to deny it's existence.. well.. I won't say anything more about it.
MYW is the biggest flag of them all... ensuring people buy park tickets for every day of the trip.. and influencing the length of their trips.
Sweet Melissa
Well-Known Member
Interesting thoughts, especially this:
Currently, we're averaging about once a year, but we moved to one of those horrible flyover states last year and flights from the Middle of Nowhere are pricey. I don't think we'll keep up our one-annually park touring schedule after the next couple years. That said, even though we only go to WDW once a year now, we still have a "there's always next time" mentality. We have days where we park hop and see only a couple attractions or even NO rides at all. We're happy to just walk around, escape everyday life, see the sights and enjoy the atmosphere.
Come to think of it, we probably should be going on more non-Disney vacations for as much as we accomplish while there.
Currently, we're averaging about once a year, but we moved to one of those horrible flyover states last year and flights from the Middle of Nowhere are pricey. I don't think we'll keep up our one-annually park touring schedule after the next couple years. That said, even though we only go to WDW once a year now, we still have a "there's always next time" mentality. We have days where we park hop and see only a couple attractions or even NO rides at all. We're happy to just walk around, escape everyday life, see the sights and enjoy the atmosphere.
Come to think of it, we probably should be going on more non-Disney vacations for as much as we accomplish while there.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Instead of people having to think about "next time" what they experience between the big stuff should be so fulfilling that it does not matter if something was missed. Quality over quantity.
Prince-1
Well-Known Member
So no Jedi mind trick going on. I really don't think Disney is subconciously affecting people's decision to stay in the park any later than already planed. The people that get their at the rope drop and stay all day already know that's the plan.
We have been to WDW so many times that we normally get up when we want, go a park for a few hours and then head back to our resort and relax at the pool for a couple of hours and then head back to another park at night. This way we do what we want and get time to rela and take it easy.
WannaBWendy
Well-Known Member
I think the ADR's have really taken the stroll out of our Disney trip. Time before last, I didn't make any ADR's and we ended up sitting forever waiting on a table and were starving and grumpy by the time we got food. Last time, I made ADR's for all of our table service meals and it was a sprint sometimes to get there on time. Where is the balance? I remember in the past making them a day or two ahead. Now, it's weeks ahead of time and scheduled.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Sure - but how did they get to that plan in the first place? Do they stay open to close everywhere? Or are they motivated at Disney because of other factors?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Influencing behavior need not be anything extraordinary nor is being influenced a negative. Knowing a certain restaurant is always being booked 180 days out would influence the behavior of somebody who only decides to go at the last minute. Not even considering that location because you know it is booked means there has been an influence. Deciding not to do a ride because you think the wait is too long means you've been influenced. Pricing structure is most definitely an influence.
epcotisbest
Well-Known Member
Yes it was good...it is better now.
habe20
Member
Some people I think feel like they need to do every little thing on their trip (and that's impossible so why bother) so they rush through everything and miss all the little details. I understand if it's a once in a lifetime trip you have to rush and do everything you can. But if you know you're going back why bother being all crazy and missing out, If you don't get to it this trip do it on your next one.
FettFan
Well-Known Member
$10 per person ADR cancellation fees don't bother me. In fact, I applaud them and here's why....guests were being completely indecisive when it came to eating locations.
They would have a group of four or more, but not have the foresight to plan ahead about what or where they wanted to eat....and as a result, they were making reservations for multiple restaurants, figuring that once they decided on one, they could either cancel at the last minute or simply not show for the others.
Disney would have to turn other guests trying to make reservations down because they were working under the impression that all their tables would be filled for a particular timeslot.
So yes, while the cancellation fee is an inconvenience for anyone who has a legitimate issue....you can thank the bad apple guests for spoiling the basket for everyone else.
Britt
Well-Known Member
$10, per person is totally excessive for it. I get it, I do. But it gives the impression of constantly clock watching, making sure something doesn't happen or you're charged $10 per person.
FettFan
Well-Known Member
I don't think so, given that the cheapest items on the typical dine-in restaurant are about $15. It's lost revenue for the restaurant twice-over....the cancel/no-shows plus the folks who genuinely were going to show but couldn't get a reservation because of the piggish guests.
WDW 3
Well-Known Member
This^^^ We have such a good time just seeing what the day brings.
All Disney All The Time
Well-Known Member
If you can plan your dining reservation months in advance then you can darn well "plan" to show up.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Increasing, the little "details" that are being missed are repetitive, self-referential nonsense. The numbers on a crate being some Imagineer's birthday does not drive the story that is being experience. Nor does using the name of some obscure cartoon character or a dead Imagineer.
jlsHouston
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I think you always have outside influences on choices you make. However I have to agree ultimately you make the choice of how you vacation regardless of the influences. Disney certainly packages their products/experiences in such a manner to appeal to a spectrum of people..young or old...male or female...financially affluent or the ranges of middle class..and even more categories. My DD would probably commando style the parks regardless...that is just her personality..more is better.. I like to chill a bit, can't stand waiting, hate time schedules and FP is has been predominately useless for me but ADRs kind of work. I like that I can plan the crap out of my WDW vacation with park days and ressies and still fly by the seat of my pants once I get to the world by cancelling 24 or 48 hours prior and I am good with all that..An analogy about influences of marketing versus personal choices would be something like visiting the spa. Disney offers a 10% discount in the MYWP for a spa service. I have used it. But I am going to the spa regardless of a discount. Just like discounts created to get people to purchase multiple park days therefore stay longer, and DDP. People may stay longer days because of the discounts. Or they may not if they can't get the time off work or even with discounts 5 days is the vacation budget. IMO if Disney is guilty of causing the commando style of vacationing it is more because WDW is so vast and there is so much to see and do and it can be a bit difficult to not want to "miss" something...
Prince-1
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Sorry, i think you are seeing something that just isn't there. Most people save their money for a long time to be able to afford to come to Disney and they don't want to waste any of their time sitting by the pool or taking a nap. They simply want to maximize their dollar by staying at the parks for as much time as possible. Someone like me who goes 5-6 times a year doesn't have to do that and I get the chance to structure my vacation to the way that I want to.